How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by CatharticF » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:42:14


Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the WCC
and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

Nice work Lewis "I love my team" Hamilton. :-p

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How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Simon say » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:27:10


Quote:
> Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the WCC
> and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

> Nice work Fred "I love my team" Alonso. :-p

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> CatharticF1

> McLaren - The distant sound of Bruce turning in his grave.

fixed it for you

 
 
 

How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Ian Rawling » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:31:32


Quote:
> Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the WCC
> and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

> Nice work Lewis "I love my team" Hamilton. :-p

Given the cost of Fernando "I blackmail my team with my own crimes"
Alonso, Hamilton is worth every penny!  He even came second in the WDC
compared to Alonso who could only blackmail and bully his way to 3rd..

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How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by a_Fran » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:38:36

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:31:32 +0100, Ian Rawlings

Quote:


>> Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the WCC
>> and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

>> Nice work Lewis "I love my team" Hamilton. :-p

>Given the cost of Fernando "I blackmail my team with my own crimes"
>Alonso, Hamilton is worth every penny!  He even came second in the WDC
>compared to Alonso who could only blackmail and bully his way to 3rd..

Alonso has the second most points !

I'll get my coat..

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How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Bigbir » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:48:39

Quote:

> Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the
> WCC and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

> Nice work Fred "Give me number one status or I'll tell how I cheated"

Alonso. :-p

Of course you knew that.

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How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by AC » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:15:49


Quote:
> Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the WCC
> and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

> Nice work Lewis "I love my team" Hamilton. :-p

> --

A lot less than Alonso.

He cost more to start with
Failed more on the track
Provided the 'evidence' for the $gazillion fine, despite being up to hin
neck in it.

Sorry, thats a***poor way to slag off LH. Try again

AC

 
 
 

How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Dr Hfuhruhur » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:50:43


Quote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:31:32 +0100, Ian Rawlings



> >> Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the WCC
> >> and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

> >> Nice work Lewis "I love my team" Hamilton. :-p

> >Given the cost of Fernando "I blackmail my team with my own crimes"
> >Alonso, Hamilton is worth every penny!  He even came second in the WDC
> >compared to Alonso who could only blackmail and bully his way to 3rd..

> Alonso has the second most points !

Don't even think about it.

Quote:
> I'll get my coat..

LOL

Doc

Quote:
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> Regards, Frank

 
 
 

How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Ian Rawling » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:05:10


Quote:
> Alonso has the second most points !

> I'll get my coat..

Don't worry, I've chucked it outside ready for you ;-)

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How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Brian Lawrenc » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:44:23

Quote:

> Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the WCC
> and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

I guess this was a rhetorical question anyway, but I'll have a stab at
answering it.

The pool of money that FOM pays to the teams is split into two halves. 50%
is paid to the teams based on their historical performance. This half
doesn't consider performances in 2007 so McLaren would have received the
full amount that they were entitled to, regardless of where they finished
in 2007.

The other 50% is divided between the teams based on their performances in
the previous championship. About four years ago Ron Dennis said that the
actual amounts were quite small and that the team finishing first gets
double the amount of the team finishing last. He quoted figures of $22m
and $11m (he said these were round figures). He also said that the
increments between positions were relatively even. That can be easily
calculated to a difference between each finishing position of about
$1.2m.

We can guess that the pool has increased in size since 2003, so lets
add 10%. We also need to consider that the number of teams is now 11
so the individual payments will be reduced. Without doing lots of
speculative math I'd guestimate that the difference between finishing
first and finishing second would still be between one and one and a
half million USD.

In F1 terms that's nothing, and if they wanted to apportion blame
equally between Hamilton, Alonso and the team, it would be less
that $0.5m each.

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How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Bob Duber » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:29:57


Quote:
> Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in the WCC
> and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

Makes no difference.

The penalty was 100 million dollars. Made up of the FOCA money that
McLaren would have got as a result of their position in the WCC and
then a payment of the difference between $100 meg and the FOCA money.

Any way you cut the cake the nett damage to McLaren is 100 million
dollars.

 
 
 

How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Bigbir » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:40:09

Quote:


> > Those points he lost his team in Hungary cost them first place in
> > the WCC and so mean a bigger penalty from the FIA.

> Makes no difference.

> The penalty was 100 million dollars. Made up of the FOCA money that
> McLaren would have got as a result of their position in the WCC and
> then a payment of the difference between $100 meg and the FOCA money.

> Any way you cut the cake the nett damage to McLaren is 100 million
> dollars.

Of course it makes a difference.  Less income is less income even if it
was going straight to the FIA coffers. They now have to write a bigger
cheque.

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How much money did Lewis Hamilton cost McLaren?

Post by Brian Lawrenc » Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:42:25

I probably should have mentioned that the distribution is governed
by the Concorde Agreement.

You can download a copy of the 1997 version from:

   http://www.concordeagreement.com/FullConcorde.pdf

104 pp.

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