Michael Schumacher trivia

Michael Schumacher trivia

Post by sjpate.. » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:52:34


This is something that came up in another discussion. I seem to
remember a race where Schumi's gearbox failed, but he still pulled off
a podium finish. I think it was Hungary, but I'm not sure. Anyone out
there have the answer? Thanks in advance.
 
 
 

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Post by Chuckie Finzte » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:03:52

Yer, I remember that. Wasn't he driving for Benetton, and his car got stuck
in 5th gear, if i remember did he still managed to win the race?

Chuckie F

Quote:
> This is something that came up in another discussion. I seem to
> remember a race where Schumi's gearbox failed, but he still pulled off
> a podium finish. I think it was Hungary, but I'm not sure. Anyone out
> there have the answer? Thanks in advance.


 
 
 

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Post by Bob? » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:50:08


Quote:
> Yer, I remember that. Wasn't he driving for Benetton, and his car got
> stuck
> in 5th gear, if i remember did he still managed to win the race?

> Chuckie F


>> This is something that came up in another discussion. I seem to
>> remember a race where Schumi's gearbox failed, but he still pulled off
>> a podium finish. I think it was Hungary, but I'm not sure. Anyone out
>> there have the answer? Thanks in advance.

I think that was the 1994 Spanish GP. His car was stuck in 5th gear but he
was able to finish 2nd or 3rd.

 
 
 

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Post by SNOma » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:33:27

Quote:



>> Yer, I remember that. Wasn't he driving for Benetton, and his car got
>> stuck
>> in 5th gear, if i remember did he still managed to win the race?

>> Chuckie F


>>> This is something that came up in another discussion. I seem to
>>> remember a race where Schumi's gearbox failed, but he still pulled off
>>> a podium finish. I think it was Hungary, but I'm not sure. Anyone out
>>> there have the answer? Thanks in advance.

> I think that was the 1994 Spanish GP. His car was stuck in 5th gear but he
> was able to finish 2nd or 3rd.

he came 2nd, brilliant piece of driving
 
 
 

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Post by Wafton Perc » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:56:39

Yup.  I read it and thought Spain 1994.  Schumi was always pretty good
in Spain.  Didn't he give Nige fits in Spain in 1992.  It started
raining and Schumi was catching Nige in the all conquering active
suspension Williams.  Nige said he calmed himself down and started to
pull away.
 
 
 

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Post by Da Fra » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:16:52



Quote:
>Yup.  I read it and thought Spain 1994.  Schumi was always pretty good
>in Spain.  Didn't he give Nige fits in Spain in 1992.  It started
>raining and Schumi was catching Nige in the all conquering active
>suspension Williams.  Nige said he calmed himself down and started to
>pull away.

A fair effort from Schu, but let's not forget, the Bennetton was the
class car of the field(not unlike the Ferrari in '04) and who were and
where did the rest finish that day in '94.
Most everyone with a decent car went out with some mechanical fault
and the 3rd place guy(forget who) after Schumi was almost a lap
behind. In addition Schumi was way ahead fo the field alredy when the
gearbox failure occured.
Of course it could have been just Option 13 playing up, but we
wouldn't know about that... ;-)

--

Regards, Frank

 
 
 

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Post by Doc Knutse » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:39:33



Quote:



>>> Yer, I remember that. Wasn't he driving for Benetton, and his car got
>>> stuck
>>> in 5th gear, if i remember did he still managed to win the race?

>>> Chuckie F


>>>> This is something that came up in another discussion. I seem to
>>>> remember a race where Schumi's gearbox failed, but he still pulled off
>>>> a podium finish. I think it was Hungary, but I'm not sure. Anyone out
>>>> there have the answer? Thanks in advance.

>> I think that was the 1994 Spanish GP. His car was stuck in 5th gear but
>> he was able to finish 2nd or 3rd.

> he came 2nd, brilliant piece of driving

Yes, especially pulling away from a pit stop in 5th, with no flywheel and a
peaky engine...not simply brilliant driving, but ubermensch electronics as
well.
 Doc
 
 
 

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Post by Paul- » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:59:15

Quote:

> Yes, especially pulling away from a pit stop in 5th, with no flywheel
> and a peaky engine...not simply brilliant driving, but ubermensch
> electronics as well.

LOL!

Never did believe the myth, never will.

--
Paul-B

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Harma » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:34:44


Quote:

>> Yes, especially pulling away from a pit stop in 5th, with no flywheel
>> and a peaky engine...not simply brilliant driving, but ubermensch
>> electronics as well.

> LOL!

> Never did believe the myth, never will.

In all fairness, I remember that race fairly well. We had on-screen
telemetry that showed what gear the drivers were in. We did several laps
onboard with Michael, and the sound of the engine was consistent with him
not changing gear.

I think assuming the graphics and soundtrack were faked to make Michael look
good is black-helicopter territory.

    Paul

 
 
 

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Post by Paul- » Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:56:09

Quote:




> > > Yes, especially pulling away from a pit stop in 5th, with no
> > > flywheel and a peaky engine...not simply brilliant driving, but
> > > ubermensch electronics as well.

> > LOL!

> > Never did believe the myth, never will.

> In all fairness, I remember that race fairly well. We had on-screen
> telemetry that showed what gear the drivers were in. We did several
> laps onboard with Michael, and the sound of the engine was consistent
> with him not changing gear.

> I think assuming the graphics and soundtrack were faked to make
> Michael look good is black-helicopter territory.

>   Paul

I don't think it's possible for a Formula 1 car to pull away from a
pitstop in 5th gear with no flywheel and an ineffective (to speak of)
clutch?

--

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Harma » Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:17:53


Quote:
> I don't think it's possible for a Formula 1 car to pull away from a
> pitstop in 5th gear with no flywheel and an ineffective (to speak of)
> clutch?

Does that depend on how good the traction control / engine management
software is on the car? Oh sorry, forgot, of course the Benetton didn't have
traction control, what am I thinking...?

My memory is hazy about how well he pulled out from the stop. Did they drop
the car with the wheels spinning, or push him...? My brain insists he pulled
away from stationary, albeit incredibly slowly.

I do remmeber the issue of whether the clutch would survive the stop was
brought up in the commentary.

    Paul

 
 
 

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Post by Doc Knutse » Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:24:52



Quote:



>>> Yes, especially pulling away from a pit stop in 5th, with no flywheel
>>> and a peaky engine...not simply brilliant driving, but ubermensch
>>> electronics as well.

>> LOL!

>> Never did believe the myth, never will.

> In all fairness, I remember that race fairly well. We had on-screen
> telemetry that showed what gear the drivers were in. We did several laps
> onboard with Michael, and the sound of the engine was consistent with him
> not changing gear.

> I think assuming the graphics and soundtrack were faked to make Michael
> look good is black-helicopter territory.

While it may be possible to drive around the circuit in 5th only, I do not
believe it is physically possible to exit the pits in fifth, from a standing
start. Simple as that.
 Doc

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
>    Paul

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Harma » Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:29:22


Quote:
> While it may be possible to drive around the circuit in 5th only, I do not
> believe it is physically possible to exit the pits in fifth, from a
> standing start. Simple as that.

Maybe they rebooted the electronics during the stop to get him a lower gear?
Now you mention it, I remember reading that perhaps he could change up, but
not down - although that could easily have been post-hoc rationalisation on
here or elsewhere.

    Paul

 
 
 

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Post by Ian Dalzie » Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:57:10


Quote:




>> > > Yes, especially pulling away from a pit stop in 5th, with no
>> > > flywheel and a peaky engine...not simply brilliant driving, but
>> > > ubermensch electronics as well.

>> > LOL!

>> > Never did believe the myth, never will.

>> In all fairness, I remember that race fairly well. We had on-screen
>> telemetry that showed what gear the drivers were in. We did several
>> laps onboard with Michael, and the sound of the engine was consistent
>> with him not changing gear.

>> I think assuming the graphics and soundtrack were faked to make
>> Michael look good is black-helicopter territory.

>>   Paul

>I don't think it's possible for a Formula 1 car to pull away from a
>pitstop in 5th gear with no flywheel and an ineffective (to speak of)
>clutch?

Perhaps he had first and fifth? As Paul says, it did sound right.
--

Ian

 
 
 

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Post by Phil Newnha » Sun, 15 Jan 2006 06:22:15

Quote:



>>While it may be possible to drive around the circuit in 5th only, I do not
>>believe it is physically possible to exit the pits in fifth, from a
>>standing start. Simple as that.

> Maybe they rebooted the electronics during the stop to get him a lower gear?
> Now you mention it, I remember reading that perhaps he could change up, but
> not down - although that could easily have been post-hoc rationalisation on
> here or elsewhere.

Place to look would be Atlas, if they still have good archives. They
used to when they were free... I've never bothered to buy a subscription
tho'.

--
Phil

http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/31307.html