"Rush" trailer

"Rush" trailer

Post by larki » Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:22:02


Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

Matt

 
 
 

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Post by News » Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:30:37


Quote:
> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

> Matt

According to Ron Howard, it's done.

 
 
 

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Post by larki » Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:03:40

Quote:


> > Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> > Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

> > Matt

> According to Ron Howard, it's done.

Then that's a shame - and with a September 13th release date he's got plenty of CPU-cycles he could buy to improve the look (if my impressions are correct).

I'll still be going to see it, mind you

 
 
 

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Post by AC » Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:48:58

Quote:

> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

> Matt

Oh that looks horrible. Then I see the weasel phrase, "based on...".
Then we hear the heroic speeches, Hollywood sickly drama and there is
the "hey cry now" music. This aint no Senna.

I don't think I can stomach this film at all. And I know it will
probably have mass appeal and critics will cream over it. But, already I
see nothing more than a genuine story Hollywoodised in to a bucket of vomit.

--
AC

 
 
 

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Post by larki » Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:02:50

Quote:


> > Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> > Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

> > Matt

> Oh that looks horrible. Then I see the weasel phrase, "based on...".

> Then we hear the heroic speeches, Hollywood sickly drama and there is

> the "hey cry now" music. This aint no Senna.

> I don't think I can stomach this film at all. And I know it will

> probably have mass appeal and critics will cream over it. But, already I

> see nothing more than a genuine story Hollywoodised in to a bucket of vomit.

> --

> AC

I watched with the sound turned off (work!) so didn't get that.  

It is Ron Howard after all...

Though I suppose "don't judge a book (film) by its cover (trailer)" might apply?

 
 
 

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Post by Alan Bake » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 01:43:08


Quote:

> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit
> too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but
> surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

> Matt

Don't care...

I've GOT to see that.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

 
 
 

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Post by AC » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:09:19

Quote:



>>> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

>>> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

>>> Matt

>> Oh that looks horrible. Then I see the weasel phrase, "based on...".

>> Then we hear the heroic speeches, Hollywood sickly drama and there is

>> the "hey cry now" music. This aint no Senna.

>> I don't think I can stomach this film at all. And I know it will

>> probably have mass appeal and critics will cream over it. But, already I

>> see nothing more than a genuine story Hollywoodised in to a bucket of vomit.

>> --

>> AC

> I watched with the sound turned off (work!) so didn't get that.

> It is Ron Howard after all...

> Though I suppose "don't judge a book (film) by its cover (trailer)" might apply?

Well, that is what one is supposed to do, other wise covers and trailers
would have no use.

--
AC

 
 
 

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Post by Ar » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 04:48:23


Quote:
> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

That's probably why the trailer is only in 480p and not full HD. Don't
want to pick even more holes.

I agree, there are bits that look like too much computer graphics were
used, and obvious where it was used.

 
 
 

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Post by AC » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 05:32:41

Quote:


>> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks
>> a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable /
>> unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so
>> easily.

>> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

>> Matt

> Oh that looks horrible. Then I see the weasel phrase, "based on...".
> Then we hear the heroic speeches, Hollywood sickly drama and there is
> the "hey cry now" music. This aint no Senna.

> I don't think I can stomach this film at all. And I know it will
> probably have mass appeal and critics will cream over it. But, already I
> see nothing more than a genuine story Hollywoodised in to a bucket of
> vomit.

Reading back, that is a bit harsh, ish.

See, normally, I like good bit of GCI, emotionally exploitative,
hollywood crap. I'll happily watch something like Battleship,
Transformers, or Fast and Furious, and marvel at the incredible CGI on
screen.

I think my problem is that to me F1 and its stories are worthy of the
treatment Senna got. I think if something more serious also existed, I
wouldn't mind so much. Oh, and I am British, and there for by
definition, American = vulgar!!!

On the other hand, I suppose it has to be a good thing that F1 gets this
sort of mass market movie. It could do a lot to raise its profile,
especially in the US. Although I do find it a bit weird that there is
the mix of olde skool cars and setting with all this hyper CGI. For me,
all that would work better with a modern setting. I suppose people might
say, "look it was cool back then, what happened?"....

Of course I'll have to watch it, even if its only to be able to properly
slag it off. But who knows, maybe it'll turn out OK.

--
AC

 
 
 

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Post by Noj » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:23:01

larkim wrote ...

Quote:

> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

> Matt

Straight to video.
 
 
 

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Post by Zeppo Mar » Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:41:37


Quote:


>> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit
>> too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but
>> surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

>> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

>> Matt

> Don't care...

> I've GOT to see that.

Agreed.
As for the extensive usage of the CGI: I wouldn't expect them to
recreate whole races and race accidents with real cars and stunt
drivers. Firstly, it would be way to expensive and way to dangerous.
Secondly, if they were able to fake a moon landing back in sixties
(LOL!), I take for granted that the modern days CGI will be good enough
for a real thrill. OK, after some more post-production work, I suppose
it will be.
 
 
 

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Post by awa.. » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 05:17:59

Quote:




>>> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit
>>> too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but
>>> surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

>>> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

>>> Matt

>> Don't care...

>> I've GOT to see that.

>Agreed.
>As for the extensive usage of the CGI: I wouldn't expect them to
>recreate whole races and race accidents with real cars and stunt
>drivers. Firstly, it would be way to expensive and way to dangerous.
>Secondly, if they were able to fake a moon landing back in sixties
>(LOL!), I take for granted that the modern days CGI will be good enough
>for a real thrill. OK, after some more post-production work, I suppose
>it will be.

they shot lots of footage of real cars "racing" at high speed round various
tracks in the UK, the Nurburgring crash was recreated as realistically as far
as can be done sensibly with safety of the crew, stunt drivers etc etc at the
exact spot. they obviously had to cgi alot of the backgrounds in for some
stuff, since you cant recreate that realistically or get the shots you want.
that tracking shot of Fuji I presume flying over the grid the backdrop and
surrounds to the track are probably all post production CGI with the
weather added,but the grid and cars were real.

I dont think its going to be a total CGI fest like Speed Racer,and probably
not a Grand Prix either, but a reasonable mixture of techniques. there are
something like double the number of visual effect shots in Bladerunner than
Close Encounters, the difference is you notice the alien spaceships. not the
matte paintings and the rain

 
 
 

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Post by News » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 05:47:56


Quote:




>>>> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit
>>>> too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but
>>>> surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

>>>> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

>>>> Matt

>>> Don't care...

>>> I've GOT to see that.

>> Agreed.
>> As for the extensive usage of the CGI: I wouldn't expect them to
>> recreate whole races and race accidents with real cars and stunt
>> drivers. Firstly, it would be way to expensive and way to dangerous.
>> Secondly, if they were able to fake a moon landing back in sixties
>> (LOL!), I take for granted that the modern days CGI will be good enough
>> for a real thrill. OK, after some more post-production work, I suppose
>> it will be.

> they shot lots of footage of real cars "racing" at high speed round various
> tracks in the UK, the Nurburgring crash was recreated as realistically as far
> as can be done sensibly with safety of the crew, stunt drivers etc etc at the
> exact spot. they obviously had to cgi alot of the backgrounds in for some
> stuff, since you cant recreate that realistically or get the shots you want.
> that tracking shot of Fuji I presume flying over the grid the backdrop and
> surrounds to the track are probably all post production CGI with the
> weather added,but the grid and cars were real.

> I dont think its going to be a total CGI fest like Speed Racer,and probably
> not a Grand Prix either, but a reasonable mixture of techniques. there are
> something like double the number of visual effect shots in Bladerunner than
> Close Encounters, the difference is you notice the alien spaceships. not the
> matte paintings and the rain

"It's only a movie..."
 
 
 

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Post by larki » Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:25:16

Quote:





> >>> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit

> >>> too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but

> >>> surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> >>> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

> >>> Matt

> >> Don't care...

> >> I've GOT to see that.

> >Agreed.

> >As for the extensive usage of the CGI: I wouldn't expect them to

> >recreate whole races and race accidents with real cars and stunt

> >drivers. Firstly, it would be way to expensive and way to dangerous.

> >Secondly, if they were able to fake a moon landing back in sixties

> >(LOL!), I take for granted that the modern days CGI will be good enough

> >for a real thrill. OK, after some more post-production work, I suppose

> >it will be.

> they shot lots of footage of real cars "racing" at high speed round various

> tracks in the UK, the Nurburgring crash was recreated as realistically as far

> as can be done sensibly with safety of the crew, stunt drivers etc etc at the

> exact spot. they obviously had to cgi alot of the backgrounds in for some

> stuff, since you cant recreate that realistically or get the shots you want.

> that tracking shot of Fuji I presume flying over the grid the backdrop and

> surrounds to the track are probably all post production CGI with the

> weather added,but the grid and cars were real.

> I dont think its going to be a total CGI fest like Speed Racer,and probably

> not a Grand Prix either, but a reasonable mixture of techniques. there are

> something like double the number of visual effect shots in Bladerunner than

> Close Encounters, the difference is you notice the alien spaceships. not the

> matte paintings and the rain

I don't mind CGI in the slightest - it was the fact that the low res trailer looked so CGI for large parts that I can only imagine it looking very unrealistic when seen in a cinema or on BR / DVD.  They can do amazing things these days with CGI, some of it depends on how much money you are prepared to spend on the CPU cycles, and some depends on the talent of the individual artists / programmers involved.  To me, it looked like they had had to skimp on the costs of the CGI, and that *might* detract from the film's overall quality.

We'll wait and see...

Matt

 
 
 

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Post by nice.guy.nig » Sat, 13 Apr 2013 03:18:20


Quote:
> Just watched it.  Even on youtube in a small window on the PC it looks a bit too obviously CGI'd for my liking.  Perhaps inevitable / unavoidable, but surprised me that I was left with that impression so easily.

> Perhaps plenty of post-production left to do...

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiii1ERd_0Q

Looks fine to me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUU_F9TvXco ;)