Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by AC » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 03:42:05


Quote:



>>> Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?

>>> I m sure that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the

>>> Columnists and former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

>>> Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because of the shame.

>> Again, the mistake is thinking performance was his reason for leaving.

>> The relative performance of the Mclarens and Mercs is completely

>> irrelevant. A happy bonus for Lewis, sure, but not the point.

>> Hindsight wise, as some one who understood his move to Merc, there is

>> cause for concern. If this business of a grumpy German faction in the

>> team are to be believed, then Lewis might be in another shit storm. And

>> ironically, the further to the front the car gets, the worse the

>> tensions will be.

>> --

>> AC

> I think that Lewis saw things at McLaren that let him believe that they
> were going in the other direction.  No one was closer to the McLaren
> team than Lewis.  Not the former F1 Drivers, not the Columnists.
> So when I heard people calling it a mistake.  I said this is Arm Chair
> Quarterbacking at it s best.

You can think that if you like. There is nothing logical or factual
about it, but I guess it suits your position to try to sell it.

It is actually laughable that you would have us believe that Lewis some
how knew this new car would be a dud, and that some how he knew the new
Merc would be better. The only person making that claim is you. On top
of that we know know that Merc was a second choice at best.

Ironic that then you accuse people of Arm Chair Quarter-backing.

Amusing trolling and all that, well done you. Yes, we know people
thought his move was a bad one, and the Merc car is way better than most
thought it would be. Well, you noticed people got it wrong....... with
the huge benefit of hind sight. So, not really that clever an
observation is it?

--
AC

 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by Aliste » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 03:51:58

Quote:





>> >> > Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?
>> >> > Im

>> >> > sure

>> >> > that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the Columnists

>> >> > and

>> >> > former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

>> >> > Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just
>> >> > because

>> >> > of the shame.

>> >> Ever heard the phrase "labouring a point"?

>> > Yes.  And it hurts doesn't it? Get ready for this every week.  People

>> > need to be held accountable for what they shoot out of their pie
>> > hole.

>> > Or at least  explain the line of thinking that went into the
>> > incorrect

>> > prediction that they made.  Lewis has a way of making those people
>> > eat

>> > crow.  They get all quiet and complain about "laboring a point" when

>> > it's pointed out the them.   Funny.

>> sometimes the correct decission does not work & the wrong one does, it
>> is

>> easy to be wise with hindsight.

>> to continue with my previous Blackjack analogy splitting a pair of
>> 10's,

>> it is a ***y stupid thing to do but somtimes it might work and
>> standing

>> on the same is not a 100% guarantee.

>> I believed that Lewis had made the wrong call, It is staring to look
>> like

>> he has got lucky.

> Nah... He didn't get lucky.  He was just better equipped to make the
> decision to leave (being a McLaren Employee and all), than you are to
> critique the decision.

I doubt he knew the McLaren would be a dog at the start of the season
(But I could be wrong) & I am as certain as I can be that he did not know
how competitive or otherwise the Merc would be based on 2010,2011 & 2012
form I would expect them to be behind McLaren in the constructors
championship at the end of the season.

I hope I am wrong.

--
love,  n.:
        Love ties in a knot in the end of the rope.

 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by Edmun » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 04:36:24

Quote:



>> > Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?  Im

>> > sure that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the
>> > Columnists

>> > and former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are
>> > Smart.

>> > Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because
>> > of

>> > the shame.

>> What shame? facts of the past clearly shows he have no shame at all.

>> Edmund

> What does that have to do with him leaving McLaren for Mercedes-Benz?
> Well since you brought it up (perhaps as a deflection); what facts from
> the past shows that Lewis Hamilton has no shame?  Please Answer?

OK since you are obviously new here.
There was an event on the Hungaroring where there where made appointments
about driving in front during the fuel burning rounds.
A  race before he was allowed to have the advantage and on the Hungaroring
it was his his teammate's turn.
Even after his step daddy ( Ron Dennis ) ordered him several times to
move over, he literal said : "go ***ing swivel"  and took again the
advantage as he always did.

When his teammate retaliated by delaying him at the pit stop, in plain
view of everyone the dirty hypocrite said to the the press, something
like :
you have seen what happened" What the dirty bastard didn't tell the press
is what was agreed and how he took all the advantage each and every time.
He even got rewarded at the time for his dirty behavior and got his
teammate penalised with his dirty tricks.
Apart from that he plain lied to the stewards on other occasions.
He even said at one occasion " I am a team player " that was really funny.

Edmund

 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by . » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 04:51:45


Quote:


>> What does that have to do with him leaving McLaren for Mercedes-Benz?
>> Well since you brought it up (perhaps as a deflection); what facts from
>> the past shows that Lewis Hamilton has no shame?  Please Answer?

> OK since you are obviously new here.
> There was an event on the Hungaroring where there where made appointments
> about driving in front during the fuel burning rounds.
> A  race before he was allowed to have the advantage and on the Hungaroring
> it was his his teammate's turn.
> Even after his step daddy ( Ron Dennis ) ordered him several times to
> move over, he literal said : "go ***ing swivel"  and took again the
> advantage as he always did.

> When his teammate retaliated by delaying him at the pit stop, in plain
> view of everyone the dirty hypocrite said to the the press, something
> like :
> you have seen what happened" What the dirty bastard didn't tell the press
> is what was agreed and how he took all the advantage each and every time.
> He even got rewarded at the time for his dirty behavior and got his
> teammate penalised with his dirty tricks.
> Apart from that he plain lied to the stewards on other occasions.
> He even said at one occasion " I am a team player " that was really funny.

> Edmund

Hopefully that's vague and pretentious enough for everyone.
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by John Brigg » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 05:07:17


Quote:



>>>> Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?  Im
>>>> sure

>>>> that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the Columnists
>>>> and

>>>> former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

>>>> Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because
>>>> of the shame.

>>> Ever heard the phrase "labouring a point"?

>> Yes.  And it hurts doesn't it? Get ready for this every week.  People
>> need to be held accountable for what they shoot out of their pie hole.
>> Or at least  explain the line of thinking that went into the incorrect
>> prediction that they made.  Lewis has a way of making those people eat
>> crow.  They get all quiet and complain about "laboring a point" when
>> it's pointed out the them.   Funny.

> sometimes the correct decission does not work & the wrong one does, it is
> easy to be wise with hindsight.

> to continue with my previous Blackjack analogy splitting a pair of 10's,
> it is a ***y stupid thing to do but somtimes it might work and standing
> on the same is not a 100% guarantee.

> I believed that Lewis had made the wrong call, It is staring to look like
> he has got lucky.

In what sense a wrong call? It was blindingly obvious that leaving
McLaren was the right decision - the only question was how long the move
to Mercedes would take to pay off.
--
John Briggs
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by John Brigg » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 05:08:45


Quote:





>>>>>> Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?
>>>>>> Im

>>>>>> sure

>>>>>> that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the Columnists

>>>>>> and

>>>>>> former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

>>>>>> Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just
>>>>>> because

>>>>>> of the shame.

>>>>> Ever heard the phrase "labouring a point"?

>>>> Yes.  And it hurts doesn't it? Get ready for this every week.  People

>>>> need to be held accountable for what they shoot out of their pie
>>>> hole.

>>>> Or at least  explain the line of thinking that went into the
>>>> incorrect

>>>> prediction that they made.  Lewis has a way of making those people
>>>> eat

>>>> crow.  They get all quiet and complain about "laboring a point" when

>>>> it's pointed out the them.   Funny.

>>> sometimes the correct decission does not work & the wrong one does, it
>>> is

>>> easy to be wise with hindsight.

>>> to continue with my previous Blackjack analogy splitting a pair of
>>> 10's,

>>> it is a ***y stupid thing to do but somtimes it might work and
>>> standing

>>> on the same is not a 100% guarantee.

>>> I believed that Lewis had made the wrong call, It is staring to look
>>> like

>>> he has got lucky.

>> Nah... He didn't get lucky.  He was just better equipped to make the
>> decision to leave (being a McLaren Employee and all), than you are to
>> critique the decision.

> I doubt he knew the McLaren would be a dog at the start of the season
> (But I could be wrong) & I am as certain as I can be that he did not know
> how competitive or otherwise the Merc would be based on 2010,2011 & 2012
> form I would expect them to be behind McLaren in the constructors
> championship at the end of the season.

> I hope I am wrong.

For a start, McLaren will have to revert to the 2012 car.
--
John Briggs
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by tonymi.. » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 05:15:30

Quote:




> >> > Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?  Im

> >> > sure that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the

> >> > Columnists

> >> > and former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are

> >> > Smart.

> >> > Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because

> >> > of

> >> > the shame.

> >> What shame? facts of the past clearly shows he have no shame at all.

> >> Edmund

> > What does that have to do with him leaving McLaren for Mercedes-Benz?

> > Well since you brought it up (perhaps as a deflection); what facts from

> > the past shows that Lewis Hamilton has no shame?  Please Answer?

> OK since you are obviously new here.

> There was an event on the Hungaroring where there where made appointments

> about driving in front during the fuel burning rounds.

> A  race before he was allowed to have the advantage and on the Hungaroring

> it was his his teammate's turn.

> Even after his step daddy ( Ron Dennis ) ordered him several times to

> move over, he literal said : "go ***ing swivel"  and took again the

> advantage as he always did.

> When his teammate retaliated by delaying him at the pit stop, in plain

> view of everyone the dirty hypocrite said to the the press, something

> like :

Shouldn't Alonso be ashamed?  Or is it ok to delay a team-mate as long as the team mate is Lewis Hamilton?  You can't see your double standard?   Its retaliation against Lewis, so doing something stupid is OK in that instance?   Why aren't you calling out Alonso?   And you call Lewis a Hypocrite

Quote:

> you have seen what happened" What the dirty bastard didn't tell the press

> is what was agreed and how he took all the advantage each and every time.

> He even got rewarded at the time for his dirty behavior and got his

> teammate penalised with his dirty tricks.

His team mate (Alonso) got penalized because he delayed Lewis' pit-stop causing LH to miss his Hot-Lap.  But in your book it's OK to do that? So it was Lewis Hamilton that caused Alonso to wait in his pit stall long after he was signaled to be released?  Alonso was wrong for holding back Hamilton, yet you dont have a problem with that.  Why do you think Alonso got penalized?  I'd love to hear your answer?    

Quote:

> Apart from that he plain lied to the stewards on other occasions.

> He even said at one occasion " I am a team player " that was really funny.

> Edmund

Dude, the issues that you have with Lewis do not have anything to do with what you've just written (or his driving).  It is 100% personal.  If anything Alonso should be just as much in shame, but that's ok with you because its retaliation?  Im not sure what Lewis has done to you to make you hate him as much as you do.  But it cannot be healthy.
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by tonymi.. » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 05:22:38

Quote:




> >>> Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?

> >>> I m sure that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the

> >>> Columnists and former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

> >>> Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because of the shame.

> >> Again, the mistake is thinking performance was his reason for leaving.

> >> The relative performance of the Mclarens and Mercs is completely

> >> irrelevant. A happy bonus for Lewis, sure, but not the point.

> >> Hindsight wise, as some one who understood his move to Merc, there is

> >> cause for concern. If this business of a grumpy German faction in the

> >> team are to be believed, then Lewis might be in another shit storm. And

> >> ironically, the further to the front the car gets, the worse the

> >> tensions will be.

> >> --

> >> AC

> > I think that Lewis saw things at McLaren that let him believe that they

> > were going in the other direction.  No one was closer to the McLaren

> > team than Lewis.  Not the former F1 Drivers, not the Columnists.

> > So when I heard people calling it a mistake.  I said this is Arm Chair

> > Quarterbacking at it s best.

> You can think that if you like. There is nothing logical or factual

> about it, but I guess it suits your position to try to sell it.

> It is actually laughable that you would have us believe that Lewis some

> how knew this new car would be a dud, and that some how he knew the new

> Merc would be better. The only person making that claim is you. On top

> of that we know know that Merc was a second choice at best.

> Ironic that then you accuse people of Arm Chair Quarter-backing.

> Amusing trolling and all that, well done you. Yes, we know people

> thought his move was a bad one, and the Merc car is way better than most

> thought it would be. Well, you noticed people got it wrong....... with

> the huge benefit of hind sight. So, not really that clever an

> observation is it?

> --

> AC

I knew it was the right move from day one.
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by RzR » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:28:30


Quote:

> Yes.  And it hurts doesn't it?

you are a moron lol
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by AC » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:30:40

Quote:





>>>>> Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?

>>>>> I m sure that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the

>>>>> Columnists and former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

>>>>> Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because of the shame.

>>>> Again, the mistake is thinking performance was his reason for leaving.

>>>> The relative performance of the Mclarens and Mercs is completely

>>>> irrelevant. A happy bonus for Lewis, sure, but not the point.

>>>> Hindsight wise, as some one who understood his move to Merc, there is

>>>> cause for concern. If this business of a grumpy German faction in the

>>>> team are to be believed, then Lewis might be in another shit storm. And

>>>> ironically, the further to the front the car gets, the worse the

>>>> tensions will be.

>>>> --

>>>> AC

>>> I think that Lewis saw things at McLaren that let him believe that they

>>> were going in the other direction.  No one was closer to the McLaren

>>> team than Lewis.  Not the former F1 Drivers, not the Columnists.

>>> So when I heard people calling it a mistake.  I said this is Arm Chair

>>> Quarterbacking at it s best.

>> You can think that if you like. There is nothing logical or factual

>> about it, but I guess it suits your position to try to sell it.

>> It is actually laughable that you would have us believe that Lewis some

>> how knew this new car would be a dud, and that some how he knew the new

>> Merc would be better. The only person making that claim is you. On top

>> of that we know know that Merc was a second choice at best.

>> Ironic that then you accuse people of Arm Chair Quarter-backing.

>> Amusing trolling and all that, well done you. Yes, we know people

>> thought his move was a bad one, and the Merc car is way better than most

>> thought it would be. Well, you noticed people got it wrong....... with

>> the huge benefit of hind sight. So, not really that clever an

>> observation is it?

>> --

>> AC

> I knew it was the right move from day one.

Fair enough. Prove it.

--
AC

 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by tonymi.. » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:53:27

Quote:


> > Yes.  And it hurts doesn't it?

> you are a moron lol

And you are one of those folks who's feeling hurt.  LOL!!
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by tonymi.. » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:57:25

Quote:






> >>>>> Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?

> >>>>> I m sure that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the

> >>>>> Columnists and former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

> >>>>> Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because of the shame.

> >>>> Again, the mistake is thinking performance was his reason for leaving.

> >>>> The relative performance of the Mclarens and Mercs is completely

> >>>> irrelevant. A happy bonus for Lewis, sure, but not the point.

> >>>> Hindsight wise, as some one who understood his move to Merc, there is

> >>>> cause for concern. If this business of a grumpy German faction in the

> >>>> team are to be believed, then Lewis might be in another shit storm. And

> >>>> ironically, the further to the front the car gets, the worse the

> >>>> tensions will be.

> >>>> --

> >>>> AC

> >>> I think that Lewis saw things at McLaren that let him believe that they

> >>> were going in the other direction.  No one was closer to the McLaren

> >>> team than Lewis.  Not the former F1 Drivers, not the Columnists.

> >>> So when I heard people calling it a mistake.  I said this is Arm Chair

> >>> Quarterbacking at it s best.

> >> You can think that if you like. There is nothing logical or factual

> >> about it, but I guess it suits your position to try to sell it.

> >> It is actually laughable that you would have us believe that Lewis some

> >> how knew this new car would be a dud, and that some how he knew the new

> >> Merc would be better. The only person making that claim is you. On top

> >> of that we know know that Merc was a second choice at best.

> >> Ironic that then you accuse people of Arm Chair Quarter-backing.

> >> Amusing trolling and all that, well done you. Yes, we know people

> >> thought his move was a bad one, and the Merc car is way better than most

> >> thought it would be. Well, you noticed people got it wrong....... with

> >> the huge benefit of hind sight. So, not really that clever an

> >> observation is it?

> >> --

> >> AC

> > I knew it was the right move from day one.

> Fair enough. Prove it.

> --

> AC

OK.  I'll point you to my Blog where I said that it was a good idea last year.  Oh... I don't have a blog.  I don't need to prove anything to you dude.  
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by Bruce Houl » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 07:15:41

Quote:





> > >> > Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?  Im

> > >> > sure

> > >> > that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the Columnists

> > >> > and

> > >> > former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

> > >> > Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because

> > >> > of the shame.

> > >> Ever heard the phrase "labouring a point"?

> > > Yes.  And it hurts doesn't it? Get ready for this every week.  People

> > > need to be held accountable for what they shoot out of their pie hole.

> > > Or at least  explain the line of thinking that went into the incorrect

> > > prediction that they made.  Lewis has a way of making those people eat

> > > crow.  They get all quiet and complain about "laboring a point" when

> > > it's pointed out the them.   Funny.

> > sometimes the correct decission does not work & the wrong one does, it is

> > easy to be wise with hindsight.

> > to continue with my previous Blackjack analogy splitting a pair of 10's,

> > it is a ***y stupid thing to do but somtimes it might work and standing

> > on the same is not a 100% guarantee.

> > I believed that Lewis had made the wrong call, It is staring to look like

> > he has got lucky.

> Nah... He didn't get lucky.  He was just better equipped to make the decision to leave (being a McLaren Employee and all), than you are to critique the decision.

Funny how the McLaren engineers thought they were making a fast car for 2013 but Lewis already knew they were wrong by September.
 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by Mower Ma » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 07:41:50


Quote:
> Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?  I m sure that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the

Columnists and former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people
are Smart.

Quote:

> Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because of the shame.

Satire. Don'tcha love it? Know I do, thanks. ;-)

--
Chris

'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it
every six months.'

(Oscar Wilde.)

 
 
 

Yet another week that Lewis regrets leaving McLaren

Post by AC » Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:00:58

Quote:







>>>>>>> Is it too late for Lewis to get a McLaren deal for next season?

>>>>>>> I m sure that right now he's regretting leaving McLaren like the

>>>>>>> Columnists and former F1 drivers said that he would.  Man those people are Smart.

>>>>>>> Another few weeks of this and Lewis might have to quit just because of the shame.

>>>>>> Again, the mistake is thinking performance was his reason for leaving.

>>>>>> The relative performance of the Mclarens and Mercs is completely

>>>>>> irrelevant. A happy bonus for Lewis, sure, but not the point.

>>>>>> Hindsight wise, as some one who understood his move to Merc, there is

>>>>>> cause for concern. If this business of a grumpy German faction in the

>>>>>> team are to be believed, then Lewis might be in another shit storm. And

>>>>>> ironically, the further to the front the car gets, the worse the

>>>>>> tensions will be.

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> AC

>>>>> I think that Lewis saw things at McLaren that let him believe that they

>>>>> were going in the other direction.  No one was closer to the McLaren

>>>>> team than Lewis.  Not the former F1 Drivers, not the Columnists.

>>>>> So when I heard people calling it a mistake.  I said this is Arm Chair

>>>>> Quarterbacking at it s best.

>>>> You can think that if you like. There is nothing logical or factual

>>>> about it, but I guess it suits your position to try to sell it.

>>>> It is actually laughable that you would have us believe that Lewis some

>>>> how knew this new car would be a dud, and that some how he knew the new

>>>> Merc would be better. The only person making that claim is you. On top

>>>> of that we know know that Merc was a second choice at best.

>>>> Ironic that then you accuse people of Arm Chair Quarter-backing.

>>>> Amusing trolling and all that, well done you. Yes, we know people

>>>> thought his move was a bad one, and the Merc car is way better than most

>>>> thought it would be. Well, you noticed people got it wrong....... with

>>>> the huge benefit of hind sight. So, not really that clever an

>>>> observation is it?

>>>> --

>>>> AC

>>> I knew it was the right move from day one.

>> Fair enough. Prove it.

>> --

>> AC

> OK.  I'll point you to my Blog where I said that it was a good idea last year.

I bet you don't have one.

Quote:
> Oh... I don't have a blog.

Oh, there we go.

Quote:
> I don't need to prove anything to you dude.

No you don't. No at all. Equally, of course, I don't need to believe
your claim to have known "it was right from day one". And as we stand,
given your reply, I have good reason to assume you made it up, in other
words, lied.

By all means, prove me wrong. You'll get an apology and all that. You'll
love it. Go on, prove me wrong.

--
AC