Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by Brian Lawrenc » Wed, 19 Jul 2006 19:40:03


Introduction for New Readers
============================

I have posted these amateur analyses for several years now, in an attempt
to allow comparisons between Grands Prix, seasons, circuits, drivers, etc.

In order to make any meaningful observations it is essential to produce
these stats in as consistent a way as possible. To do this I have made
several "rules" that I try to follow for each race. Please note before
posting to complain that I missed an obvious passing manoeuvre that it
probably has been excluded because of my "rules". The rules are outlined
in the "Disclaimer" below - please read it.

This analysis was mainly derived from the official FIA lap chart, which is
usually available from www.fia.com, www.forix.com or www.autosport.com/f1/
on race day or the following day. The original chart remains copyright of the
FIA. Other excellent Formula One websites are available. This analysis is
completely unofficial.

Disclaimer
==========

For the purposes of this analysis, I only count what I will call "genuine"
passing manoeuvres, which means that I exclude:

 a) any place changes made during pit stops
 b) all lapping/unlapping manoeuvres
 c) any changes during the first lap

Hopefully, a) & b) are obvious, c) is because although lap one is often the
best opportunity to make up places, it is also not typical of the rest of
the race, and so, for the purpose of comparing races with other races and
seasons with other seasons, it is simpler to exclude lap one completely.
For the purposes of this analysis a pit stop encompasses the slowing down
lap and the out lap, since any passes during those laps MIGHT be due to
the stopper slowing down or speeding up.

Note: Passes are not counted in these stats UNLESS the gained position is
held until the start/finish line is next crossed and so gets recorded onto
the lap chart. I try to ignore anything that isn't recorded in the lap
chart, even if it was seen on TV - in this way I try to keep the numbers
as consistent as possible.

These are the passes I read for the 2006 French GP:

Lap Place  Passer (Passed)
==========================================
 2    18   Liuzzi (Albers)
 6    12   Speed (Barrichello)
14    13   Villeneuve (Barrichello)
27     4   R?ikk?nen (Trulli)
37     9   de la Rosa (Heidfeld)

That's 5 passes in total, the same number as last season.

This data will be available in GLIBS shortly - http://glibs.ssmmdd.co.uk/

    Grand Prix  2006  '05  '04  '03  '02  '01  '00  '99  '98  '97  Total  Avg.
==============================================================================
 1. Bahrain       39   14   15   --   --   --   --   --   --   --     68  22.7
 2. Malaysia      16    7   20   16   27   47   31   11   --   --    159  19.9
 3. Australia     23    5    9   38   19   18   13   41    7    3    176  17.6
 4. San Marino     4    7    6    4    6   13    7   11    8    5     71   7.1
 5. Europe/LUX    13   24   11    8   27    7   28   33    6   11    168  16.8
 6. Spain          7    3    7   19   10   10    4    4   12   36     93   9.2
 7. Monaco        19   10    5    0    9    6    2    5    4   29     89   8.9
 8. Britain        6    8   11   49   47    7    8   13   44    7    200  20.0
 9. Canada         9   12   19    8   15   13   14   14   10   22    136  13.6
10. USA            5    0   16   36   21   21   51    -    -    -    150  21.4
11. France         5    5   14   12    3    8   17   43   17    7    131  13.1
12. Germany       --    9   29   14   25   15   42   16   10   14    174  19.3
13. Hungary       --   12    6   25    1    5   10    7   11   28    105  11.7
14. Turkey        --   30   --   --   --   --   --   --   --   --     30  30.0
15. Italy         --   14   38    5   20   19   18   14   28    4    160  17.8
16. China         --   20   17   --   --   --   --   --   --   --     37  18.5
17. Japan         --   12   21   20    2   17    8    4   19    9    110  12.2
18. Brazil        --    6   41   48   30   26   22   27   13   32    244  27.1
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -  Argentina     --   --   --   --   --   --   --   --   11   39     50  25.0
 -  Austria       --   --   --   20   18   17   20   30   29   21    155  22.5
 -  Belgium       --   28   22   --    5    8   16   15   11   51    157  19.6
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Totals       146  226  307  320  285  257  311  288  240  318   2684  16.5
    No. GP        11   19   18   16   17   17   17   16   16   16    163
    Race Avg.     13   12   17   20   17   15   18   18   15   20     16

Note: In 1997-98 the Luxembourg GP was held at the Nrburgring.

Top 30 Races for Overtaking (1997-2006)
=======================================

     #  Year   GP          Wet       SC
===========================================
 1. 51  1997 - Belgium     Wet       SC (1)
    51  2000 - USA         Wet
 3. 49  2003 - Britain               SC (2)
 4. 48  2003 - Brazil      Wet       SC (4)  Race stopped
 5. 47  1999 - Australia             SC (2)
    47  2001 - Malaysia    Wet       SC (1)
    47  2002 - Britain     Showers
 8. 44  1998 - Britain     Wet       SC (1)
 9. 43  1999 - France      Wet       SC (1)
10. 42  2000 - Germany     Wet       SC (2)

11. 41  2004 - Brazil      Wet track
12. 39  1997 - Argentine             SC (1)
    39  2006 - Bahrain
14. 38  2003 - Australia             SC (2)
    38  2004 - Italy
16. 36  1997 - Spain
    36  2003 - USA         Wet
18. 33  1999 - Europe      Wet
19. 32  1997 - Brazil
20. 30  1999 - Austria
    30  2002 - Brazil
    30  2005 - Turkey

23. 29  1997 - Monaco      Wet
    29  2004 - Germany
    29  1998 - Austria               SC (1)
26. 28  2000 - Europe      Wet
    28  1997 - Hungary
    28  1998 - Italy
    28  2005 - Belgium
30. 27  2002 - Malaysia
    27  2002 - Europe
27 1999 - Brazil

Dry Races (Not wet & no SC)
===========================

 1. 39  2006 - Bahrain
 2. 38  2004 - Italy
 3. 36  1997 - Spain
 4. 32  1997 - Brazil
 5. 30  1999 - Austria
    30  2002 - Brazil
    30  2005 - Turkey
 8. 29  2004 - Germany
 9. 28  1997 - Hungary
    28  1998 - Italy
    28  2005 - Belgium

12. 27  1999 - Brazil
    27  2002 - Malaysia
    27  2002 - Europe
15. 25  2002 - Germany
    25  2003 - Hungary
17. 24  2005 - Europe
18. 22  2000 - Brazil
19. 21  2001 - USA
    21  2002 - USA
21 2004 - Japan
    21  1997 - Austria

Drivers' Season Total
=====================

                  BRN MAS AUS RSM Eur ESP MON GBR CDN USA FRA
=============================================================
 15  Fisichella    1   0   8   0   0   0   4   0   1   1   0
 12  Massa         5   5   -   0   0   0   3   0   2   0   0
 11  Rosberg       6   1   -   0   3   0   1   0   -   0   0
 11  M Schumacher  0   2   0   0   0   0   7   0   2   0   0
 10  R Schumacher  3   1   2   1   1   2   0   -   0   0   0
 10  Monteiro      2   2   1   1   3   0   1   0   -   0   0
  8  Speed         4   0   0   1   1   0   0   -   1   -   1
  8  Liuzzi        1   4   1   0   -   0   0   0   0   1   1
  8  R?ikk?nen     3   0   2   0   1   0   1   0   0   -   1
  7  Heidfeld      6   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   -   0
  7  Montoya       0   0   4   0   1   0   0   1   1   -   -
  6  Albers        0   1   2   0   3   0   0   0   -   0   0
  5  Button        3   0   0   0   0   0   0   2   0   0   0
  5  Klien         2   0   0   1   0   1   0   1   0   -   0
  5  Coulthard     0   0   0   0   0   1   2   0   2   0   0
  5  Trulli        1   0   -   0   0   0   0   1   0   3   0
  5  Villeneuve    1   1   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   1
  2  Webber        1   0   1   0   0   0   0   -   0   -   0
  2  Barrichello   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0
  1  Ide           0   1   0   0   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
  1  Sato          0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   -
  1  Alonso        0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
  1  de la Rosa    -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   1

  0  Montagny      -   -   -   -   0   0   0   0   0   -   0
-------------------------------------------------------------
146               39  16  23   4  13   7  19   6   9   5   5

No. of Times Overtaken
======================

                  BRN MAS AUS RSM Eur ESP MON GBR CDN USA FRA
=============================================================
 17  Sato          4   3   2   1   5   1   1   0   0   0   -
 12  Speed         5   2   2   0   0   0   3   -   0   -   0
 12  Coulthard     7   0   1   0   0   0   1   1   1   1   0
 11  Liuzzi        2   1   0   2   -   1   2   2   0   1   0
  9  Ide           3   3   3   0   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
  9  Button        0   0   4   0   1   0   2   0   2   0   0
  9  Albers        0   1   1   0   3   1   2   0   -   -   1
  9  Heidfeld      3   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   1   -   1
  8  Villeneuve    1   1   1   0   0   0   4   0   1   0   0
  9  Barrichello   4   0   1   0   0   1   0   1   0   0   2
  6  Monteiro      0   1   1   0   3   1   0   0   -   0   0
  4  Webber        1   0   1   1   0   0   1   -   0   -   0
  4  Montagny      -   -   -   -   0   2   2   0   0   -   0
  3  R Schumacher  1   0   2   0   0   0   0   -   0   0   0
  3  Fisichella    2   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0
  3  Montoya       2   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   -   -
  3  Klien         1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   2   -   0
  3  Rosberg       0   0   -   0   0   0   1   0   -   2   0
  3  Trulli        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   1
  1  M Schumacher  0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
  1  R?ikk?nen     0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   -   0
  1  Alonso        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0

  0  Massa         0   0   -   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
  0  de la Rosa    -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   0
-------------------------------------------------------------
146               39  16  23   4  13   7  19   6   9   5   5

Gains/Losses on Lap One ...

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Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by HooDooWitc » Thu, 20 Jul 2006 05:50:31

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:40:03 +0100, "Brian Lawrence"

Quote:

>Lap Place  Passer (Passed)
>==========================================
> 2    18   Liuzzi (Albers)
> 6    12   Speed (Barrichello)
>14    13   Villeneuve (Barrichello)
>27     4   R?ikk?nen (Trulli)
>37     9   de la Rosa (Heidfeld)

I only recall the two passes on Barrichello covered on the live feed.

--
HooDooWitch

 
 
 

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by Sheve » Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:17:35

HooDooWitch escribi:

Quote:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:40:03 +0100, "Brian Lawrence"

>> Lap Place  Passer (Passed)
>> ==========================================
>> 2    18   Liuzzi (Albers)
>> 6    12   Speed (Barrichello)
>> 14    13   Villeneuve (Barrichello)
>> 27     4   R?ikk?nen (Trulli)
>> 37     9   de la Rosa (Heidfeld)

> I only recall the two passes on Barrichello covered on the live feed.

The pass of de la Rosa to Heidfeld was also shown and it was perfectly
done by PDLR.

--
Shevek

 
 
 

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by HooDooWitc » Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:43:08

Quote:

>HooDooWitch escribi:
>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:40:03 +0100, "Brian Lawrence"

>>> Lap Place  Passer (Passed)
>>> ==========================================
>>> 2    18   Liuzzi (Albers)
>>> 6    12   Speed (Barrichello)
>>> 14    13   Villeneuve (Barrichello)
>>> 27     4   R?ikk?nen (Trulli)
>>> 37     9   de la Rosa (Heidfeld)

>> I only recall the two passes on Barrichello covered on the live feed.

>The pass of de la Rosa to Heidfeld was also shown and it was perfectly
>done by PDLR.

I must have missed it. Still, 3 out of 5 ain't bad.

--
HooDooWitch

 
 
 

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by WebSlav » Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:48:45

Quote:

> The pass of de la Rosa to Heidfeld was also shown and it was perfectly
> done by PDLR.

I don't know if you were on commercials, but the R?ikk?nen-Trulli
pass was shown live here in Finland.
 
 
 

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by WebSlav » Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:27:30

In fact, they were all shown on the coverage. Just checked it from tape.

 
 
 

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by Sheve » Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:57:11

WebSlave escribi:

Quote:

>> The pass of de la Rosa to Heidfeld was also shown and it was perfectly
>> done by PDLR.

> I don't know if you were on commercials, but the R?ikk?nen-Trulli
> pass was shown live here in Finland.

Here in Spain too, now that I think of it.

--
Shevek

 
 
 

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by CMille » Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:17:15

Quote:

>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:40:03 +0100, "Brian Lawrence"

>>> Lap Place  Passer (Passed)
>>> ==========================================
>>> 37     9   de la Rosa (Heidfeld)

>The pass of de la Rosa to Heidfeld was also shown and it was perfectly
>done by PDLR.

Was it perfectly done? I think that there might have been a blue flag
shown on the 'straight' that heads to the hairpin.  I remember trying
to figure out why blue flags were out when the two drivers were
racing.  When the view switched to the camera that was watching the
hairpin, I thought that I saw a flag marshal putting away a blue flag.
Nick Heidfeld comments on the blue flags in the post-race BMW press
release.

I've long since deleted the race from the cable box, so I can't go
back and check at this point.

 
 
 

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by Anand Nen » Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:44:35

Quote:

> The pass of de la Rosa to Heidfeld was also shown and it was perfectly
> done by PDLR.

Perfectly done, but it took him some time! He looked a bit rusty;

Alex (Wurz) would have been driving that MP4-21 had he not moved
out :(

Anand

 
 
 

Overtaking Statistics #11 - Magny-Cours

Post by WebSlav » Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:46:10

Quote:

> Was it perfectly done? I think that there might have been a blue flag
> shown on the 'straight' that heads to the hairpin.  I remember trying
> to figure out why blue flags were out when the two drivers were
> racing.  When the view switched to the camera that was watching the
> hairpin, I thought that I saw a flag marshal putting away a blue flag.
> Nick Heidfeld comments on the blue flags in the post-race BMW press
> release.

You are right. I watched it on tape. I don't know if Heidfeld lifted
earlier before the braking, but de la Rosa came from quite far back, so
it's possible.