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by **rsa** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

It seems to me that it's just as easy to let 3 cars thru as it is to let one
thru.

Looks like Ferrari are doing a 'Ron Dennis' to Irvine.

Or the need for a Ferrari on the podium at Monza was just too great.

by **J Wallac** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>It seems to me that it's just as easy to let 3 cars thru as it is to let
one
>thru.

Easy to do but way way stupid! Ferrari still want the constructor don't
they, therefore they need as many points as they can get. If Salo let them
all through then Ferrari would have lost 2 points.

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by **Harjan Bran** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

They would only help Coulthard who's still pretty close. And they would be
sacrificing far more positions than would be won.

Quote:

> It seems to me that it's just as easy to let 3 cars thru as it is to let
one
> thru.

> Looks like Ferrari are doing a 'Ron Dennis' to Irvine.

> Or the need for a Ferrari on the podium at Monza was just too great.

by **Two00m** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Where Salo finished he gets 4 points. Eddie gets 2, for a Ferrari total of 6.
If Salo lets all those cars through so Eddie can finish ahead of him, Eddie
gets 3 and Salo 2 for a total of 5.
It makes no sense. Salo did a great job and deserved his third place finish.
It is good Ferrari did not make him pull aside.

by **niko Solitand** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Where Salo finished he gets 4 points. Eddie gets 2, for a Ferrari total of 6.
>If Salo lets all those cars through so Eddie can finish ahead of him, Eddie
>gets 3 and Salo 2 for a total of 5.
>It makes no sense. Salo did a great job and deserved his third place finish.
>It is good Ferrari did not make him pull aside.

Well something sure doesn't make sense...

Salo finished 3rd aka 4 points....Irvine finished 6th, aka 1
point..total of 5 points for Ferrari.

Now imagined scenario: Salo lets barrichello take third, then moves
away for Couthard who takes fourth, then Salo gives way to irvine who
takes 5th and Salo is then sixth. This gives Ferrari a 5th and 6th
place aka, 3 points.

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by **S^en** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Now imagined scenario: Salo lets barrichello take third, then moves
> away for Couthard who takes fourth, then Salo gives way to irvine who
> takes 5th and Salo is then sixth. This gives Ferrari a 5th and 6th
> place aka, 3 points.

And 140,000 Tifosi going berserk that the team sacrificed a
podium finish...

Sven.

by **VWMtrsp** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

not only impossible but stupid. If Irv was right behind Mika a "problem" with
his brakes is easier to come up with then if eddie is 2 or more cars back, it
just makes no sense. Ferrari is after the championship for them, not eddie.

Alan
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his
fools."
-Ernest Hemingway

by **Rob Silch** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Yeah, and imagine if Salo lets the 3 cars go by and then Irvine breaks
down!!!

Quote:

>> Now imagined scenario: Salo lets barrichello take third, then moves
>> away for Couthard who takes fourth, then Salo gives way to irvine who
>> takes 5th and Salo is then sixth. This gives Ferrari a 5th and 6th
>> place aka, 3 points.

>And 140,000 Tifosi going berserk that the team sacrificed a
>podium finish...

>Sven.

by **Osmo Ronkan** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Well something sure doesn't make sense...

>Salo finished 3rd aka 4 points....Irvine finished 6th, aka 1
>point..total of 5 points for Ferrari.

>Now imagined scenario: Salo lets barrichello take third, then moves
>away for Couthard who takes fourth, then Salo gives way to irvine who
>takes 5th and Salo is then sixth. This gives Ferrari a 5th and 6th
>place aka, 3 points.

As that would also give McLaren an extra point, they would effectively
lost 3 points by doing so. Of course had they given Irvine the extra
point they could have played dirty after that. :-)

Osmo

by **Miles Constabl** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

All this talk of points... isn't there prize money involved as well?

Miles

by **Hskg** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

It all came down to how many points the team would win for the Manufacturers
Title.

By staying the way they were, Ferrari earned more points than McLaren for the
race & closed the gap.

Also by staying the way they were, they denied points to Coulthard towards the
Drivers Championship - this also helped Eddie.

Now if Eddie had been in 4th, guarenteed that Salo would have given up 3rd
place to Eddie.

by **sweet** » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> And 140,000 Tifosi going berserk that the team
> sacrificed a podium finish...

But imagine the reactions - "I said so in Monza! Todt is an
idiot!" - of the same Tifosi after the last race of the
season, should Irvine lose the title by one point:-)

B

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by **Glenn Durd** » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>>Now imagined scenario: Salo lets barrichello take third, then moves
>>away for Couthard who takes fourth, then Salo gives way to irvine who
>>takes 5th and Salo is then sixth. This gives Ferrari a 5th and 6th
>>place aka, 3 points.

An even dirtier tactic would have been to have Salo slow down,
let Rubens past, then block Coulthard at about 6 seconds per
lap so that Irvine could catch and then pass both of them.

That is, just like Irvine did to JV back in Japan a few years
back so that MS could pass them both.

Ugly I know, but desperate times call for desperate measures,
and there has been a precent set already, but I suspect Salo
wouldnt be in for it.

by **John Walla** » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:05:13 -0700, sweetb

Quote:

>But imagine the reactions - "I said so in Monza! Todt is an
>idiot!" - of the same Tifosi after the last race of the
>season, should Irvine lose the title by one point:-)

What would Ferrari prefer - win the constructors and no driver's
champion, or a Jaguar going round with a No.1 on it and no
constructors cup for Ferrari?

Answers on a postcard to Mr. Todt, c/o "Still in Constructor's Cup
hunt", Maranello.

Cheers!
John

by **Troy Robertso** » Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> That is, just like Irvine did to JV back in Japan a few years
> back so that MS could pass them both.

Just what the hell do you think JV was doing at the start of the race while
Irv raced away!!! Villeneuve was blocking Schumacher to try to get Hakkinen
to pass him. That's why it appeared Irvine was flying.

Troy

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