Why Schumacher won't win.

Why Schumacher won't win.

Post by Manni Stru » Mon, 13 Nov 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>If all of you think that a Schumacher/Ferrari partnership is going to be
>invinable , think again. We're going to see a situation where a driver
>leaves a team that was totally built around him and go to another where
>it isn't. Similar to McLaren and Senna I hear you say. Indeed, I think
>that neiter the Benetton pairing of Alesi and Berger or Schumacher at
>Ferrairi will have what it takes to suceed. Who's for the Championship
>then? Well, it's got to be Hill hasn't it?

Yeah, like it had the last two years!  :-)
 
 
 

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Post by C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAI » Mon, 13 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Ferarri have finished about 3 races this year, why should the car be
any more reliable with Schumacher at the wheel?

I'VE MADE MY POINT!

 
 
 

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Post by Tony Will » Mon, 13 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

> Ferarri have finished about 3 races this year, why should the car be
> any more reliable with Schumacher at the wheel?

Yep, Ferrari has put previous world champs in their place - remember
that Prost quit (or was fired, - I can't quite remember) in order to
get away from them a few years ago. The pre-world champ Mansell
also had problems.

Commenting on Ferrari reliability during the race today, J. Palmer
said he wouldn't be surprised to see Berger's car fail fairly soon,
and lo and behold, the dreaded blue smoke appeared from Berger's
engine a few laps later.

Tony

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Post by John Wa » Mon, 13 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>Ferarri have finished about 3 races this year, why should the car be
>any more reliable with Schumacher at the wheel?
>I'VE MADE MY POINT!

your right, it won`t and it will also take Schumacher 2 years to get the Ferrari
how he like it, just like it did at Benetton, but I don`t think the Tifosi will
be prepared to wait that long especially when they see there beloved Alesi
winning races in the Benetton.

let`s face it Schumacher is on his way down.

Good luck Eddie Irvine.

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Post by Chris Lebe » Mon, 13 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Damon Hill eh?

NNNNooo... I don't think so!
Damon is out of place with a real Formula 1team.

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Post by David Shephe » Tue, 14 Nov 1995 04:00:00

: Ferarri have finished about 3 races this year, why should the car be
: any more reliable with Schumacher at the wheel?

: I'VE MADE MY POINT!

1) new engine

2) part of Ferraris belief in MS is that he has an ability to
motivate the team around him

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Post by Bronco Oostermeije » Tue, 14 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Quote:


>>If all of you think that a Schumacher/Ferrari partnership is going to be
>>invinable , think again. We're going to see a situation where a driver
>>leaves a team that was totally built around him and go to another where
>>it isn't. Similar to McLaren and Senna I hear you say. Indeed, I think
>>that neiter the Benetton pairing of Alesi and Berger or Schumacher at
>>Ferrairi will have what it takes to suceed. Who's for the Championship
>>then? Well, it's got to be Hill hasn't it?

>Yeah, like it had the last two years!  :-)

I quess it like your salary: you deserve a $1m, but yuo'll never get it.

 
 
 

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Post by Dave Eat » Wed, 15 Nov 1995 04:00:00

In article on Sun, 12 Nov 1995 23:12:49 GMT, John Ward says...

Quote:

>let`s face it Schumacher is on his way down.

>   John A Ward.       It`s Personal

yup, the evidence is overwhelming.  john, you're a genius.

-dave.

 
 
 

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Post by Rafa » Wed, 15 Nov 1995 04:00:00


Quote:


>: Ferarri have finished about 3 races this year, why should the car be
>: any more reliable with Schumacher at the wheel?

>: I'VE MADE MY POINT!

>1) new engine

>2) part of Ferraris belief in MS is that he has an ability to
>motivate the team around him

 The new engine will probably be less reliable than the one they used
this year. I wouldnt trust anything ferrari develops. And schumacher
is shit..he couldnt motivate shit to smell.

                        to all schumi fans: you guys are idiots

 
 
 

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Post by Leonard Schmi » Thu, 16 Nov 1995 04:00:00

|> : Ferarri have finished about 3 races this year, why should the car be
|> : any more reliable with Schumacher at the wheel?
|>
|> : I'VE MADE MY POINT!
|>
The only point you made is you don't know the facts.  Ferrari finished in
the points the first 10 races this year plus 3 additional races for a
total of 13 point finishes out of 17 races.  Granted this was not all by the
same driver but still reliable enough to win a race (Alesi).

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Post by Ms N Koh » Fri, 17 Nov 1995 04:00:00


Quote:


>>: Ferarri have finished about 3 races this year, why should the car be
>>: any more reliable with Schumacher at the wheel?

>>: I'VE MADE MY POINT!

>>1) new engine

>>2) part of Ferraris belief in MS is that he has an ability to
>>motivate the team around him

> The new engine will probably be less reliable than the one they used
>this year. I wouldnt trust anything ferrari develops. And schumacher
>is shit..he couldnt motivate shit to smell.
>                    to all schumi fans: you guys are idiots

I think not. Schumi is brilliant and you know it. You only have to look at
the incredible spirit in the Bennetton team this past season to realise that
Michael's charisma and motivation has been an enormous contributing factor.
His psychological strength has been as much part of his world title winning
strategy as his incredible driving skills.
Let's not go overboard and say that he WILL win the championship next year
when he drives for Ferrari - nobody is in a position to predict - but I
don't think that this is the last we'll be seeing of MS on the podium.
Foul-mouthing the man is not going to stop him .... nor is it going to stop
me being a Schumi fan!
Cheers,
Nikki
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Post by dabis.. » Fri, 17 Nov 1995 04:00:00


:>>The only point you made is you don't know the facts.  Ferrari finished in
:>>the points the first 10 races this year plus 3 additional races for a
:>>total of 13 point finishes out of 17 races.  Granted this was not all by the
:>>same driver but still reliable enough to win a race (Alesi).
:>
:>Ferrari reliability is legendary and non-existent. I can see no reason
:>why a new engine is going to be any better. Ok, it'll rev a liilte less
:>which might help, but there problems it must be down to engineering standards. They obviously don't build enough headroom into their=
:> operating windows to allow for a single imperfection. Look at Monza.
:>They had the first Ferrari 1-2 since '89(?) and they blew it. Even when the engines hold out they have problems with other areas. Th=
:>ey're trying to compensate by getting Schumacher in which might well end in disaster.
:>He's never had to endure an unreliably car. He was starting to crack at
:>the begining of this season when the Benetton was clearly bad, but Benetton got it sorted before he really let loose, but you could =
:>see it comming. He was at that no comment stage, which tends to precede the kind of outburst Ferrari regularly had to deal with.
:>
:>I don't wish Ferrari any luck. They blew their drivers, who had put up with their ***engineering for years and deserved some pay b=
:>eck, and spent and obsene amount of money on Schumacher, the kind of money that could have kept Simtek in.
:>
I want to see Schumacher really crack. I've been a Ferrari fan for a long time, but not so much
lately. Their sacking of Lauda didn't sit well with me, nor do I agree with the kind of money they
threw at Schumacher, especially given his penchant for pulling a "Prost" and dictating who can and
can't be 2nd driver (specifically Frentzen). I know the V10 is a lighter design from the standpoint
of block construction than Goto has traditionally used for his Honda blocks when at McLaren. The
new engine plus new chassis and gearbox designs will not portend well for him finishing races.
It will be interesting to see how the first few races go. I must admit I don't understand him leaving
Benetton, even for the bucks. I'm sure Flavio and Mild Seven and Renault would've made him a
decent offer to stay. If Ferrari does get reliable and faster, we could be in for another boring year,
the only e***ment being provided by who else makes it onto the podium.
 
 
 

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Post by Damjan Majstorovi » Fri, 17 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Quote:
>Ferrari reliability is legendary and non-existent. I can see no reason
>why a new engine is going to be any better. Ok, it'll rev a liilte less
>which might help, but there problems it must be down to engineering standards. They obviously don't build enough headroom into their=
> operating windows to allow for a single imperfection. Look at Monza.
>They had the first Ferrari 1-2 since '89(?) and they blew it. Even when the engines hold out they have problems with other areas. Th=
>ey're trying to compensate by getting Schumacher in which might well end in disaster.
>He's never had to endure an unreliably car. He was starting to crack at
>the begining of this season when the Benetton was clearly bad, but Benetton got it sorted before he really let loose, but you could =
>see it comming. He was at that no comment stage, which tends to precede the kind of outburst Ferrari regularly had to deal with.

>I don't wish Ferrari any luck. They blew their drivers, who had put up with their ***engineering for years and deserved some pay b=
>eck, and spent and obsene amount of money on Schumacher, the kind of money that could have kept Simtek in.

 I completely agree with you (not wishing Ferrari any luck) But re: reliability
I would like
to point out the begging of this season. The cars were very good and they
could compete with Williams and Benetton cars. But later in the season where
both W and B got better (especially B) they got worse. This is hardly possible
I think that they figuered that there is no way that either Alesi nor Berger
would win the champ amd therefore decided to concentrate more on the next 96
season (and even if they did have a chance of winning WC I am not sure if
that's exectly what Ferrari would want given that they are giving so much
***ing money to MS). So I think that after all next season wont be that bad
for Ferrari and for Michael.

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Post by Ron Thornt » Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Re: Why Schumacher won't


R>Subject: Re: Why Schumacher won't win.
R>

R>Shepherd) say s:
R>>
R>>: Ferarri have finished about 3 races this year, why should the car
R>>: be  any more reliable with Schumacher at the wheel?
R>>
R>>: I'VE MADE MY POINT!
R>>
R>>1) new engine
R>>
R>>2) part of Ferraris belief in MS is that he has an ability to
R>>motivate the team around him
R>>
R> The new engine will probably be less reliable than the one they used
R>this year. I wouldnt trust anything ferrari develops. And schumacher
R>is shit..he couldnt motivate shit to smell.
R>
R>                        to all schumi fans: you guys are idiots
R>                                      

I really hate repyling to people like you as it is normally a waste of
time and effort and you probably don't have the brain cells to
understand logic anyway!

If only I could send a drawing with this mail.

Kiss my (.) !!

Ron Thornton
Wellington, New Zealand

11/17/95 2:25PM +1300 GMT
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