Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by David G Fishe » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 05:00:06


Three times in a row. 3 thenths this time. A second last time. Half  a
second the race before.

Isn't even close anymore.

I thought he was "the king of qualifying".

I thought he was the "fastest man over one lap in F1".

<snicker>

David Michael Ralf Schumacher Fisher

 
 
 

Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by wssenterpri.. » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 07:35:39


Quote:
> Three times in a row. 3 thenths this time. A second last time. Half  a
> second the race before.

> Isn't even close anymore.

> I thought he was "the king of qualifying".

> I thought he was the "fastest man over one lap in F1".

> <snicker>

> David Michael Ralf Schumacher Fisher

Can you say "One trick pony" ?

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Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by David G Fishe » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 07:58:19


Quote:

> > Three times in a row. 3 thenths this time. A second last time. Half  a
> > second the race before.

> > Isn't even close anymore.

> > I thought he was "the king of qualifying".

> > I thought he was the "fastest man over one lap in F1".

> > <snicker>

> > David Michael Ralf Schumacher Fisher

> Can you say "One trick pony" ?

> --
> Cheers
> Wayne "Dark 1" Stuart

> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wssenterprises/

Since there were a bunch of RS bashers long ago when JPM had his fleeting
moment of q success, I'm just returning the favor.

Besides, there's about two dozen dumb ass guys and gals here who do just
about NOTHING but bash the 5 time WDC Michael Schumacher every chance they
get.

Talk about one trick ponies!

David Michael Ralf Schumacher Fisher

 
 
 

Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by And » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 09:26:15

On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 22:58:19 GMT, "David G Fisher"

Quote:

>Since there were a bunch of RS bashers long ago when JPM had his fleeting
>moment of q success, I'm just returning the favor.

>Besides, there's about two dozen dumb ass guys and gals here who do just
>about NOTHING but bash the 5 time WDC Michael Schumacher every chance they
>get.

>Talk about one trick ponies!

>David Michael Ralf Schumacher Fisher

*yawn*

smells like a pot and a kettle.

so how are you different from them, tiger?

 
 
 

Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by Peter Fisl » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 09:25:14

Quote:


> > Three times in a row. 3 thenths this time. A second last time. Half  a
> > second the race before.

> > Isn't even close anymore.

> > I thought he was "the king of qualifying".

> > I thought he was the "fastest man over one lap in F1".

> > <snicker>

> > David Michael Ralf Schumacher Fisher

> Can you say "One trick pony" ?

> --
> Cheers
> Wayne "Dark 1" Stuart

> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wssenterprises/

I remember the time (was it 97 ?) when one of the British comemntators
used to refer to Ralf as the grasscutter, that used to make me laugh...

I think Ralph is pretty solid though I don't know if he is ever going to be
a champion...perhaps...

Peter

 
 
 

Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by CatharticF » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 12:36:21



Quote:
> Three times in a row. 3 thenths this time. A second last time. Half  a
> second the race before.

> Isn't even close anymore.

> I thought he was "the king of qualifying".

> I thought he was the "fastest man over one lap in F1".

> <snicker>

What's more it was at Spa. I must confess to having the feeling before
Hockenheim that JPM was gaining the upper hand. This certainly must cloud
the picture of those crystal ball gazers who see JPM as potentially
supremely *** - good as he undoubtedly is. Ralf on form seems to be
more than a match recently over three very different circuits, as long as
his motivation holds.

--
CatharticF1
Brisbane, Australia

The trouble with probability is that it's only right most of the time.

 
 
 

Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by Matt G Pop » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:17:34



Quote:


>> Three times in a row. 3 thenths this time. A second last time. Half
>> a second the race before.

>> Isn't even close anymore.

>> I thought he was "the king of qualifying".

>> I thought he was the "fastest man over one lap in F1".

>> <snicker>

> What's more it was at Spa. I must confess to having the feeling before
> Hockenheim that JPM was gaining the upper hand. This certainly must
> cloud the picture of those crystal ball gazers who see JPM as
> potentially supremely *** - good as he undoubtedly is. Ralf on
> form seems to be more than a match recently over three very different
> circuits, as long as his motivation holds.

He might yet become extremely ***. Let's not forget, it was only at
the end of his THIRD full season of Formula One that Schumi won the world
championship. He was a consistent challenger to the Williams cars, but
never actually achieved consistent race winning ability til '94.

And the sort of *** we've seen the last few years, I believe, 10
years down the track that he could also show that sort of ***.

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Matt Pope

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Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by Steve Campbel » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 15:45:34

Quote:

> He might yet become extremely ***. Let's not forget, it was only at
> the end of his THIRD full season of Formula One that Schumi won the world
> championship.

And it was about the end of Ralf's 3rd when he managed to actually finnish
most of his races :)

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Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by young » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 18:38:34



Quote:
>What's more it was at Spa. I must confess to having the feeling before
>Hockenheim that JPM was gaining the upper hand. This certainly must cloud
>the picture of those crystal ball gazers who see JPM as potentially
>supremely *** - good as he undoubtedly is. Ralf on form seems to be
>more than a match recently over three very different circuits, as long as
>his motivation holds.

Seems to me that Montoya has under-performed compared to expectations
since Magny-Cour where MS won the championship. Maybe his mind is on
next year or something different to the job at hand. Unfortunate, but
he has shown brilliance often enough for us to believe there is
enormous potential in the future if Williams can create a good enough
car. Here's hoping they are a little more radical and risk-taking for
the FW25.

Youngy
Montoya/Williams 2003 WDC

 
 
 

Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by CatharticF » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 19:37:46



Quote:


> >What's more it was at Spa. I must confess to having the feeling before
> >Hockenheim that JPM was gaining the upper hand. This certainly must cloud
> >the picture of those crystal ball gazers who see JPM as potentially
> >supremely *** - good as he undoubtedly is. Ralf on form seems to be
> >more than a match recently over three very different circuits, as long as
> >his motivation holds.

> Seems to me that Montoya has under-performed compared to expectations
> since Magny-Cour where MS won the championship. Maybe his mind is on
> next year or something different to the job at hand. Unfortunate, but
> he has shown brilliance often enough for us to believe there is
> enormous potential in the future if Williams can create a good enough
> car. Here's hoping they are a little more radical and risk-taking for
> the FW25.

Yeah, the relative performance turnaround between them is quite bizarre.
It's as if only one Williams driver can be 'on' it. I do think Ralf has
improved and is driving much better. His closeness to the Ferraris in
Hockenheim and Hungary (particularly in qualifying) was impressive. But
at the same time JPM seems for whatever reason not to be driving at his
best. Maybe his personal life is too good atm! Any ideas?

--
CatharticF1
Brisbane, Australia

The trouble with probability is that it's only right most of the time.

 
 
 

Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by wssenterpri.. » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 20:15:32

Quote:

> I remember the time (was it 97 ?) when one of the British comemntators
> used to refer to Ralf as the grasscutter, that used to make me laugh...

> I think Ralph is pretty solid though I don't know if he is ever going to be
> a champion...perhaps...

No he won't.  And you can quote me on that! ;-)

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Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by Frank or is it Jackie » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 20:42:41



Quote:
>> I thought he was "the king of qualifying".

>> I thought he was the "fastest man over one lap in F1".

>> <snicker>

>What's more it was at Spa. I must confess to having the feeling before
>Hockenheim that JPM was gaining the upper hand. This certainly must cloud
>the picture of those crystal ball gazers who see JPM as potentially
>supremely *** - good as he undoubtedly is. Ralf on form seems to be
>more than a match recently over three very different circuits, as long as
>his motivation holds.

Now if i was a cynical person, i could say that seeing that someone
has the championship all sewn up, said someone could give a few hints
to little brother on car set up.  Luckily i'm not that way. :)  

JPM outdone Ralf in overall qualifying this year (i think), in any
case there is not much between them. The thing that pised me off about
Ralf was that just as i started to like him, he promptly lost the
plot. he seems to be getting it back again though.

Another thing about Spa in partiular that qualifying is of little
interest. Long race, long straight, plenty of overtaking
possibilities.
Um...given that,  i now retract, we know someone who can not overtake
a limping dog, so for that person qualifyng would be do or die stuff.
;-)

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Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by Frank or is it Jackie » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 20:47:18



Quote:
>Yeah, the relative performance turnaround between them is quite bizarre.
>It's as if only one Williams driver can be 'on' it. I do think Ralf has
>improved and is driving much better. His closeness to the Ferraris in
>Hockenheim and Hungary (particularly in qualifying) was impressive. But
>at the same time JPM seems for whatever reason not to be driving at his
>best. Maybe his personal life is too good atm! Any ideas?

Of course we can't discount the possibility that they are testing some
new things for next year. That may even explain JPM's problems arly
on, then Ralf dropping off, then JPM dropping off again.. is there
some pattern there ?
After all they knew from race one that the year is hosed.

ps: Next i'll introduce my UFO *** of Wiliams drivers theory. :)

--
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Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by wssenterpri.. » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 21:57:05


Quote:
> Now if i was a cynical person, i could say that seeing that someone
> has the championship all sewn up, said someone could give a few hints
> to little brother on car set up.  Luckily i'm not that way. :)  

> JPM outdone Ralf in overall qualifying this year (i think), in any
> case there is not much between them. The thing that pised me off about
> Ralf was that just as i started to like him, he promptly lost the
> plot. he seems to be getting it back again though.

I don't have figures to back up this (Mr Lawrence?), but I believe that
as of this race, head to head, JPM & RS are equal, but in terms of
overall time difference, I think RS is ahead.  It seems mostly if JPM is
ahead, it's not usually by much, but when JPM has an off day, he has a
stinker of an off day, and will be big chunks of time down, like in
Hungary.  So overall, I think RS has the nod ATM.

Geez, I'm not sounding too much like Mr Fisher am I?  I don't think I
could take that sort of slur! ;-)

Quote:
> Another thing about Spa in partiular that qualifying is of little
> interest. Long race, long straight, plenty of overtaking
> possibilities.
> Um...given that,  i now retract, we know someone who can not overtake
> a limping dog, so for that person qualifyng would be do or die stuff.
> ;-)

You trying to stir up trouble? :-)

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Did Ralf Outqualify JPM......Again?

Post by Frank or is it Jackie » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 00:19:18



Quote:
>> JPM outdone Ralf in overall qualifying this year (i think), in any
>> case there is not much between them. The thing that pised me off about
>> Ralf was that just as i started to like him, he promptly lost the
>> plot. he seems to be getting it back again though.

>I don't have figures to back up this (Mr Lawrence?), but I believe that
>as of this race, head to head, JPM & RS are equal, but in terms of
>overall time difference, I think RS is ahead.  It seems mostly if JPM is
>ahead, it's not usually by much, but when JPM has an off day, he has a
>stinker of an off day, and will be big chunks of time down, like in
>Hungary.  So overall, I think RS has the nod ATM.

Don't know, to me it seems like Ralf is behind, but without specifics
i'm only guessing too. Also JPM seems to get much more air time, so
his name is always around, that might also add to the confusion.

Quote:
>Geez, I'm not sounding too much like Mr Fisher am I?  I don't think I
>could take that sort of slur! ;-)

Not at all. To qualify for that, you'd have to mention that JPM sucks
and shouldn't be allowed to drive in a nail, let alone an F1 car.  ;-)

Quote:
>> Um...given that,  i now retract, we know someone who can not overtake
>> a limping dog, so for that person qualifyng would be do or die stuff.
>> ;-)

>You trying to stir up trouble? :-)

Would i do that ? <innocentest of looks>
AMOF i have to retract again. Once Trully parked it, Ralf simply
rocketed past him.  ;-)

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Regards, Frank