Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by Jonathan Peirc » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:12:26


His engine was still running...
 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by BigBir » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:53:59

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> His engine was still running...

http://tinyurl.com/2smpbn

"Article 30: General Safety
If a car stops on the track it shall be the duty of the marshals to
remove it as quickly as possible so that its presence does not
constitute a danger or hinder other competitors. If any mechanical
assistance results in the car rejoining the stewards may drop the
driver such number of grid positions as they consider appropriate if
the incident occurs during a practice session or exclude him from the
race.

Drivers can no longer expect to benefit by being returned to the track
via a recovery vehicle following an incident. This change has been made
in the obvious interests of safety. It discourages drivers from
remaining in stranded cars, and also means that officials and oncoming
drivers are not put at risk by a recovery vehicle carrying a car
towards the track rather than a safe area. The only exception is if the
mechanical assistance involves a car stranded on the grid being given a
tow to the pit lane, from where, as before, it will be allowed to
rejoin the race."

--
Formula England? "It's nonsense, of the most obvious bigoted sort."

 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by CatharticF » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:11:14



Quote:
> His engine was still running...

Thankfully this is no longer allowed, outside assistance cannot be used
anymore. But despite Hamilton benefitting and Massa not it's absolutely the
right thing to do.

--
CatharticF1

'What you thought was freedom is just greed'

 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by Ped Xin » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:16:52



Quote:
> Thankfully this is no longer allowed, outside assistance cannot be
> used anymore. But despite Hamilton benefitting and Massa not it's
> absolutely the right thing to do.

Did you have a problem with it when it benefited Schumacher?
 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by emuLOA » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:17:12


Quote:

> > His engine was still running...

> Thankfully this is no longer allowed, outside assistance cannot be used
> anymore. But despite Hamilton benefitting and Massa not it's absolutely the
> right thing to do.

> --
> CatharticF1

> 'What you thought was freedom is just greed'

yeah, i'd much rather loose a championship than a couple of drivers...
absurd that it was allowed in the first place, but I guess it's one of
those things noone thought about before someone actually did it.
 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by The Cunt of Monte Crist » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:41:12


Quote:
> His engine was still running...

Because he is not Hamilton. Do you really have to ask that or are you
just taking the mickey?.
 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by fort » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:03:49

Quote:



>> His engine was still running...

> Thankfully this is no longer allowed, outside assistance cannot be used
> anymore. But despite Hamilton benefitting and Massa not it's absolutely the
> right thing to do.

Damn bastards at Le Mans had the right idea all along...

--
"We always have hope of winning, because the others might lose..."

Monsieur Orgini - The Grand Prix of Gibraltar

 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by a_Fran » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:35:50

Quote:



>> Thankfully this is no longer allowed, outside assistance cannot be
>> used anymore. But despite Hamilton benefitting and Massa not it's
>> absolutely the right thing to do.

>Did you have a problem with it when it benefited Schumacher?

Heh.. that was different. ;-)

--

Regards, Frank

 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by CatharticF » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:23:43


140.99.99.130:

Quote:


>> Thankfully this is no longer allowed, outside assistance cannot be
>> used anymore. But despite Hamilton benefitting and Massa not it's
>> absolutely the right thing to do.

> Did you have a problem with it when it benefited Schumacher?

Did you have a problem with it when it helped Lewis?
Were you cursing the marshals in China for not pushing him out?

--
CatharticF1

'What you thought was freedom is just greed'

 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by Bob Duber » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:04:43


Quote:

> 140.99.99.130:



> >> Thankfully this is no longer allowed, outside assistance cannot be
> >> used anymore. But despite Hamilton benefitting and Massa not it's
> >> absolutely the right thing to do.

> > Did you have a problem with it when it benefited Schumacher?

> Did you have a problem with it when it helped Lewis?

ROFL!

It was, after all and as usual, you that got on your high horse about
a specific driver getting assistance from a crane.

If your objection is on a matter of principle, on what you think is
and isn't fair, then it should be fairly easy to answer the question.

 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by Paul- » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:33:53

Quote:


> 140.99.99.130:



> >> Thankfully this is no longer allowed, outside assistance cannot be
> >> used anymore. But despite Hamilton benefitting and Massa not it's
> >> absolutely the right thing to do.

> > Did you have a problem with it when it benefited Schumacher?

> Did you have a problem with it when it helped Lewis?
> Were you cursing the marshals in China for not pushing him out?

Once again Brenda refuses to answer a straight question.

No surprise there. If I have a spare moment I'll trawl through his posts at the
time, but I doubt there'll be any criticism of Schumacher/Ferrari over that
incident.

Of course Brenda could save me the time by answering the question honestly, but
that's not really what he does, is it?

--
Paul-B

 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by RzR » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:58:51


Quote:

>> His engine was still running...

> Because he is not Hamilton. Do you really have to ask that or are you
> just taking the mickey?.

didnt see the crane in china, and that would have clinched the championship
 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by Bob Duber » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:01:55


Quote:
> His engine was still running...

It does surprise me (or maybe it doesn't) that nobody has considered
the notion that there may have been rule changes between the 2007 and
2008 seasons.
 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by The Cunt of Monte Crist » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:57:15


Quote:


> >> His engine was still running...

> > Because he is not Hamilton. Do you really have to ask that or are you
> > just taking the mickey?.

> didnt see the crane in china, and that would have clinched the championship

Because the chinese don't give a rat's ass about Hamilton or the
Brirtish. They think they all look alike. Just the fact they respected
the lease on Hong Kong is some sort of a miracle.
 
 
 

Why didn't the 'crane' pick up Massa?

Post by The Wizar » Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:06:53


Quote:

>> His engine was still running...

> It does surprise me (or maybe it doesn't) that nobody has considered
> the notion that there may have been rule changes between the 2007 and
> 2008 seasons.

Quite, Brundle mentioned *No mechanical assistance allowed* this year.

Pushing via marshalls is'nt mechanical though, So I assume the FIA left that
in for the like of Schumacher!

Did'nt hear many tifauxi moaning when he was pushed back on track.