ferrari can kiss the baby

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Mrv » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00


Whooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Yup it's all over.
Quote:

> their season is over.   kaput!!!

> /8^ >)

 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Fox » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00

U actually watching the same season as the rest of us????
Last yr it went down to the wire and this time last yr Mclaren where 30
points in front.....

As we say here in England.......

Wake up and smell the coffee m8:-))))

The seasons far from over:-))))

Watch and enjoy the fight.....
Schuey looking ok from the front of my TV;-)))

Love

FOX

Quote:
> their season is over.   kaput!!!

> /8^ >)


 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Mark Sukhij » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00

Wrong.  You're both wrong.  it's only just started.
---
Mark Sukhija

http://www.cix.co.uk/~msukhija/
Quote:

>Whooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Yup it's all over.


>> their season is over.   kaput!!!

>> /8^ >)


 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Fosma » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00

the words: "I" "think" "you" "are" "talking" and "crap" spring to mind....

Explain to me how not winning one race and having thier closest rivals
actually finishing for once spells the end of Ferrari. McLaren should take
this season as a kick in the teeth; there's no point in running the race
like a cheeta if it's going to get tired half way though... the surprise of
this race was both McLaren's finishing. Ferrari weren't planning a one two
here, and lost because of a bad tire decision. And no rain ; )

Fosman

 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by -lar » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Wrong.  You're both wrong.  it's only just started.

Well, understanding IS a three-edged sword after all.

And so... it begins.

So how will this end?

In fire.

-lark-

P.S. Hope not.

 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Mrv » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00

Actually Ferrari are quite please at the results.  A circuit that the Mclaren
was supposed to show their dominace did not occur.  Actually If I were Mclaren
I would be really concerned at this moment.  If they can not do it at this
track what about the rest of the circuits.  This was the one that worried
Ferrari the most and Michael in the middle part of the race showed what the
F399 is all about. Ferrari are still a few tenths ahead at this moment.
Montreal will show this.
Quote:

> the words: "I" "think" "you" "are" "talking" and "crap" spring to mind....

> Explain to me how not winning one race and having thier closest rivals
> actually finishing for once spells the end of Ferrari. McLaren should take
> this season as a kick in the teeth; there's no point in running the race
> like a cheeta if it's going to get tired half way though... the surprise of
> this race was both McLaren's finishing. Ferrari weren't planning a one two
> here, and lost because of a bad tire decision. And no rain ; )

> Fosman

 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Silver » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>the words: "I" "think" "you" "are" "talking" and "crap" spring to mind....

>Explain to me how not winning one race and having thier closest rivals
>actually finishing for once spells the end of Ferrari. McLaren should take
>this season as a kick in the teeth; there's no point in running the race
>like a cheeta if it's going to get tired half way though... the surprise of
>this race was both McLaren's finishing. Ferrari weren't planning a one two
>here, and lost because of a bad tire decision. And no rain ; )

I think the Macs are giong to have to look at what really happened today. If
MS hadn't been stuck behind Villeneuve for 20 odd laps, the result could
well have been reversed. They still need to pull something special out the
bag, 'cause I don't see MS having bad luck too often...

Silvery

 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Fox » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00

Do the words 'are' 'you' 'refering' 'to' ' me' mean anything........all the
threads after mine say pretty much the same thing!
If I ws Ron Dennis i'd be a little worried by todays performance.
Mclaren were sposed to be the *** team in this race yet MS managed to
carve his way thru a 30 second led and reduce it to 10......so much for the
vast superiorioty of the cars!!!!

I'd be looking over my shoulders at the BIG RED SHINY CARS if I was in the
Mac team:-)))

FOX

Quote:
> the words: "I" "think" "you" "are" "talking" and "crap" spring to mind....

> Explain to me how not winning one race and having thier closest rivals
> actually finishing for once spells the end of Ferrari. McLaren should take
> this season as a kick in the teeth; there's no point in running the race
> like a cheeta if it's going to get tired half way though... the surprise
of
> this race was both McLaren's finishing. Ferrari weren't planning a one two
> here, and lost because of a bad tire decision. And no rain ; )

> Fosman

 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by zbip » Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> Actually Ferrari are quite please at the results.  A circuit that the
Mclaren
> was supposed to show their dominace did not occur.  Actually If I were
Mclaren
> I would be really concerned at this moment.  If they can not do it at this
> track what about the rest of the circuits.  This was the one that worried
> Ferrari the most and Michael in the middle part of the race showed what
the
> F399 is all about. Ferrari are still a few tenths ahead at this moment.
> Montreal will show this.

Granted, MS *did* manage to maintain a blistering pace in the middle part of
the race.  OTOH, had he closed the gap to the point of breathing down DC's
neck, I think both M&Ms would have also picked up the pace.  After all, why
push your luck (and your yet-to-be-proven-reliable car) when you're almost
half a lap ahead of your most serious opponent.

IMHO, MS *had* to push hard after getting by JV to see if he couldn't put
the thumbscrews on DC and MH.  But it just didn't happen.

Come to think of it, besides the start,did *anything* happen during this GP?
I, for one, can't remember having to drink so much coffee during a race...

Regards,

zbip de Montral

"I got some bad news today.  You know the money you get from those ATM
machines?  It comes from *your* account!"
    -The anonymous manager of the new F1 team (as quoted in The RASF1
Survival Handbook)

 
 
 

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Post by Gunther Rola » Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Granted, MS *did* manage to maintain a blistering pace in the middle part of
>the race.  OTOH, had he closed the gap to the point of breathing down DC's
>neck, I think both M&Ms would have also picked up the pace.  After all, why
>push your luck (and your yet-to-be-proven-reliable car) when you're almost
>half a lap ahead of your most serious opponent.

Actually I agree with respect to Hakkinen, but Coulthard came to
within 4 tenth of loosing 2nd place - I can't believe that he didn't
try to push at least a little bit. If Takagi wouldn't have pitted
in front of Schumacher Coulthard might easily have ended up third.
So I think that in race trim McLaren had no advantage relative to
Ferrari.

Quote:
>Come to think of it, besides the start,did *anything* happen during this GP?
>I, for one, can't remember having to drink so much coffee during a race...

Until this year I sort of agreed with Mosley - overtaking should be
difficult. However there is a difference between difficult and
impossible - there were several times where cars that were 2 or
3 seconds a lap faster couldn't even get close on the main straight
(MS/JV, RB/JT, DC/DH). Maybe it's time to do something, at least to
the extend that it's possible to *try* an outbreaking manouvre.

Gunther

Quote:
>zbip de Montral

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Post by Roel Hob » Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:


> >Granted, MS *did* manage to maintain a blistering pace in the middle part of
> >the race.  OTOH, had he closed the gap to the point of breathing down DC's
> >neck, I think both M&Ms would have also picked up the pace.  After all, why
> >push your luck (and your yet-to-be-proven-reliable car) when you're almost
> >half a lap ahead of your most serious opponent.

> Actually I agree with respect to Hakkinen, but Coulthard came to
> within 4 tenth of loosing 2nd place - I can't believe that he didn't
> try to push at least a little bit. If Takagi wouldn't have pitted
> in front of Schumacher Coulthard might easily have ended up third.
> So I think that in race trim McLaren had no advantage relative to
> Ferrari.

Slowed down by Takagi? Pit speed is just 80 km/h or 120 km/h, which one of
those two ? You're not telling me that Schumacher can drive faster at 80
km/h than Takagi at 80 km/h.

Roel

Quote:

> >Come to think of it, besides the start,did *anything* happen during this GP?
> >I, for one, can't remember having to drink so much coffee during a race...

> Until this year I sort of agreed with Mosley - overtaking should be
> difficult. However there is a difference between difficult and
> impossible - there were several times where cars that were 2 or
> 3 seconds a lap faster couldn't even get close on the main straight
> (MS/JV, RB/JT, DC/DH). Maybe it's time to do something, at least to
> the extend that it's possible to *try* an outbreaking manouvre.

> Gunther

> >zbip de Montral

> --

 
 
 

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Post by Gunther Rola » Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:00:00



The first part of the connection from track to pits is unrestricted.
One could actually see that Takagi was much less agressive than
Schumacher normally is on the this part and in braking to the
pitlane speed limit.
Takagi cost Schumacher about 0.5 to 1 sec, which is all that would have
been needed to get out ahead of Coulthard.

Quote:
>Slowed down by Takagi? Pit speed is just 80 km/h or 120 km/h, which one of
>those two ? You're not telling me that Schumacher can drive faster at 80
>km/h than Takagi at 80 km/h.
>Roel

Gunther

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ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Fox » Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I cant send u mail back:-(
send a nice FOX friendly email thingy:-)

FOX

Quote:
> their season is over.   kaput!!!

> /8^ >)

 
 
 

ferrari can kiss the baby

Post by Mark J. Fruscian » Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:00:00

[...]

Quote:
>I'd be looking over my shoulders at the BIG RED SHINY CARS if I was in the
>Mac team:-)))

They sure shouldn't count on His Royal Squidness being able to run
interference every race...

Mark
http://www.pipeline.com/~opus/

An opponent of newsgroup moderation.

"Damn all expurgated books; the dirtiest book of all is the expurgated
book."  - Walt Whitman

 
 
 

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Post by Mark Sukhij » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Could the fact that MS cut this lead by 20 seconds point to the possibility
of Ferrari having made advances in speed of the car?  Reliability so far has
been attained at the expense of speed.  If Ferari now have increased speed
with their reliability, McLaren could be (are?) in trouble
---
Mark Sukhija

http://SportToday.org/~msukhija/

Quote:

>Do the words 'are' 'you' 'refering' 'to' ' me' mean anything........all the
>threads after mine say pretty much the same thing!
>If I ws Ron Dennis i'd be a little worried by todays performance.
>Mclaren were sposed to be the *** team in this race yet MS managed to
>carve his way thru a 30 second led and reduce it to 10......so much for the
>vast superiorioty of the cars!!!!

>I'd be looking over my shoulders at the BIG RED SHINY CARS if I was in the
>Mac team:-)))

>FOX


>> the words: "I" "think" "you" "are" "talking" and "crap" spring to
mind....

>> Explain to me how not winning one race and having thier closest rivals
>> actually finishing for once spells the end of Ferrari. McLaren should
take
>> this season as a kick in the teeth; there's no point in running the race
>> like a cheeta if it's going to get tired half way though... the surprise
>of
>> this race was both McLaren's finishing. Ferrari weren't planning a one
two
>> here, and lost because of a bad tire decision. And no rain ; )

>> Fosman