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Can any cricket guru out there enlighten me on the following point:

Isn't there a rule that if the batsman does not offer a genuine stroke
he may not take any bye runs off that ball? Am I correct on this point
or what? If I am then how is this scored in the book?

A very wierd occurance took place on last Sunday (12th) in very first
league match of our season and a decision on the above subject lead to
an extremely strange result to the limited overs match. I will post
the entire incident at a later time, but in the meantime I will very much
appreciate a response to my posting.

Thanks in anticipation.

Pradeep.

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there is no rule which says the batsman cannot take a bye if he has not
offered a shot. it is only if the batsman has deliberately padded the ball
that a run cannot be taken.
-murali iyer

For the record:

LAW 26  BYE AND LEG-BYE

...................................................................
1.  BYES

If the ball, not having been called "wide" or "no ball", passes the
Striker without touching his bat or person, and any runs are obtained,
the Umpire shall signal "bye" and the run or runs shall be credited to
the batting side.
...................................................................

Parts 2. and 3. relate to leg-byes only.  A leg-bye can only be scored
if the Striker attempts to play the ball with his bat or tries to
avoid being hit with the ball.

It is interesting to note that the rule states "passes the Striker"
explicitly.  I guess that means if the ball slips from the bowlers
hand and lands at mid-wicket :-) that you cannot run byes?

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As far as I know, you can take a bye whether or not the batsman plays a stroke,  
presumably on the grounds that its the fielding team's (particularly the
keeper's) fault if there is an oppportunity to take a bye.

On the other hand, you can't take a LEG bye if no stroke is played.  I assume
this is to prevent batsmen kicking a ball where he couldn't be LBW.

-Dave Barron

That's true - but the batsman can go hit it and take runs if he
wants (usually 4...).   If he doesn't want to, or if he misses at his
first attempt, then its just a dead ball, and is bowled again.

kre

Byes can be taken at any time.
Leg byes can only be taken if the batsman was avoiding the ball (bouncers..)
or played a genuine shot at the delivery. A leg bye requires the ball
to touch the batsman on his body, not the bat (or gloves holding the bat).

If a ball hits the batsman and leg byes are run, the umpire makes the
decision as to whether a shot was attempted or whether he was avoiding
the delivery, if the umpire chooses to disallow it, he signals the ball
as dead, the batsmen must return to their original ends. No runs are scored.
The ball is counted. A dot is entered into the book.

The ball is "in-play" and you have the option of walking to mid-wicket
and striking the ball anywhere you please. AB did this in the recent 1D
series and Viv thought it was a terrible thing. The fielding side may
not field the ball until it has passed the stumps or has been struck by
the batsman or everyone agrees it is dead. Perhaps this is another
reason why Dean Jones was not out, the ball not having "passed" the stumps
before it was fielded by Harper :-).

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   HUH!!!! As a keeper I take great exception....  most byes are conceded by
bowlers expecting their keepers to perform miracles with stray balls down the
legside...  or on shat wickets with balls that pea=roll from anywhere....

   'Keeping well does require a fair amount of participation from the bowlers
and a fairly true bounce.   And anyone that disagrees should put on a pair of
gloves and try it.  So there.

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