Scumacher Snr opens his mouth again

Scumacher Snr opens his mouth again

Post by Tjar » Sun, 29 Jun 1997 04:00:00



schreibt:
[...]

Quote:
>> Irvine is a strong character and still he
>> tells people how good Schumacher is.

>Well he would wouldn't he!  He can hardly say "Schu's crap, but 1.5
>seconds faster than me."

Of course not, but my point was that Eddie admits Schumacher
really IS so good rather than finding excuses. Eddie surely
is a fast driver, but he is no Schumacher and he knows AND
admits it. It won't be much of a spoiler, I think, when I say here
that I'm very happy about Eddie's performance in Magny-Cours
qualifying!

Quote:
>> Or is it maybe
>> 3. Brundle had more F1 experience than Schumacher in that time
>> and Schumacher was still at the beginning of his career and a little
>> bit younger? Add to that that Brundle is not a bad driver, too.

>I've never really known what to make of Brundle.  I have watched him for
>years and I'm still not sure of his abilities.  He seemed to be on the
>cusp of top-driverdom, and then fell into journey-man-land.

I don't know, too. But I've always regarded him as one of the better
drivers.
He may have had the problem that he had to change teams often
(at least since I watch F1). Thus he always had to adapt, which takes
time. But that he has been quite fast in all those teams shows that
he's a good driver. And he's no whiner, as far as I can tell.

Greetings,
Tjark Kalow

 
 
 

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Post by Jeff Yo » Sun, 29 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>REAL racecars run on slick tires!    (.)(.)

You mean like Williams at Monaco??  :)

--
Jeff.

... Reality is an uncomfortable condition
    brought about by low *** *** level...

 
 
 

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Post by Mr. Hot Pant » Sun, 29 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> >REAL racecars run on slick tires!    (.)(.)

> You mean like Williams at Monaco??  :)

TEE HEE HEE HEE! TEE HEE HEE HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAACK!  Oh my, I simply
must learn to curb my girlish giggling.  Ahh... I'd best get to bed in
preparation of getting up at 4:45 AM for the GP... (sob)  Why can't they
bring France closer to my time zone, darn it! (sniff)

Mr. Hot Pants
"Hey fellas... you guys wanna be my new friends?  Jacks... Gum... ?"
        --Chris Elliott

 
 
 

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Post by Jamie Dye » Tue, 01 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> ->> > I think it's sad that a team can't give equal equipment and
> ->> > preparation to both its drivers.

> I think it's unrealistic to expect absolutley equivelent treatment, what of the
> Arrows situation ?  Are you going to give Diniz the same level of development
> time that you would Hill ?

Obviously I don't mean absolutely equivalent to the last lap of
testing.  I mean both drivers should get equal (give or take a little)
testing for setups, and new parts should find there way onto car number
two within a race of them appearing on car number one.  F1 is supposed
to be for 2-car teams.  If a team can't prepare 2 cars, they shouldn't
be in it.

Quote:
> ->Yes, except then all the Schumacher fans tell us how wonderful he is,
> ->how much faster than his team mate he is, and how he has inferior
> ->equipment to Hill or Senna or Villeneuve when in reality he has the
> ->whole team behind him rather than just half of it.

> We'll accept that as dramatic hyperbole...

Which part of it do you consider exaggeration?  Most Schumacher fans
seem happy to admit that Benetton and Ferrari last year put their
efforts into Schumacher, not Schu and his team mate.

Quote:
> ->> The job for a team owner is first of all to get good results
> ->> for the team (and satisfy the sponsors) and definitely not
> ->> to give his drivers a good time. The drivers are doing a job
> ->> for the team and not the other way around.

> ->I understood it was a symbiotic relationship.

> You want it to be symbiotic relationship.

Do you mean that a driver willingly signs for a team at the detriment of
his career?  I assumed that a driver signed expecting that his career
would be furthered by the signing.  You possibly think of them as nomex
clad ***s?

Quote:
> ->"Sometimes I have to do things that prevent me from working on my own
> ->set-up, like tyre evaluations, so that Michael can spend his practice
> ->time on qualifying and race set-up, but that's not a big issue."

> I don't see a problem there, wouldn't that be SOP, for any team, if there was a
> tire question, or a setup difficulty ?

Possibly, but it's another small example of how Schumacher's job is made
easier to the detriment of his team mate.  

Quote:
> The only thing I know for sure about MS's contract is the spare car is always
> set to mirror the settings on his race car.  Given the disproportion in their
> salaries, and success histories, that hardly seems burdensome.  That one driver
> on a team gets priority for new bits, etc., is hardly limited to one team, and
> certainly wasn't created by Schumacher.

Johnny Herbert used to say that his race car was set up to Schumacher's
settings as well.  That would be more burdensome.

JamieD.

 
 
 

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Post by John D. Owe » Wed, 02 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Johnny Herbert used to say that his race car was set up to Schumacher's
> settings as well.  That would be more burdensome.

Ah, but that was because the rules at the time precluded use of the
spare car during qualifying, so if the starman himself did such an
unthinkable thing as park his own car securely in the kitty litter on
his first lap out of the pits, he could run back and commandeer his team
mate's car, secure in the knowledge that it was set up the same way.
Never mind that his team mate might find the set-up undrivable -- all
that mattered at Benettons was that the Great Schuey had his arse
covered.

JDO (cynicism entirely intentional)

 
 
 

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Post by Rui Pedro Mendes Salguei » Wed, 02 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> > >o< It shows what a driver can do against a Schumacher when Team
> > >o<Willy does not rig the rules.
> This is something that's puzzled me for a while - Why does Billtm118 (is
> that your name or your serial code?) describe Ferrari as Team Willy?  I
> thought Williams was Team Willy!

Willy as in Willy Weber, manager of both Schumachers. But it seems
that the right spelling is Willi Weber. (I found 34 uses of Willi
including an interview with him and only 15 uses of Willy.)

He is also know as Mr. 20%. (That is $5 million per year, these past 2
years just from the salary from Ferrari). And there is all the money from
merchandising, which is even more. And also, according to a web page I
found (http://www.senet.com.au/~lisab/more.htm) he also manages Claudia
Schiffer and someone named Michael Doohan. I doubt that last one.

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Post by Kalle Silfverber » Wed, 02 Jul 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> Willy as in Willy Weber, manager of both Schumachers. But it seems
> that the right spelling is Willi Weber. (I found 34 uses of Willi
> including an interview with him and only 15 uses of Willy.)

> He is also know as Mr. 20%. (That is $5 million per year, these past 2
> years just from the salary from Ferrari). And there is all the money from
> merchandising, which is even more. And also, according to a web page I
> found (http://www.senet.com.au/~lisab/more.htm) he also manages Claudia
> Schiffer and someone named Michael Doohan. I doubt that last one.

               ^^^^^^^
You're kidding right? F1 needs a personality like Mick. As for Mr.
Willi, he's nothing but a mafioso.

What was the fuzz some time ago about the FIA taking over the FIM?
Bernie has noticed that there's an international series with more
battles and passing on one race day than F1 has in an entire season?

KS
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Post by Mike Well » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00

That's Mick Doohan; a fantastic Aussie on a FIM bike. The best racing to watch
on TV in the world. Unfortunately, the sponsors (Rothman's) pulled the plug on
it where I am (2 years ago) and all I get now are results in the newspaper.
Pissed!!



Quote:


> > > >o< It shows what a driver can do against a Schumacher when Team
> > > >o<Willy does not rig the rules.

> > This is something that's puzzled me for a while - Why does Billtm118 (is
> > that your name or your serial code?) describe Ferrari as Team Willy?  I
> > thought Williams was Team Willy!

> Willy as in Willy Weber, manager of both Schumachers. But it seems
> that the right spelling is Willi Weber. (I found 34 uses of Willi
> including an interview with him and only 15 uses of Willy.)

> He is also know as Mr. 20%. (That is $5 million per year, these past 2
> years just from the salary from Ferrari). And there is all the money from
> merchandising, which is even more. And also, according to a web page I
> found (http://www.senet.com.au/~lisab/more.htm) he also manages Claudia
> Schiffer and someone named Michael Doohan. I doubt that last one.

> --
> http://www.mat.uc.pt/~rps/f1/     an ex-tifoso since 95/11/13

> .pt is Portugal| `Whom the gods love die young'-Menander (342-292 BC)
>         Europe |    Villeneuve 50-82, Toivonen 56-86, Senna 60-94

 
 
 

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Post by Jamie Dye » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> Willy as in Willy Weber, manager of both Schumachers. But it seems
> that the right spelling is Willi Weber. (I found 34 uses of Willi
> including an interview with him and only 15 uses of Willy.)

15 uses of willy?  I can think of two or three but fif***?

JamieD.

 
 
 

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Post by Ross Cleme » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00


: >
: > Willy as in Willy Weber, manager of both Schumachers. But it seems
: > that the right spelling is Willi Weber. (I found 34 uses of Willi
: > including an interview with him and only 15 uses of Willy.)
:
: 15 uses of willy?  I can think of two or three but fif***?

What? Do you mean to say that you haven't read '101 uses for a dead Willi'?

Cheers,

Ross-c

 
 
 

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Post by Mark J. Fruscian » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00

->> Willy as in Willy Weber, manager of both Schumachers. But it seems
->> that the right spelling is Willi Weber. (I found 34 uses of Willi
->> including an interview with him and only 15 uses of Willy.)

->15 uses of willy?  I can think of two or three but fif***?

Cleary *you're* not the life of the party ...   ;-)

Mark
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Montreal GP 1997 story at:
http://SportToday.org/~opus/montrl97.htm

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Post by JUNT-KONG CHA » Sat, 05 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> > Willy as in Willy Weber, manager of both Schumachers. But it seems
> > that the right spelling is Willi Weber. (I found 34 uses of Willi
> > including an interview with him and only 15 uses of Willy.)

> > He is also know as Mr. 20%. (That is $5 million per year, these past 2
> > years just from the salary from Ferrari). And there is all the money from
> > merchandising, which is even more. And also, according to a web page I
> > found (http://SportToday.org/~lisab/more.htm) he also manages Claudia
> > Schiffer and someone named Michael Doohan. I doubt that last one.
>                ^^^^^^^
> You're kidding right? F1 needs a personality like Mick. As for Mr.
> Willi, he's nothing but a mafioso.

> What was the fuzz some time ago about the FIA taking over the FIM?
> Bernie has noticed that there's an international series with more
> battles and passing on one race day than F1 has in an entire season?

> KS
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And also one where 1 guy is so ***, 6 out of 7 this year,
unbelievable.

JK