Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Crickete » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:41:02


Also, Kaif should be moved above Yuvraj in the batting order.  Anyway, 280
is a poor score for India.  If the WI still can't win, it's their fault.
 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Shripathi Kamat » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:46:04


Quote:
> Also, Kaif should be moved above Yuvraj in the batting order.

uh, you are just saying that, you don't mean it.  What you really want is
SRT to open :-)

Quote:
> Anyway, 280
> is a poor score for India.  If the WI still can't win, it's their fault.

LOL!

BTW, I am not watching the action today, but what happened with the crowd
this time? Did another cro-magnon discover fire?

 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Crickete » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:58:32

Quote:
> uh, you are just saying that, you don't mean it.  What you really want is
> SRT to open :-)

I could live with that. :)  However, now I'd like Gangu to open with SRT.
Sehwag is becoming too unreliable.

Also, I am against the AA at # 3 experiment.

Dravid should be in the team even if he doesn't keep but now VVS also wants
to cement a place in the side for himself.  Watch out Yuvraj.

Quote:
> BTW, I am not watching the action today, but what happened with the crowd
> this time? Did another cro-magnon discover fire?

I didn't watch all of it.  Apparently, Sarwan was the target of a couple of
spectator-"missiles".  Don't know if anything happened after that.

Quote:
>> Anyway, 280
>> is a poor score for India.  If the WI still can't win, it's their fault.
> LOL!

Hey, Indian needs at least 380 to be somewhat confident of victory with the
bowling line-up they have. :)

 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Shripathi Kamat » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:14:05


Quote:
> > uh, you are just saying that, you don't mean it.  What you really want
is
> > SRT to open :-)

> I could live with that. :)  However, now I'd like Gangu to open with SRT.

We may just see such a thing in NZ, or SRT + VS with Ganguly to follow
later.

Quote:
> Sehwag is becoming too unreliable.

I think that they finally found a chink in his armor that they are
exploiting.  This is not atypical.  First a bat succeeds, and the bowlers
find and exploit a weakness, and then if the bat was good, he will find the
equalizer...

I still have confidence in him, he will need to think things thru, though.

Quote:
> Also, I am against the AA at # 3 experiment.

This is a tough one.  I couldn't care less where AA bats, as long as he
bowls well.  The uneasy feeling I have is that this 95 is gonna carry him
for a while even if he fails with the ball.  I would like to be wrong on
that, though.

Quote:
> Dravid should be in the team even if he doesn't keep but now VVS also
wants
> to cement a place in the side for himself.  Watch out Yuvraj.

I think Yuvraj is safe, VVS may play at YS spot, and YS may move to #3.  I
am sure they will experiment that sometime soon.

Quote:
> > BTW, I am not watching the action today, but what happened with the
crowd
> > this time? Did another cro-magnon discover fire?

> I didn't watch all of it.  Apparently, Sarwan was the target of a couple
of
> spectator-"missiles".  Don't know if anything happened after that.

Ah! Graduated to spear-chucking, I see.

Quote:
> >> Anyway, 280
> >> is a poor score for India.  If the WI still can't win, it's their
fault.

> > LOL!

> Hey, Indian needs at least 380 to be somewhat confident of victory with
the
> bowling line-up they have. :)

Real sad. I look for Harbhajan to do much better, and India pull this one
out.  Otherwise it gets to be a bad joke that's repeated over and over
again.

Last four five days have been real bad for my sports teams, India lost off
the last ball, Lakers lost in OT to the Celtics, and today again with the
last shot to the Wizards.

Here's hoping India bucks the trend.

 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Crickete » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:33:49

Quote:
> I think that they finally found a chink in his armor that they are
> exploiting.  This is not atypical.  First a bat succeeds, and the bowlers
> find and exploit a weakness, and then if the bat was good, he will find
the
> equalizer...

> I still have confidence in him, he will need to think things thru, though.

I am hopeful as well.  He'll probably need to spend some time in the nets
also working on this.  BTW, in him India already has an all-rounder although
a few more wouldn't hurt.

Quote:
> This is a tough one.  I couldn't care less where AA bats, as long as he
> bowls well.  The uneasy feeling I have is that this 95 is gonna carry him
> for a while even if he fails with the ball.  I would like to be wrong on
> that, though.

Yes, I'd like him to succeed primarily with the ball but if need be he can
come in at # 7 or 8 and try to get some quick runs.

Quote:
> I think Yuvraj is safe, VVS may play at YS spot, and YS may move to #3.  I
> am sure they will experiment that sometime soon.

I think so, too.  YS is safe for now and VVS still has to go a long way to
prove himself in ODIs.  However, once SRT comes back one of the other
batsmen will probably have to be sacrificed.

Quote:
> Real sad. I look for Harbhajan to do much better, and India pull this one
> out.  Otherwise it gets to be a bad joke that's repeated over and over
> again.

Let's hope India can bowl better in this match.  Frankly, I only enjoy
watching when India is batting. :)
 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Shripathi Kamat » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:27:45


Quote:
> Also, Kaif should be moved above Yuvraj in the batting order.  Anyway, 280
> is a poor score for India.  If the WI still can't win, it's their fault.

Rather prophetic :-(

At least Srinath tried...

 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Devd » Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:46:12

Quote:

> I could live with that. :)  However, now I'd like Gangu to open with SRT.
> Sehwag is becoming too unreliable.

2 matches he fails and he becomes unreliable? :)...we need to be
more patient with our team rather than changing orders at the
drop of a hat.

Quote:
> Also, I am against the AA at # 3 experiment.

Its not an experiment. AA is being considered as an allrounder and
he just replaced Mongia at #3 since that spot was vacant so that
the other positions were not changed. You don't want to be messing
around with your batting order too much with just 12 matches to
go for the WC. He failed today but i think he should be given
another chance(he just hit a 95 the other day). The first thing
people need to do is not put too much pressure on him to score
quickly as he is not being sent as a pinch hitter. I think if he
bats calmly unlike today when he was in a hurry, he can bat well
up the order.

Quote:
> Hey, Indian needs at least 380 to be somewhat confident of victory with the
> bowling line-up they have. :)

The main problem in these two matches have been that all the main bowlers
have sucked which dosen't happen too often with India. Today Harbhajan
and Kumble had to be shielded, can you beleive that? I think i will
stick with this team for the 3rd onedayer(after all we don't have too
many options with SRT and ZK injured) with strict instructions by
the coach and captain to fight for life and win the next match.

Devdas

 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Kames » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 03:30:44


Quote:
> Last four five days have been real bad for my sports teams, India lost off
> the last ball, Lakers lost in OT to the Celtics, and today again with the
> last shot to the Wizards.

Yoo Hoo....Celtics...
Saw the Wizards game....Was incredible to see MJ, Kobe squaring off. Must
have been a great feeling for MJ considering the one who he respects is
coaching the one who models him. Got to see some vintage Jordan too.

Kamesh

Quote:

> Here's hoping India bucks the trend.

 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Kames » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 03:45:32


Quote:

> The main problem in these two matches have been that all the main bowlers
> have sucked which dosen't happen too often with India. Today Harbhajan
> and Kumble had to be shielded, can you beleive that? I think i will
> stick with this team for the 3rd onedayer(after all we don't have too
> many options with SRT and ZK injured) with strict instructions by
> the coach and captain to fight for life and win the next match.

Shielded by whom? Was it Sehwag?

For once we had 5 regular bowlers in the team. IMO, Sehwag was still given a
bowl becoz,
1) the other spinners failed miserably in the previous game (and this one)
2) Two out of the three pacers sucked in the second game (most of the runs
of AN came in the last three he bowled)
3) Sehwag did well in the last few ODIs he bowled (ICCKO vs RSA).

I think WI has sorted out Harby too as they have Sehwag.

It will be interesting to see who will be the one rested when ZK declares
himself fit.

Kamesh

Quote:

> Devdas

 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Crickete » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:30:41

Quote:
> At least Srinath tried...

You are right.  He was quite economical.
 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Crickete » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:41:40

Quote:
> 2 matches he fails and he becomes unreliable? :)...we need to be
> more patient with our team rather than changing orders at the
> drop of a hat.

I think he didn't do well in the last two Tests either.  I think though that
he'll sort be able to sort out his problems and do well.

Quote:
> Its not an experiment. AA is being considered as an allrounder and
> he just replaced Mongia at #3 since that spot was vacant so that
> the other positions were not changed. You don't want to be messing
> around with your batting order too much with just 12 matches to
> go for the WC. He failed today but i think he should be given
> another chance(he just hit a 95 the other day). The first thing
> people need to do is not put too much pressure on him to score
> quickly as he is not being sent as a pinch hitter. I think if he
> bats calmly unlike today when he was in a hurry, he can bat well
> up the order.

It's fine to consider AA an all-rounder, if that's what you wish.  However,
I don't want to see him coming before Yuvraj and Kaif on a regular basis.
Perhaps, if India is chasing 350 or so it could be worth a gamble.

Quote:
> The main problem in these two matches have been that all the main bowlers
> have sucked which dosen't happen too often with India. Today Harbhajan
> and Kumble had to be shielded, can you beleive that? I think i will
> stick with this team for the 3rd onedayer(after all we don't have too
> many options with SRT and ZK injured) with strict instructions by
> the coach and captain to fight for life and win the next match.

Bowling has long been India's weakness.  If these players can't perform in
India against WI what are they going to do against good sides in SA?
 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Narayana » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:52:51


Quote:

> Shielded by whom? Was it Sehwag?

> For once we had 5 regular bowlers in the team. IMO, Sehwag was still given
a
> bowl becoz,
> 1) the other spinners failed miserably in the previous game (and this one)
> 2) Two out of the three pacers sucked in the second game (most of the runs
> of AN came in the last three he bowled)

AA had 7 overs 47 when AN had 8 overs 49. I think our
bowling has really struggled lately. If Zaheer comes back we
can say bye bye to Nehra and possibly keep Kumble out.
Kumble's decline offlate has been quite alarming.
With the absence of SRT we don't have too many options of
5th bowler so we have to go with 5 regular bowler knowing
well that bowlers barring Zaheer and to an extent Bhajji are
unreliable. I hope Sri bowls like this till world cup. AA needs
to be consistent with the ball. He didn't bowl well in ICC finals.
Overall our bowlers don't even come close to completing their
quota of 10 overs. That is the bottomline. We have just about
enough time to sort out bowling problems.
 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Shripathi Kamat » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:02:31


<snip>

Quote:
> 2) Two out of the three pacers sucked in the second game (most of the runs
> of AN came in the last three he bowled)

Talk about adroitly maneuvering thru a minefield!  Nice one, Kamesh :-)

Next time, say it.  JUST say it!

Other than Srinath, every bowler sucked.  Looking forward to seeing a better
performance next time.  India's batting will now feel the pressure.

 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Crickete » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:08:26

Quote:
> India's batting will now feel the pressure.

India needs to put up at least 120 runs in the first 15 overs.  Yesterday
they were 42 off 10.  That's just not good enough.
 
 
 

Sehwag and Yuvraj need to be "rested" for a match or two

Post by Kames » Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:00:20


Quote:



> <snip>

> > 2) Two out of the three pacers sucked in the second game (most of the
runs
> > of AN came in the last three he bowled)

> Talk about adroitly maneuvering thru a minefield!  Nice one, Kamesh :-)

LOL

Quote:

> Next time, say it.  JUST say it!

> Other than Srinath, every bowler sucked.  Looking forward to seeing a
better
> performance next time.  India's batting will now feel the pressure.

The point is our batsmen invariably have been putting on 270+ and chasing
around that much too. It seems like unless we hit the 300 mark everytime
batting first, victories will be difficult to come by. I feel confident
while chasing though.

Kamesh