Salo fans vs. Hakkinen fans

Salo fans vs. Hakkinen fans

Post by Jari Kok » Mon, 10 Apr 1995 04:00:00


John Watson mentioned on Eurosport that there is some "competition"
between the Hakkinen fans and Salo fans in Finland and that it is pretty
fierce. Can anyone please point out where I can participate as a Hakkinen
fan as it sounds like great fun.

Seriously though, I think Salo is a very talented guy who will do very
well this year, and it is a pity that he had to go over to Japan for so
many years when Hakkinen got into McLaren almost at once after they left
the British F3.

I wonder where Mr. Watson got the idea? (If it was Lehto fans vs. Hakkinen
fans then I'd understand :)

Jari

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Post by kevi » Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:00:00


|> > John Watson mentioned on Eurosport that there is some "competition"
|> > between the Hakkinen fans and Salo fans in Finland and that it is pretty
|> > fierce. Can anyone please point out where I can participate as a Hakkinen
|> > fan as it sounds like great fun.
|>
|> Well I won't be joining any Hakkinen fan clubs; he did another
|> 'hochenheim' to Eddie Irvine today.

I still reckon Hakkinen is the most overrated F1 driver, god knows why
Ron's still keeping him. Yes, he's fast but his inconsistency and
mental blocks don't seem to be going away. Salo seems very promising.

Kevin.

 
 
 

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Post by Tony Will » Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
> John Watson mentioned on Eurosport that there is some "competition"
> between the Hakkinen fans and Salo fans in Finland and that it is pretty
> fierce. Can anyone please point out where I can participate as a Hakkinen
> fan as it sounds like great fun.

Well I won't be joining any Hakkinen fan clubs; he did another
'hochenheim' to Eddie Irvine today.

Tony

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Post by Zonk » Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:00:00



Quote:

>|> Well I won't be joining any Hakkinen fan clubs; he did another
>|> 'hochenheim' to Eddie Irvine today.

>I still reckon Hakkinen is the most overrated F1 driver, god knows why
>Ron's still keeping him. Yes, he's fast but his inconsistency and
>mental blocks don't seem to be going away. Salo seems very promising.

are we talking about the same guy who spun at interlagos while in 3rd place
when under pressure?
or maybe the guy who supposedly attacked A.suzuki at argentina?

It seems both the Mika's can get wild.....


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Post by Don Grunba » Fri, 14 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

> Salo seems very promising.

>are we talking about the same guy who spun at interlagos while in 3rd place
>when under pressure?

You mean while driving with one arm, and reaching across the***pit
to change gear? Yes, that's the same guy.

As for Suzuki, if you were taken out by somebody who was three or
more laps behind you when you were fourth, I think you _might_ be
a tad upset.

:-)

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Post by Bernard McPha » Fri, 14 Apr 1995 04:00:00

|>
|> As for Suzuki, if you were taken out by somebody who was three or
|> more laps behind you when you were fourth, I think you _might_ be
|> a tad upset.
|>
...One lap behind according to official timing.  I've wondered about
this incident: Schu, Hill, Alesi all passed Suzuki cleanly more than
once.  Salo was not able to.  Salo was not going to threaten Schu, and
I am not sure whether he was pressured by Frentzen at that point but I
don't think so.  So why did he risk it at a bad spot?  

Furthermore, Salo's comments and behaviour showed immaturity.  Would
Coulthard, for example, have behaved this way?  No! So while I think
Salo's got loads of talent -- which is great because I really want
Yamaha (and Tyrell and Judd) to do well this season -- I think he's
still immature in F-1 terms.  And that loses races.

I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Hakkinen in the making...
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Post by Jani Patan » Fri, 14 Apr 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

> Well I won't be joining any Hakkinen fan clubs; he did another
> 'hochenheim' to Eddie Irvine today.

Wasn't it Eddie Irvine who did another 'Monza' ?

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Post by Tuomo Huttun » Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>...One lap behind according to official timing.  I've wondered about
>this incident: Schu, Hill, Alesi all passed Suzuki cleanly more than
>once.  Salo was not able to.  Salo was not going to threaten Schu, and
>I am not sure whether he was pressured by Frentzen at that point but I
>don't think so.  So why did he risk it at a bad spot?  

Salo was catching Herbert and would have been able to challenge him.
Because of Suzuki Herbert was pulling away and with the number of
laps decreasing Salo really was in a hurry. He drove quite many
laps trying to pass Suzuki who almost took him out a couple of
times before he actually did it.

Quote:
>Furthermore, Salo's comments and behaviour showed immaturity.
> Would Coulthard, for example, have behaved this way?  No! So while I think

I think any driver in that situation would have been completely pissed
off. Salo showed restraint, he didn't hit Suzuki.

/Thut

 
 
 

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Post by Juho A Tunke » Wed, 19 Apr 1995 04:00:00


: |>
: |> As for Suzuki, if you were taken out by somebody who was three or
: |> more laps behind you when you were fourth, I think you _might_ be
: |> a tad upset.
: |>
: ...One lap behind according to official timing.  I've wondered about
: this incident: Schu, Hill, Alesi all passed Suzuki cleanly more than
: once.  Salo was not able to.  Salo was not going to threaten Schu, and
: I am not sure whether he was pressured by Frentzen at that point but I
: don't think so.  So why did he risk it at a bad spot?  

 I don't think he risked much at all. Unless overtaking is considered
a risk in and of itself. Suzuki could not handle the situation/his car
and shit happened. End of story.

: Furthermore, Salo's comments and behaviour showed immaturity.  Would
: Coulthard, for example, have behaved this way?  No! So while I think
: Salo's got loads of talent -- which is great because I really want
: Yamaha (and Tyrell and Judd) to do well this season -- I think he's
: still immature in F-1 terms.  And that loses races.

 Or maybe it won't. Depends on how it affects his driving, which is,
after all, what matters. I got the feeling that he felt like the past years
of desperation in Japan were back to haunt him in the form of
Mr.Suzuki.. heh. My impression is that he is an immensely talented
driver who is sick and tired of waiting for his opportunity and just
takes it any time it's up for grabs. But then, a rookie season is a
rookie season is a rookie season... :-)

: I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Hakkinen in the making...

 Oh that would be such a shame wouldn't it. In a top team earning top
dollar. Seriously though, I can see where that comment came from and
say this. Racing in F1 is Hakkinen's life, period. Has been so for a
number of years, he makes no bones about it himself. _Nothing_ comes
between him and racing and apparently, that approach can have its down
sides as well. Salo on the other hand has a girlfriend, hobbies,
experience, quite a personality.
 I don't see many similarities between the two other than they're both
blond Finns called Mika...

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Post by Jukka Sirv » Thu, 20 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>...One lap behind according to official timing.  I've wondered about
>this incident: Schu, Hill, Alesi all passed Suzuki cleanly more than
>once.  Salo was not able to.  

 Lotus was faster than Tyrrell on straights, which made passing very
 difficult for Salo (On turns Lotus was clearly slower). Bennetton,
 Williams and Ferrari have all more hp than Tyrrell.

Quote:
>Salo was not going to threaten Schu, and I am not sure whether he was
>pressured by Frentzen at that point but I don't think so.  So why did
>he risk it at a bad spot?  

 At a bad spot ?? Salo tried pass Suzuki where it was possible ! Salo
 drove several laps right behind Suzuki, so I don't think he picked up that
 spot by chance. Remember that there was still 1/3 of the race left.

 Yes, Salo did take a risk when trying to pass Suzuki, and he was even
 very aware of it. In fact, he did not want to do it ! Salo commented after
 the race, that he saw clearly that Suzuki was not looking at the mirrors !
 This is why he talked to pits thru radio asking for a blue flag for Suzuki.
 He also said that Suzuki would take him out, if he had to try passing !
 After two laps it happened, indeed. (Wonder, if Suzuki didn't look at the
 mirrors, because he was too focused on his braking problem ?).

Quote:
>Furthermore, Salo's comments and behaviour showed immaturity.  Would
>Coulthard, for example, have behaved this way?  No!

 Would you like to guess, how Senna would have behaved ? And would you
 call him immature ?

Quote:
>bernard - BNR does not share my opinions; would they even want to?


 
 
 

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Post by Ralf Morgenthaler » Thu, 20 Apr 1995 04:00:00

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|> Well I won't be joining any Hakkinen fan clubs; he did another
|> 'hochenheim' to Eddie Irvine today.
    ^^^^^^^^^^
What's this ?? Anything to do with Hoc_k_enheim(Germany)?

CU      Ralf

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