Silly season indeed (Larini to Ferrari ?)

Silly season indeed (Larini to Ferrari ?)

Post by Jeroen van der Waa » Wed, 16 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Last night on eurosport news it was stated that Schumacher would not have
Gerhard Berger in the 2nd Ferrari and he'd rather see Nicola Larini team up
with him.

Real life, beats internet.

Jeroen  

 
 
 

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Post by arthur iverso » Wed, 16 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Interesting. You know, I would expect something like that.
Berger, if he stays, certainly won't "enjoy" himself, nor
I believe, will he be able to cope with Schu's speed.
Larini is well respected at Ferrari and would do a fine
job. Adding to this, Larini stated in a recent "Autosport"
that he turned down a very good F1 ride for 1995. My impression
is that it was Mclaren, or equivalent. But if a Ferrari offer
came for 1996, he's gotta go for it. Hell, I'm still hoping
Luac Badoer can find his way into a Ferrari seat before long.
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Post by arthur iverso » Wed, 16 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Yes indeed!
Bravo Larini!
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Silly season indeed (Larini to Ferrari ?)

Post by Bar » Wed, 16 Aug 1995 04:00:00


|> Last night on eurosport news it was stated that Schumacher would not have
|> Gerhard Berger in the 2nd Ferrari and he'd rather see Nicola Larini team up
|> with him.
|>
|> Real life, beats internet.
|>
|> Jeroen  

This reminds me of Senna refusing to accept a good driver (well, actually, I
think it was specifically Nelson Piquet) as his team-mate for Lotus in the
mid-1980s, so they got Johnny Dumfries (remember him??) This could prove a
problem for Coulthard, as I think Berger would jump ship to McLaren, thereby
denying him a drive. If Schu isn't happy with Berger, then I suspect all the
promising drivers like Barrichello and Frentzen would probably be vetoed as
well. I think this sort of attitude is pretty poor -- Schumacher will clearly
be better than his team-mate, and shouldn't be suffering the sort of paranoia
more fitting of Nigel Mansell. If he performs, he will effectively have #1
status -- if he doesn't, he doesn't deserve it. On the other hand, I seem to
recall that Larini wasn't too shabby when he drove for Ferrari those few races.
But as most of you know by now, my memory's pretty lousy...

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Post by John B. Re » Wed, 16 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
>Last night on eurosport news it was stated that Schumacher would not have
>Gerhard Berger in the 2nd Ferrari and he'd rather see Nicola Larini team up
>with him.

>Real life, beats internet.

>Jeroen  

I almost hope that happens.  If Berger out-qualified Schumacher, it would
not seem out of the question.  And, in fact, it would probably happen as
Gehard has better experience.

On the other hand, I would truly enjoy seeing Nicola (long suffering test driver)
beat Schumi or at, least, get within a few tenths.  After all, he does have a
podium finish to his credit.  He made some rookie mistakes during his stint last
year, but I, for one, would love to see him get his chance.

John B. Rees

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Post by Stephen M Baine » Wed, 16 Aug 1995 04:00:00



Quote:
> On the other hand, I would truly enjoy seeing Nicola (long suffering test
>  driver)
> beat Schumi or at, least, get within a few tenths.  After all, he does have a
> podium finish to his credit.  He made some rookie mistakes during his stint last> year, but I, for one, would love to see him get his chance.

I really would love to see him racing in F1 again. He really deserves a
decent break at the pinacle of the sport. If not, I fear that his best result
of his career in F1 will never be remembered. If he gets another chance he
will have a chance to beat it, and maybe even better, beat his team-mate -
whoever that turns out to be.
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Post by Wolfgang Zweyga » Thu, 17 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
>> On the other hand, I would truly enjoy seeing Nicola (long suffering test
>> driver)
>> beat Schumi or at, least, get within a few tenths.  After all, he does have a
>> podium finish to his credit.  
>I really would love to see him racing in F1 again. He really deserves a
>decent break at the pinacle of the sport. If not, I fear that his best result
>of his career in F1 will never be remembered. If he gets another chance he
>will have a chance to beat it, and maybe even better, beat his team-mate -
>whoever that turns out to be.

Nicola Larini had some free seats for 1995 in F1. He decided to win races
in the German Touringcars, what he's doing very very well, and not fight
for 10th or 15th position in F1.

Maybe in 1996 he will be back in F1.

Bye Wolfgang

 
 
 

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Post by Stephen M Baine » Thu, 17 Aug 1995 04:00:00



Quote:
> Stephen M Baines wrote

> >I really would love to see him racing in F1 again. He really deserves a
> >decent break at the pinacle of the sport. If not, I fear that his best result
> >of his career in F1 will never be remembered. If he gets another chance he
> >will have a chance to beat it, and maybe even better, beat his team-mate -
> >whoever that turns out to be.

> Nicola Larini had some free seats for 1995 in F1. He decided to win races
> in the German Touringcars, what he's doing very very well, and not fight
> for 10th or 15th position in F1.

Which to my mind is sensible. I'm glad to see him doing well in racing -
that is why he is in it. But, in my heart of hearts I would love to see
him in a decent F1 car. Yes, he had chances for F1 in '95, but I don't
want to see him languishing at the back of the field (again).

Quote:
> Maybe in 1996 he will be back in F1.

Fingers crossed.
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Post by Vincent Ton » Thu, 17 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Quote:


>|> Last night on eurosport news it was stated that Schumacher would not have
>|> Gerhard Berger in the 2nd Ferrari and he'd rather see Nicola Larini team up
>|> with him.
>|>
>|> Real life, beats internet.
>|>
>|> Jeroen  

I get the impression that Schumacher is a little afraid of having a competitor in
the same team, thus dilution of the team's concentration on Schumacher. I recall
Schumacher stating he would rather have Jos Verstappen as Benetton teammate than
Johnny Herbert, after Johnny's successful test last year when he was in between
Lotus-Ligier-Benetton phases

Quote:

>This reminds me of Senna refusing to accept a good driver (well, actually, I
>think it was specifically Nelson Piquet)

I believe that was Derek Warwick...

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Post by Surya Sinh » Fri, 18 Aug 1995 04:00:00

I dont know - Gerhard has been consistently fast - I remember when he partnered with
Senna he made pole position as well as posted fastest laps during GP's on several
occasions.  Gerhard has the speed and the skill - of that I have no doubts.  Somehow
he is missing the hunger to be a WC.

Just my 2 groschen worth,

Surya Sinha

 
 
 

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Post by Shayak Bhattachary » Sun, 20 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
> promising drivers like Barrichello and Frentzen would probably be vetoed as
> well. I think this sort of attitude is pretty poor -- Schumacher will clearly
> be better than his team-mate, and shouldn't be suffering the sort of paranoia
> more fitting of Nigel Mansell. If he performs, he will effectively have #1
> status...       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hmm..Bart Boy, when did you start jumping to conclusions about Mansell's
attitude?

True Mansell did complain a lot during his last few days of F1 racing
(and left a few gits like you forever cursing him), but not once did he
suffer any paranoia as far as his team-mate was concerned. I have been
watching F1 since 1982, and i haven't come across news.

Secondly, i do not think Schumacher should be compared to Mansell at this
stage. True, he is a good driver, true he is probably the best there is
now, but that does not make ground for such meaningless discussions.

On to Spa, and hoping for a Coulthard or Hill victory.

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Post by Jay A. Cari » Tue, 22 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

> Last night on eurosport news it was stated that Schumacher would not have
> Gerhard Berger in the 2nd Ferrari and he'd rather see Nicola Larini team up
> with him.

I don't think he has a say in this matter. Ferrari have given him the
money he wants and now he wants to reduce Ferrari to a 1 car team? Won't
happen. Ferrari would be stupid to let a driver of Berger's caliber go.

IMHO, Larini is a fine driver. But the implication is that Schumacher
wants the team to focus on him and him only. IMHO, if Ferrari want to win
races, they have to realize that the driver is the focus. That's all that
Schumacher needs, but if he is truly this insecure, then we'll never know
how he really stacks up on equal footing. Wouldn't be the first time, of
course. Mansell didn't want Prost, Senna didn't want Prost, and Senna
didn't want Warwick, etc.

Jay
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Post by Bar » Tue, 22 Aug 1995 04:00:00



|>
|> > promising drivers like Barrichello and Frentzen would probably be vetoed as
|> > well. I think this sort of attitude is pretty poor -- Schumacher will
|> > clearly be better than his team-mate, and shouldn't be suffering the sort
|> > of paranoia more fitting of Nigel Mansell. If he performs, he will
|> > effectively have #1 status...
|>
|> Hmm..Bart Boy, when did you start jumping to conclusions about Mansell's
|> attitude?
|>
|> True Mansell did complain a lot during his last few days of F1 racing
|> (and left a few gits like you forever cursing him), but not once did he
|> suffer any paranoia as far as his team-mate was concerned. I have been
|> watching F1 since 1982, and i haven't come across news.

Well, I don't think 1987 counts as his "last few days". That, I seem to recall,
was when he was complaining about Williams giving Piquet a better car than him.
And then there was the time at Ferrari when he said the mechanics were more
interested in Prost's car, and in fact THE MECHANICS AND PROST WERE CONSPIRING
AGAINST HIM BECAUSE THEY COULD CONVERSE IN ITALIAN. This is paranoia, in my
book. His complaints about McLaren, on the other hand, were pretty much
justified, in my book.

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