It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by drif.. » Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:41:58


With his 167 against WI, Flitntoff has officialy overtaken Aggy as
world's leading allrounder.
 
 
 

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by Loony Tune » Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:48:00


Quote:
> With his 167 against WI, Flitntoff has officialy overtaken Aggy as
> world's leading allrounder.

Let Flintoff come up with a performance better than 6-41 AGAINST AUS IN AUS
and then we will talk.
Who cares about a useless 167 against a depleted, demoralized, defunct bunch
of tomato throwers.

cheers
loony

 
 
 

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by Take it eas » Sun, 01 Aug 2004 11:08:54



Quote:
> defunct bunch of tomato throwers.

tomato throwers! good one.

Takeiteasy.

Quote:

> cheers
> loony


 
 
 

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by Ram Jaa » Sun, 01 Aug 2004 22:48:45

Quote:

> With his 167 against WI, Flitntoff has officialy overtaken Aggy as
> world's leading allrounder.

Thanks for giving a wonderful compliment to Agarkar. Leave
alone being a leading allrounder in the world, no one even
thinks of him being an allrounder!!!

His records also say that he is a bowler who can bat a bit.
Now, as far as bowling is concerned, Aj-Ag beats Flintoff by
a mile! Look at their bowling records in onedayers. No comparisons
at all. As far as test bowling is concerned, Aj-Ag has a match-winning
spell against the best team in the world in its own soil. Flintoff
could muster 5-58 against a 3rd rate team at best!!

Also, Flintoff looked great last summer when he made that 142 against
SA and got MOS. Aggy was nowhere then having missed playing in the
World
Cup. But come Dec, he shook India atleast with his performance in Aus
and shut his critics well. Now, for all of Flintoff's escapades with
the
bat this summer, lets see how Aggy responds later this year in the
season
ahead!!!

But once and for all, lets put this arguement to rest. Agarkar is a
2nd seamer
who can bat a bit in the tail whereas Flintoff is a 4th seamer
all-rounder.
This shouldn't stop us from enjoying their escapades, be it with the
ball or bat. Personally, i think both are coming of age gradually
after having a roller coaster ride at the beginning of their careers
for a few years.

RJ [who likes watching Flintoff bat]

 
 
 

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by Dominic Shield » Mon, 02 Aug 2004 02:46:40



Quote:
>But once and for all, lets put this arguement to rest. Agarkar is a
>2nd seamer
>who can bat a bit in the tail whereas Flintoff is a 4th seamer
>all-rounder.

Try telling that to Brian Lara
 
 
 

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by Dominic Shield » Mon, 02 Aug 2004 02:58:30

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:46:40 +0100, Dominic Shields

Quote:



>>But once and for all, lets put this arguement to rest. Agarkar is a
>>2nd seamer
>>who can bat a bit in the tail whereas Flintoff is a 4th seamer
>>all-rounder.

>Try telling that to Brian Lara

Sorry, I just used Statsguru and realised I have been trolled - fair
enough I walked into it.

         Mat  Runs  HS   BatAv 100  50   W    BB  BowlAv 5w  Ct St

Flintoff  37  1689 142   29.63   3  10  77  5/58   38.72  1  23  0
Agarkar 21   420 109*  14.00   1   0   52  6/41   44.34  1   4  0

 
 
 

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by Loony Tune » Mon, 02 Aug 2004 03:10:39


<applying standard RSC switch>

Why dont you check Flintoff and Aggy's ODI bowling performances?

After you are done with that, check Flintoff and Aggy's first 15 matches.
They are a true indicator of the potential one has. The rest depends on
whether the selectors let you in, how fit you are, where you play etc etc.
You will spend the next few years of your life doing that to no avail.

cheers
loony

 
 
 

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by Kool B » Mon, 02 Aug 2004 10:03:55

Quote:



> > With his 167 against WI, Flitntoff has officialy overtaken Aggy as
> > world's leading allrounder.

> Let Flintoff come up with a performance better than 6-41 AGAINST AUS IN AUS
> and then we will talk.
> Who cares about a useless 167 against a depleted, demoralized, defunct bunch
> of tomato throwers.

> cheers
> loony

For your wish to come true, Flintoff will have to wait a long long
time to visit Aus.  Before that the Aussies have to face the wrath of
Flintoff in England next year.  Could be fun!
 
 
 

It's Official, FLINTOFF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGARKAR

Post by Dominic Shield » Mon, 02 Aug 2004 17:59:56

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:10:39 -0500, "Loony Tunes"

Quote:



><applying standard RSC switch>

>Why dont you check Flintoff and Aggy's ODI bowling performances?

>After you are done with that, check Flintoff and Aggy's first 15 matches.
>They are a true indicator of the potential one has. The rest depends on
>whether the selectors let you in, how fit you are, where you play etc etc.
>You will spend the next few years of your life doing that to no avail.

So, suppose someone has a mediocre start but is persisted with as an
automatic choice because there just doesn't seem to be anyone better
around. After about 20 matches he finds his feet and becomes a world
class performer and finishes his career with 300 wickets at 22.
According to your logic this person would be not as good as someone
who has a dream start but gets worked out and finishes their career
with 100 wickets at 45 ?

There is very little point continuing this as before I checked
Statsguru I was convinced from the build-up he was getting that I was
going to find Agarkar had 150 test wickets at 25, the reality is far
more comical.

Does anyone actually watch One Day Internationals any more ? They
killed any interest I once had with these interminable triangular
jokes. If I can be bothered to watch one I genuinely don't care who
wins, they are like fast food, you don't remember one by the next day.