Mika, Mika, Mika the superpilot!!!!!

Mika, Mika, Mika the superpilot!!!!!

Post by Default Use » Sat, 09 May 1998 04:00:00


oh yes, are we gonna see this again!!!!

1 free practice         1st Mika Hakkinen      
2 free                  1st Mika Hakkinen
3 qual                  pole Mika
4 race                  winner Mika    
5 fastest lap           and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

                        the superpilot, president of USA, president
                        of universum, the dummie

 
 
 

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Post by Paul » Sat, 09 May 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
>oh yes, are we gonna see this again!!!!

>1 free practice        1st Mika Hakkinen      
>2 free                 1st Mika Hakkinen
>3 qual                 pole Mika
>4 race                         winner Mika    
>5 fastest lap          and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

>                       the superpilot, president of USA, president
>                       of universum, the dummie

Well, you post this before every race..... I suppose the law of averages
says that one day you'll be right.

Don't bank on it though!
--
Paul B
There are two kinds of bikers.... Those who ride Triumphs and those who wish
they did.

 
 
 

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Post by Ro » Sat, 09 May 1998 04:00:00

No



Quote:
>oh yes, are we gonna see this again!!!!

>1 free practice     1st Mika Hakkinen      
>2 free                      1st Mika Hakkinen
>3 qual                      pole Mika
>4 race                      winner Mika    
>5 fastest lap               and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

>                    the superpilot, president of USA, president
>                    of universum, the dummie

--
Ron Thornton

"Officials banned Schumacher from two races. Now he's out to get the Prix"
Headline from SKY TV Adverti***t in NZ Sunday Star-Times, November 6, 1994

 
 
 

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Post by J » Mon, 11 May 1998 04:00:00

No? ;)

JC

Quote:

>No



>>oh yes, are we gonna see this again!!!!

>>1 free practice         1st Mika Hakkinen      
>>2 free                  1st Mika Hakkinen
>>3 qual                  pole Mika
>>4 race                  winner Mika    
>>5 fastest lap           and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

>>                        the superpilot, president of USA, president
>>                        of universum, the dummie

>--
>Ron Thornton

>"Officials banned Schumacher from two races. Now he's out to get the Prix"
>Headline from SKY TV Adverti***t in NZ Sunday Star-Times, November 6, 1994

 
 
 

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Post by Ronny Holmstr » Mon, 11 May 1998 04:00:00

Yes, he is superb ! Second time this year... so far...
Statistics anyone. How many times in one season has a driver done this -
"strike" ?

Quote:
>1 free practice         1st Mika Hakkinen      
>2 free                  1st Mika Hakkinen
>3 qual                  pole Mika
>4 race                  winner Mika    
>5 fastest lap           and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

 
 
 

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Post by Ro » Mon, 11 May 1998 04:00:00

Oooohhh  :(

Quote:

>No? ;)

>JC


>>No



>>>oh yes, are we gonna see this again!!!!

>>>1 free practice     1st Mika Hakkinen      
>>>2 free                      1st Mika Hakkinen
>>>3 qual                      pole Mika
>>>4 race                      winner Mika    
>>>5 fastest lap               and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

>>>                    the superpilot, president of USA, president
>>>                    of universum, the dummie

>>--
>>Ron Thornton

>>"Officials banned Schumacher from two races. Now he's out to get the Prix"
>>Headline from SKY TV Adverti***t in NZ Sunday Star-Times, November 6, 1994

--
Ron Thornton

"Officials banned Schumacher from two races. Now he's out to get the Prix"
Headline from SKY TV Adverti***t in NZ Sunday Star-Times, November 6, 1994

 
 
 

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Post by gws » Mon, 11 May 1998 04:00:00

Just wondering how many F1 drivers are untalented enough to not win most of
their races if they drove for McLaren.  After looking at Hakkinen and
Coulthard finish 1-2 in Spain, I am developing an "any fool could have done
it" attitude toward McLaren drivers.  Am I giving these guys too little
credit?  Maybe so.  JV was the victim of this kind of conventional wisdom
last year.  Nevertheless, it certainly looks like the hardware is a *lot*
more important than the software in F1 these days.  I am a relative newcomer
as a fan of F1.  How often has domination by a single manufacturer of the
sort evidenced by McLaren this year occurred in the past?

Grey Satterfield

Quote:

>Yes, he is superb ! Second time this year... so far...
>Statistics anyone. How many times in one season has a driver done this -
>"strike" ?

>>1 free practice         1st Mika Hakkinen
>>2 free                  1st Mika Hakkinen
>>3 qual                  pole Mika
>>4 race                  winner Mika
>>5 fastest lap           and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

 
 
 

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Post by Ian Hil » Mon, 11 May 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> How often has domination by a single manufacturer of the
> sort evidenced by McLaren this year occurred in the past?

Years where the Constructor's Champions had nearly or over twice the
points of their nearest rivals:

1971    Tyrrell, 73 points (2nd BRM, 36)
1980    Williams, 120 pts (2nd Ligier, 66)
1984    McLaren, 143.5 pts (2nd Ferrari, 57.5)
1986    Williams, 135 pts (2nd McLaren, 87)
1987    Williams, 137 pts (2nd McLaren, 76)
1988    McLaren, 199 pts (2nd Ferrari, 65)
1989    McLaren, 141 pts (2nd Williams, 77)
1992    Williams, 164 pts (2nd McLaren, 99)
1993    Williams, 168 pts (2nd McLaren, 84)

I can't seem to find stats for 95-97 but I think the only year which
might qualify is 1996. Anyone?
Anyhow, interesting to note that until 1980, only 1 year had been
dominated so much by one team - at least since the Constructors
Championship was instigated. But since 1980 it's a regular occurrence.

Pre 1958:
1950-51 Alfa ***.
1952-53 Ferrari ***.
1954-55 Mercedes ***.
1956 Maseratis and Lancia-Ferraris pretty evenly matched.
1957 ditto Maseratis and Vanwalls.

Hope this is of some interest.

--
Cheers
Ian Hill, Cambridge, UK

Homepage: http://SportToday.org/(now updated with Spanish GP
results!)

 
 
 

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Post by Tuomo O. Vuolteenah » Mon, 11 May 1998 04:00:00

Even if one is driving a *** car, it's still possible to drop the
ball. Examples include Hill (1993,1994,1995), Coulthard (1995), Frentzen
(1997). As these drivers demonstrated, "any fool" couldn't and didn't do
it. Let's hope that Hakkinen will not drop the ball, too.

Quote:

> Just wondering how many F1 drivers are untalented enough to not win most of
> their races if they drove for McLaren.  After looking at Hakkinen and
> Coulthard finish 1-2 in Spain, I am developing an "any fool could have done
> it" attitude toward McLaren drivers.  Am I giving these guys too little
> credit?  Maybe so.  JV was the victim of this kind of conventional wisdom
> last year.  Nevertheless, it certainly looks like the hardware is a *lot*
> more important than the software in F1 these days.  I am a relative newcomer
> as a fan of F1.  How often has domination by a single manufacturer of the
> sort evidenced by McLaren this year occurred in the past?

> Grey Satterfield


> >Yes, he is superb ! Second time this year... so far...
> >Statistics anyone. How many times in one season has a driver done this -
> >"strike" ?

> >>1 free practice         1st Mika Hakkinen
> >>2 free                  1st Mika Hakkinen
> >>3 qual                  pole Mika
> >>4 race                  winner Mika
> >>5 fastest lap           and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

 
 
 

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Post by Robert Conno » Mon, 11 May 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Even if one is driving a *** car, it's still possible to drop the
> ball. Examples include Hill (1993,1994,1995), Coulthard (1995), Frentzen
> (1997). As these drivers demonstrated, "any fool" couldn't and didn't do
> it. Let's hope that Hakkinen will not drop the ball, too.


> > Just wondering how many F1 drivers are untalented enough to not win most of
> > their races if they drove for McLaren.  After looking at Hakkinen and
> > Coulthard finish 1-2 in Spain, I am developing an "any fool could have done
> > it" attitude toward McLaren drivers.  Am I giving these guys too little
> > credit?  Maybe so.  JV was the victim of this kind of conventional wisdom
> > last year.  Nevertheless, it certainly looks like the hardware is a *lot*
> > more important than the software in F1 these days.  I am a relative newcomer
> > as a fan of F1.  How often has domination by a single manufacturer of the
> > sort evidenced by McLaren this year occurred in the past?

> > Grey Satterfield


> > >Yes, he is superb ! Second time this year... so far...
> > >Statistics anyone. How many times in one season has a driver done this -
> > >"strike" ?

> > >>1 free practice         1st Mika Hakkinen
> > >>2 free                  1st Mika Hakkinen
> > >>3 qual                  pole Mika
> > >>4 race                  winner Mika
> > >>5 fastest lap           and the award goes to... MIKA HAKKINEN

Hill was driving a *** car in '94?------The Benetton was clearly
superior--------even the great Senna spun out while trying to chase down
Schumacher.  Maybe you just forgot.
RC
 
 
 

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Post by gws » Mon, 11 May 1998 04:00:00

Thanks to Ian for his trenchant analysis, appended below, answering my
question as to how frequently particular constructors have dominated a F1
season.  It has happened with such frequency that I would forget about F1
and go back to following Major League Baseball but for the interesting
exchanges in this newsgroup. -:)

Grey Satterfield

Quote:


>> How often has domination by a single manufacturer of the
>> sort evidenced by McLaren this year occurred in the past?

>Years where the Constructor's Champions had nearly or over twice the
>points of their nearest rivals:

>1971 Tyrrell, 73 points (2nd BRM, 36)
>1980 Williams, 120 pts (2nd Ligier, 66)
>1984 McLaren, 143.5 pts (2nd Ferrari, 57.5)
>1986 Williams, 135 pts (2nd McLaren, 87)
>1987 Williams, 137 pts (2nd McLaren, 76)
>1988 McLaren, 199 pts (2nd Ferrari, 65)
>1989 McLaren, 141 pts (2nd Williams, 77)
>1992 Williams, 164 pts (2nd McLaren, 99)
>1993 Williams, 168 pts (2nd McLaren, 84)

>I can't seem to find stats for 95-97 but I think the only year which
>might qualify is 1996. Anyone?
>Anyhow, interesting to note that until 1980, only 1 year had been
>dominated so much by one team - at least since the Constructors
>Championship was instigated. But since 1980 it's a regular occurrence.

>Pre 1958:
>1950-51 Alfa ***.
>1952-53 Ferrari ***.
>1954-55 Mercedes ***.
>1956 Maseratis and Lancia-Ferraris pretty evenly matched.
>1957 ditto Maseratis and Vanwalls.

>Hope this is of some interest.

 
 
 

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Post by Eddie Dubour » Tue, 12 May 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Even if one is driving a *** car, it's still possible to drop the
> ball. Examples include Hill (1993,1994,1995), Coulthard (1995), Frentzen
> (1997). As these drivers demonstrated, "any fool" couldn't and didn't do
> it. Let's hope that Hakkinen will not drop the ball, too.

I really don't think that it's likely.

Mika is looking very comfortable in his drives, and he certainly deals
with pressure well.  The Mclaren seems highly reliable, the whole team
seem to function together, so unless DC wakes up in a very big way, the
title will be Mikas (curses, curses :-)

I would take minor issue with Hill dropping the ball in 94.  He
certainly was trying, and if it hadn't been for an unfortunate collision
at Adelaide, he would have won. (BTW, I'm not, never have been, and it's
unlikely I ever will be a Damon Hill fan.  Graham, now that's a
different matter)

Cheers,

Eddie Dubourg

 
 
 

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Post by Risto Lankine » Tue, 12 May 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Hill was driving a *** car in '94?

No, he was not.  He drove the winning car, though (Williams won
the constructors' championship that year), but to dominate, even
the winning car requires a driver with consistency and skill.

terv: Risto L.

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Post by Seppo Kopone » Fri, 15 May 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Hill was driving a *** car in '94?------The Benetton was clearly
>superior--------even the great Senna spun out while trying to chase down
>Schumacher.  Maybe you just forgot.
>RC

Just two shy comments:
1) It would seem that at the beginning of the season Benetton may
    have had an edge over Williams, especially on wet. Few would
    claim that this was the case as season progressed.
2) "Even the great Senna" made mistakes.

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