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Williams Press Announcement - Mon 29th at Noon

Post by Dominic Ijich » Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:00:00


Quote:


> : Come on, Michael, you can do it.  Beat the ego-maniac.

> Are you inferring that Mikey is *not* an egomaniac? As Mark about that
> one. (Note to Carl: they're all egomaniacs. If they weren't, they wouldn't
> be where they are. Self deprecation and humility does not get one a drive
> in F1).

Oh, I don't know - the Mighty Warrior has one!!  (OK, maybe that *does* have
something to do with his wife..) Even if he can't drive an F1 car for shit,
he couldn't be a nicer bloke, and didn't he get the world record recently for
climbing the Matterhorn without O2?, and he is one of the most humble people
I have ever heard speaking - very Japanese.  IIRC, he currently has a Morris
Minor, and his dream car is a Mini?! (Maybe the other way round, whatever)

dom

 
 
 

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Post by ScrewJunkmailer » Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Ah now comes a time where the vultures in the world should be allowed to
*** out a person in order to make big money from them and not share in
the profits.. Sounds like the Paparazzi!

Sure it sounds arrogant, but from a business point of view, I think it
looks damn smart. If Villeneuve wants to endorse a product, then that
should be his choice to make, not cheap opportunist that will  drop him
when these days change to the next. This worlds sadly or greatly is about
financial well being, has been for centuries. Remember what makes the
world go round..

Shumacher sold out for what some say is nearly 90 MIllion U.S. a year. 30
from Ferrari, the the balance from the shoe endor***ts, and other
numerous products that he endorses..

Either way, they both are out to get their fair share..

Quote:

> Williams confirm HH Frentzen and Villeneuve as their drivers for 1998.
> Hardly a surprise.

> Will JV be one of the least worthy/endearing F1 WC's of recent time?
> Inheriting more wins than lady luck should have the grace to
> distribute.  Refusing his name/'image' to be used in latest F1 '97
> game?   Having his management force themed restaurants/similar to rip
> down any pictures bearing his image!  What next, scour every kids
> bedroom and force the parents to rip down/remove areas of pictures
> showing this god-like man.

> Maybe he is of abbo descent and believes pictures of him destroy his
> soul, one by one ...

> Does he/his management not realise it is the mere mortals who buy such
> games, pictures, etc, who are obsessive about F1 and so feed the
> frenzied circus and silly finances world of F1 - and he won't even let
> his name be used!?  Pitiful and appalling attitude.  Little twerp.

> Come on, Michael, you can do it.  Beat the ego-maniac.  Let's hope for
> rain at Suzuka.

> --
> Carl


 
 
 

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Post by Carl R Griffit » Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Williams confirm HH Frentzen and Villeneuve as their drivers for 1998.
Hardly a surprise.

Will JV be one of the least worthy/endearing F1 WC's of recent time?
Inheriting more wins than lady luck should have the grace to
distribute.  Refusing his name/'image' to be used in latest F1 '97
game?   Having his management force themed restaurants/similar to rip
down any pictures bearing his image!  What next, scour every kids
bedroom and force the parents to rip down/remove areas of pictures
showing this god-like man.

Maybe he is of abbo descent and believes pictures of him destroy his
soul, one by one ...

Does he/his management not realise it is the mere mortals who buy such
games, pictures, etc, who are obsessive about F1 and so feed the
frenzied circus and silly finances world of F1 - and he won't even let
his name be used!?  Pitiful and appalling attitude.  Little twerp.

Come on, Michael, you can do it.  Beat the ego-maniac.  Let's hope for
rain at Suzuka.

--
Carl

 
 
 

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Post by Barry Posne » Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:00:00


: Come on, Michael, you can do it.  Beat the ego-maniac.

Are you inferring that Mikey is *not* an egomaniac? As Mark about that
one. (Note to Carl: they're all egomaniacs. If they weren't, they wouldn't
be where they are. Self deprecation and humility does not get one a drive
in F1).

bp/ed/ab/ca/eh?

 
 
 

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Post by Carl R Griffit » Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> : Come on, Michael, you can do it.  Beat the ego-maniac.

> Are you inferring that Mikey is *not* an egomaniac? As Mark about that

> one. (Note to Carl: they're all egomaniacs. If they weren't, they
> wouldn't
> be where they are. Self deprecation and humility does not get one a
> drive
> in F1).

Certainly, MS has his personality faults, don't we all - but he does
(never thought I'd say this) have a certain charm and has achieved an
immense amount in F1 and so has some 'right' to his presence.
Villeneuve has a severe case of ego-overload (via Pollock, maybe) by
working so hard at appearing enigmatic, aloof, cool and complex.  His
lack of compliance in interviews, etc, reflects his over-blown
self-esteem.

The example of refusing his name to be allowed in F1 games, etc is
testimony to his frail inner-self.

Humility is rare in this game (well, in life it's rare, come to think of
it) but these chaps are so fortunate to do what they do and be so well
rewarded that they should show some good grace - many of them do.

From all the folks I know who follow F1 actively and/or passively I have
never known such a driver (as Villeneuve) to be so poorly rated, as a
character.

Will be a sad day when he lifts the WC in a couple of weeks (unless it
rains).

Nice guys do win, sometimes.  Hill, Herbert, Hakkinen (whoops, shurely
shome mishtake there?!)

Quote:
> bp/ed/ab/ca/eh?

http://wibblewibble.eek.net/id.htm

--
Carl

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Connol » Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>Certainly, MS has his personality faults, don't we all - but he does
>(never thought I'd say this) have a certain charm

Charm is highly subjective.  Personally I he ranks only slightly above
Medusa.

Quote:
>Villeneuve has a severe case of ego-overload (via Pollock, maybe) by
>working so hard at appearing enigmatic, aloof, cool and complex.  His
>lack of compliance in interviews, etc, reflects his over-blown
>self-esteem.

I recall listening to a BBC Radio 5 profile of him.  Seemed like a
nice enough guy to me.

Quote:
>The example of refusing his name to be allowed in F1 games, etc is
>testimony to his frail inner-self.

Er,  right.

Quote:
>From all the folks I know who follow F1 actively and/or passively I have
>never known such a driver (as Villeneuve) to be so poorly rated, as a
>character.

I wonder is this a matter of perspective.  I live in Ireland (the
spiritual and historical home of Formula 1  :) .  Of the F1 fans I
know,  MS is repected by all,  disliked by most and but embraced by
Ferrari fans.

Quote:
>Will be a sad day when he lifts the WC in a couple of weeks (unless it
>rains).

Personally,  I'll be happy for him.  Whoever scores the most points
deserved the championship.

Michael.

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" - Emerson

 
 
 

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Post by Serge Ah-He » Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Williams confirm HH Frentzen and Villeneuve as their drivers for 1998.
> Hardly a surprise.

> Will JV be one of the least worthy/endearing F1 WC's of recent time?

World Champion (if he wins it) in his 2nd season? that is pretty good to
me. Gets the pole and comes in 2nd in his first F1 race ever.... when
was the last time that happened! Wins in his first season... Competitive
til the last race in 96... He may be no Senna or Prost, but he is still
a good driver...

Quote:
> Inheriting more wins than lady luck should have the grace to

That's racing! Racing is not only about the driver , but on the teams,
their efforts in testing, technology development etc... Sure I agree
that the Mercedes has a great engine, but they hardly test those
things... well not as intensively as Renault.

Quote:
> distribute.  Refusing his name/'image' to be used in latest F1 '97
> game?   Having his management force themed restaurants/similar to rip
> down any pictures bearing his image!  What next, scour every kids
> bedroom and force the parents to rip down/remove areas of pictures
> showing this god-like man.

> Maybe he is of abbo descent and believes pictures of him destroy his
> soul, one by one ...

> Does he/his management not realise it is the mere mortals who buy such
> games, pictures, etc, who are obsessive about F1 and so feed the
> frenzied circus and silly finances world of F1 - and he won't even let
> his name be used!?  Pitiful and appalling attitude.  Little twerp.

What don't we keep racing on the track! What Villeneuve or other drivers
do outside of the track is not my business...

Quote:

> Come on, Michael, you can do it.  Beat the ego-maniac.  Let's hope for
> rain at Suzuka.

Not a chance :)
Quote:
> --
> Carl

 
 
 

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Post by David Bisho » Thu, 02 Oct 1997 04:00:00



Quote:


> > : Come on, Michael, you can do it.  Beat the ego-maniac.

> > Are you inferring that Mikey is *not* an egomaniac? As Mark about that

> > one. (Note to Carl: they're all egomaniacs. If they weren't, they
> > wouldn't
> > be where they are. Self deprecation and humility does not get one a
> > drive
> > in F1).

> Certainly, MS has his personality faults, don't we all - but he does
> (never thought I'd say this) have a certain charm and has achieved an
> immense amount in F1 and so has some 'right' to his presence.
> Villeneuve has a severe case of ego-overload (via Pollock, maybe) by
> working so hard at appearing enigmatic, aloof, cool and complex.  His
> lack of compliance in interviews, etc, reflects his over-blown
> self-esteem.

I've spoken to people on or associated with the Ferrari team and
understand Michael to be an extremely nice guy, calm, and very
accomodating to everyone.
I would not venture to say that Jacques himself in person isn't a nice
guy, but look at the way the two of them come off in public. Quite the
difference.

Quote:
> The example of refusing his name to be allowed in F1 games, etc is
> testimony to his frail inner-self.

or perhaps greed of a nature I've never seen. Michael, the highest paid
driver in F1, doesn't charge for his image or his name in computer games

Quote:
> Humility is rare in this game (well, in life it's rare, come to think of
> it) but these chaps are so fortunate to do what they do and be so well
> rewarded that they should show some good grace - many of them do.

Mika Hakkinen, Johnny Herbert, Rubens Barrichello, Gerhard Berger, Damon
Hill,
David Coulthard... I can go on and on...
my list of 'nice' guys, who show some humility, gratitude that they are
where
they are, and offer much in the way of good grace

Quote:
> From all the folks I know who follow F1 actively and/or passively I have
> never known such a driver (as Villeneuve) to be so poorly rated, as a
> character.

but there are some who believe that those of us who feel that way or rate
Jacques poorly as a character are jealous ? That's the farthest thing from
the truth. It's his behaviour (NOT the fact that he's driving a Williams
and may
win the title, both from some good drives but also from extraordinary luck)
that
has so put me off my breakfast

Quote:
> Will be a sad day when he lifts the WC in a couple of weeks (unless it
> rains).

You'll find no-one more sad, much of my anger about the man is disippating
as I begin to accept it may happen, but sadness, that will last until
someone
else assumes #1 at the end of the 98 season

Quote:
> Nice guys do win, sometimes.  Hill, Herbert, Hakkinen (whoops, shurely
> shome mishtake there?!)

No Way ! Mika WILL win, and when it starts, it will happen often. He and
David (my opinion, and hope) will finish 1/2 often in 98...

Thank you Carl, you've made my day

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Rou » Fri, 03 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

[snip]

>Maybe he is of abbo descent and believes pictures of him destroy his
>soul, one by one ...

A shining example of cultural sensitivity (not). Try the word 'aboriginal'
instead, but if you are referring to pre-European Australian natives, they
won't be upset if you refer to them as Kooris.
[snip]
 
 
 

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Post by Finnerty Padraig » Fri, 03 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> From all the folks I know who follow F1 actively and/or passively I have
> never known such a driver (as Villeneuve) to be so poorly rated, as a
> character.

although I disagree with you, there is truth in what you say.
let me rephrase your sentence slightly..

'I have never known a driver (as Villeneuve) to be so poorly *rated*, as a
 character'

having read and heard all reports, I should come to the conclusion that
JV *is* an egomaniac, narcissistic prima donna etc. etc.

However, he appeared on a chat show here in Ireland some time back and
I thought he was perfectly charming and so did the audience, judging by
their reaction.

Now, either he put on a very good facade that night or he is
grossly misrepresented by the media. Sure, he made some antagonistic
comments during the year, said the unpopular things, but you can't
criticise him for being honest.

I think there are a lot more fickle and devious ppl in F1 than
Jacques Villeneuve. Maybe they just don't wear their heart on their
sleeve in quite the same manner that he does.

look, no .ca !

Padraig.
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Post by Ken Fletche » Fri, 03 Oct 1997 04:00:00

 >Now, either he put on a very good facade that night or he is

Quote:
>grossly misrepresented by the media.

grossly misrepresented here in rasf1, the media is likely fairer to JV.
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Post by //\^_^/ » Sun, 05 Oct 1997 04:00:00

On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:05:48 GMT, Finnerty Padraig G

Quote:

>:()having read and heard all reports, I should come to the conclusion that
>:()JV *is* an egomaniac, narcissistic prima donna etc. etc.
>:()
>:()However, he appeared on a chat show here in Ireland some time back and
>:()I thought he was perfectly charming and so did the audience, judging by
>:()their reaction.

over the years i have seen seville villeneuve interviewed.

i have seen gilles villeneuve interviewed.

i have seen joanne villeneuve interviewed.

i have seen uncle jaques villeneuve interviewed.

finally there is jacques himself, canadians probably see more of him
than anyone else.

they ALL come across that way. by all who knew him gilles was
described as the most honest person they ever knew. IT'S NOT AN ACT.
(jody shekter (sp?) used the words "genuine person").

i can't believe the younger fell as far from the tree as the
anti-villeneuve nuts here would have us believe.

Quote:
>:()Now, either he put on a very good facade that night or he is
>:()grossly misrepresented by the media.

the media always present a story in it's most dramatic light.

Quote:
>:() Sure, he made some antagonistic
>:()comments during the year, said the unpopular things, but you can't
>:()criticise him for being honest.

if jacques is honest then the rest are either less aware or they are
prostituting themselves. take your pick, because i believe jacques is
honest if nothing else.

Quote:
>:()I think there are a lot more fickle and devious ppl in F1 than
>:()Jacques Villeneuve.

fickle... that's the word i've had a mental block about for days.
several have expressed this here quite openly. saying that they used
to like him... maybe again later (if he wins the title i think they
mean). thin! very thin!

Quote:
>:() Maybe they just don't wear their heart on their
>:()sleeve in quite the same manner that he does.

you are kinder than i.

Quote:
>:()look, no .ca !

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