FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by Sardev Sing » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Great Race at Spain!! One of the best so far - Well Done
Schumacher!! Really bad conditions though.......

But why was Damon SO bad??? I really think he is a bad driver in very wet
conditions - he seems okay if he is in front on a slightly wet track -
but put him behind another car in raining conditions and you get what you
saw in Spain - way to go Damon!!! (for a British driver they should be
used to the bad conditions it practically rains non-stop here in the
UK!! Maybe more practice is required!)

Was it just me or was Alesi going slowly for him?? He normally excels in
wet conditions .... maybe Briatore told him to calm down and keep it neat
and on the track!!  

Anyway hope this means that the GP's from now on will be more competitive
- i have the feeling that had this been a dry race the Williams would
have won!!

SS

 
 
 

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by Mark Holcrof » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Great Race at Spain!! One of the best so far - Well Done
> Schumacher!! Really bad conditions though.......Booooring!  I'm beginning to see the sense in not racing in the

rain, like Indycars.  Well, perhaps....

Quote:
> But why was Damon SO bad??? I really think he is a bad driver in veryCompared to what?  Schumacher, king of Monaco?
> wet conditions - he seems okay if he is in front on a slightly wet
> track - but put him behind another car in raining conditions and you
> get what you saw in Spain - way to go Damon!!! (for a British driver
> they should be used to the bad conditions it practically rains
> non-stop here in the UK!! Maybe more practice is required!)On that point, ask the opinion of Yorkshire Water

Mark

 
 
 

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by Mark Holcrof » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Great Race at Spain!! One of the best so far - Well Done
> Schumacher!! Really bad conditions though.......

Booooring!  I'm beginning to see the sense in not racing in the
rain, like Indycars.  Well, perhaps....

Quote:
> But why was Damon SO bad??? I really think he is a bad driver in very

Compared to what?  Schumacher, king of Monaco?

Quote:
> wet conditions - he seems okay if he is in front on a slightly wet
> track - but put him behind another car in raining conditions and you
> get what you saw in Spain - way to go Damon!!! (for a British driver
> they should be used to the bad conditions it practically rains
> non-stop here in the UK!! Maybe more practice is required!)

On that point, ask the opinion of Yorkshire Water

Mark  (reposting due to damned editor!)

 
 
 

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by Scott Wills » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Booooring!  I'm beginning to see the sense in not racing in the
>rain, like Indycars.  Well, perhaps....

I see from your email address that you are in the uk and therefore I can perhaps
understand your ignorance, but I would like to dispel the myth that Indycars do
not race in the rain.  Listen carefully:

THE ONLY TIME INDYCARS DO NOT RACE IN THE RAIN IS ON OVALS!!  OVALS CONSTITUTE
ONLY A PORTION OF THE TRACKS THAT ARE RACED ON DURING AN INDYCAR SEASON!!
HENCE, INDYCAR DRIVERS TYPICALLY GET PLENTY OF CHANCES TO RACE IN THE RAIN!!!!
IF THEY DON'T, IT'S DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCE AND LUCK!!!

Only on the ovals do they not race in the rain, as it would be incredibly stupid
to do so.

I stood in the rain watching the cars race by complete with huge roosertails at
Portland in '93.  Please don't tell me they don't race in the rain...

Scott


  that's MR scottie to you!!!!!

 
 
 

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by Doug Fle » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
>Booooring!  I'm beginning to see the sense in not racing in the
>rain, like Indycars.  Well, perhaps....

One more time, Indycars DO race in the rain on street circuits. They
DO NOT race in the rain on ovals.

NOTE: This is NOT an attempt at a CART vs. F1 feud, just wanted to help
clear-up a point. :)

DJF
Montreal

 
 
 

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by Richard Humberston » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Great Race at Spain!! One of the best so far - Well Done
>Schumacher!! Really bad conditions though.......

>But why was Damon SO bad??? I really think he is a bad driver in very wet
>conditions - he seems okay if he is in front on a slightly wet track -
>but put him behind another car in raining conditions and you get what you
>saw in Spain - way to go Damon!!! (for a British driver they should be
>used to the bad conditions it practically rains non-stop here in the
>UK!! Maybe more practice is required!)

According to tonight's Evening Standard newspaper, Williams have
admitted that it was their fault:
"We screwed it up, big-time. Nothing was changed on Jacques Lilleneuve's
car after the warm-up - but we changed the settings on Damon's on the
grid. It was a mistake. It made the car much too lively and Damon did
not like it at all. We should have left it alone."

That takes nothing away from Schumacher's quite brilliant drive but it
does explain why Hill had so much trouble controlling his car when we
have seen him win in very wet conditions in Brazil.

John Napper

 
 
 

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by Richard Culle » Wed, 05 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Great Race at Spain!! One of the best so far - Well Done
>Schumacher!! Really bad conditions though.......

>But why was Damon SO bad??? I really think he is a bad driver in very wet
>conditions - he seems okay if he is in front on a slightly wet track -
>but put him behind another car in raining conditions and you get what you
>saw in Spain - way to go Damon!!! (for a British driver they should be
>used to the bad conditions it practically rains non-stop here in the
>UK!! Maybe more practice is required!)

I'm really puzzled why Damon couldn't get it together last weekend. He has
proved in the past that he can drive in rain - remember the race in Japan
(1994?) where he won the race after a restart. That, for me, was one of his
very best drives.

I felt sure he must have had a car problem, but he said it was all driver
error. Mind you, he didn't seem as relaxed as he was for the first few races
this year. You can tell a lot about Hill's disposition by watching his face -
sometimes he seems very relaxed and the race goes his way, other times he
looks tense and things become a bit difficult.

However, don't let me take anything away from Schumaker this weekend. I'm not
a big fan of his, but that drive was unbelievable. I take my hat off to the
guy. He blew everyone else away. Wow.

Richard

 
 
 

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by tba » Wed, 05 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was Schumacher who crashed at the entance to
poiter at Monaco, a circuit where driver skill is meant to be tested to the
limit.  So I think you can say honours are even bewten Hill and Schumy there.

 
 
 

FERRARI FERRARI!!! Why was Damon Hill so bad???!!!!

Post by Sylvan Smy » Wed, 05 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>According to tonight's Evening Standard newspaper, Williams have
>admitted that it was their fault:
>>"We screwed it up, big-time. Nothing was changed on Jacques Lilleneuve's
>>car after the warm-up - but we changed the settings on Damon's on the
>>grid. It was a mistake. It made the car much too lively and Damon did
>>not like it at all. We should have left it alone."

I was surprised to see Hill unable to keep up with Villeneuve and Alesi
in the opening laps.  Something seemed funny right away.  One would have
expected him to have those two covered for pace pretty easily.  Then the
spins started.  The explanation from Williams makes Hill's troubles
sound a lot like Greg Moore's problems in the closing laps in Sunday's
Indycar race.  His crew made a pretty drastic setup change late in the
race to loosen things up and he went out in a suddenly completely
differently handling car.  Worth a try in Moore's case.  I'm not so sure
in Hill's case, after being fastest in the warmup, but Schumacher was
quick, too and I wouldn't criticise Williams too much for aggressively
trying to keep him covered.  Williams seems a little more confident and
assertive in their strategy and tactics this year.

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Sylvan Smyth

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