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Questions;

a) any arguments there?

b) What about the 'legal delivery' part of gold and diamond ducks? If
the first delivery I face is a wide, and I run, but get run out.. what
kind of duck would you call that?

c) If my first ball is a no-ball, and the next ball I get out (for
zero runs) is that a duck or a golden duck?

d) I've once scored a diamond duck, but not standard ducks, and
someone asked "have you ever got a duck", would you answer;

i) Yes, but it was a diamond
ii) No, but I once got a diamond duck

ie does "duck" in that question cover all 3 types.

thank you all :)

this is for some scoring software, so any input would be most
appreciated

Geoff M

1 ) if out caught  - I didn't hit the ball  ( even if the catch was taken on
the boundary )

2) if out LBW  - I hit the ball

3) if out bowled or run out - they appealed before the bails were below the
level of the stumps and the air from the appeal deflected the bails so they
couldn't resttle

snip

thanks Geoff, that all makes sense. I was a bit lazy with my
definitions, plus I missed some stuff.

What about these tweaks;

Duck
Getting out without scoring.

Golden Duck
Getting out, without scoring, during/on your first legal delivery. Is
considered a "duck", but not a "diamond duck".

Diamond Duck
Getting out, without scoring, without having faced a legal delivery.
Is considered a "duck", but not a "golden duck".

Questions;

e) scenario: first ball is legal, we score a leg bye. Next ball I am
run out. No runs scored plus 1 legal delivery faced. Golden duck, or
just duck? I'd be inclined to say "Duck, not golden".

f) If there was a club called "The SuperDuper, Fantastic Golden Duck
Club" should someone with JUST a diamond duck be able to join it?

thanks for your input

talk to Andrew about that, please. You KNOW I've no idea what's going
on.

talk to Andrew about that, please. You KNOW I've no idea what's going
on.

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neither do I. I subscribe to rsc

thanks Geoff, that all makes sense. I was a bit lazy with my
definitions, plus I missed some stuff.

What about these tweaks;

Duck
Getting out without scoring.

Golden Duck
Getting out, without scoring, during/on your first legal delivery. Is
considered a "duck", but not a "diamond duck".

Diamond Duck
Getting out, without scoring, without having faced a legal delivery.
Is considered a "duck", but not a "golden duck".

Questions;

e) scenario: first ball is legal, we score a leg bye. Next ball I am
run out. No runs scored plus 1 legal delivery faced. Golden duck, or
just duck? I'd be inclined to say "Duck, not golden".

f) If there was a club called "The SuperDuper, Fantastic Golden Duck
Club" should someone with JUST a diamond duck be able to join it?

thanks for your input
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e)  Just an ordinary duck. This doesn't fit the criteria for a golden duck -
see the word "your" in the definition.

f)   If you get a golden duck in any other innings you qualify. :-)  BTW if
this is for some software I assume that players will play many games - maybe
you can make membership  of that super club only open to players who have
"scored" ten GDs.

Saw Barry Richards get a Diamond duck once, which just about ruined
the day for me.

Mike Gooding
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4) Not out Duck after playing a few balls
5) Not out Duck without facing a ball
6) Valiant Duck, saving a match with 0*
7) Good Samaritan Duck (Scored a duck, but had a 250 run partnership)
8) Duck on Debut

1) Peking Duck
A sumptuous, stroke-filled innings, filled with delicate cuts,
like thin strands of scallion, along with the rich hoisin sauce
of more vigorous strokes off the meat of the bat, all of which
go straight into the pancake hands of fielders preventing any
scoring.

2) Bombay Duck
A smelly, chance-filled innings before the batsman is out without
scoring.

3) Duck a l'Orange
A duck in French Cricket.

[By some freak of fate, the validation word in Google Groups --
yes, I'm bad -- is "ingest".]

I think 99.9% of cricketers would say you must get out for any kind of
duck.

Very good additions!  Especially "Bombay Duck".
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