I can't believe Laxman is NOT in the team - Allan Donald

I can't believe Laxman is NOT in the team - Allan Donald

Post by Sampat » Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:25:55


http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/269577....

India will miss Laxman and Ganguly

Allan Donald

November 24, 2006

The way South Africa went off the blocks was tremendous. If that's the
standard they are going to set, it's going to be the trend in the Tests as
well.

India's batting collapse makes me believe they are a batter or two short on
this trip. I can't believe that VVS Laxman has been left out, for he is a
magnificent player.

As the series goes on, I suspect the Indians are going to more and more miss
the Laxmans and Gangulys they have left back home.

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I can't believe Laxman is NOT in the team - Allan Donald

Post by SultanOfSwin » Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:04:47

Quote:

> http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/269577....

> India will miss Laxman and Ganguly

> Allan Donald

> November 24, 2006

> The way South Africa went off the blocks was tremendous. If that's the
> standard they are going to set, it's going to be the trend in the Tests as
> well.

> India's batting collapse makes me believe they are a batter or two short on
> this trip. I can't believe that VVS Laxman has been left out, for he is a
> magnificent player.

> As the series goes on, I suspect the Indians are going to more and more miss
> the Laxmans and Gangulys they have left back home.

   It is pretty obvious from the start of this tour that we would be
missing
   Laxman on this tour. Yuvraj's absence due to injury has opened up
   a big gaping hole in the middle order. I'm not so sure about
Ganguly,
   but Laxman is definitely needed at no.3. And Raina should be
   dropped immediately. I think he has been given too long a rope, and
   the time for his axing should have come after the ICC Champions'
   Trophy. He should go back and play domestic cricket. He will
   comeback stronger from that experience.

   Of course, we will have the usual RSC jokers opposing Laxman's
   inclusion on the grounds of his "alleged" lack of fitness and poor
   fielding skills. As if Raina is another *Jonty Rhodes*. Even Jonty
   Rhodes had to perform with the bat to maintain his place in the
   South African ODI and Test squad. And he was a much *better*
   batsman than the hyped-up Raina and Kaif.

   Also it's time for Chappello to pack up his bags and leave for
   Australia. All his experiments have been utter failures and
   India's recent performances (especially in ODI's) have been
   going from bad to worse.

 
 
 

I can't believe Laxman is NOT in the team - Allan Donald

Post by shariq_ta.. » Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:52:54

Quote:

> http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/269577....

> India will miss Laxman and Ganguly

> Allan Donald

> November 24, 2006

> The way South Africa went off the blocks was tremendous. If that's the
> standard they are going to set, it's going to be the trend in the Tests as
> well.

> India's batting collapse makes me believe they are a batter or two short on
> this trip. I can't believe that VVS Laxman has been left out, for he is a
> magnificent player.

> As the series goes on, I suspect the Indians are going to more and more miss
> the Laxmans and Gangulys they have left back home.

> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

As much as I like Ganguly I don't think he deserves a place in the
current side especially on the kind of wickets India is likely to
encounter in South Africa and West Indies. Now Laxman is altogether a
different proposition. It's not so much because his technique is
watertight but rather because he has more time to play the ball than
almost anyone in the current Indian side, Rahul Dravid and Sachin
Tendulkar included

 
 
 

I can't believe Laxman is NOT in the team - Allan Donald

Post by Sampat » Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:57:55


Quote:


>> http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/269577....

>> India will miss Laxman and Ganguly

>> Allan Donald

>> November 24, 2006

>> The way South Africa went off the blocks was tremendous. If that's the
>> standard they are going to set, it's going to be the trend in the Tests
>> as
>> well.

>> India's batting collapse makes me believe they are a batter or two short
>> on
>> this trip. I can't believe that VVS Laxman has been left out, for he is a
>> magnificent player.

>> As the series goes on, I suspect the Indians are going to more and more
>> miss
>> the Laxmans and Gangulys they have left back home.

>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

> As much as I like Ganguly I don't think he deserves a place in the
> current side especially on the kind of wickets India is likely to
> encounter in South Africa and West Indies. Now Laxman is altogether a
> different proposition. It's not so much because his technique is
> watertight but rather because he has more time to play the ball than
> almost anyone in the current Indian side, Rahul Dravid and Sachin
> Tendulkar included

I didnt think ganguly should be in the team which is why I excluded gangulys
name in the title thread.

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I can't believe Laxman is NOT in the team - Allan Donald

Post by Mike Holman » Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:25:20


tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

Quote:
>   It is pretty obvious from the start of this tour that we would be
>missing
>   Laxman on this tour. Yuvraj's absence due to injury has opened up
>   a big gaping hole in the middle order. I'm not so sure about
>Ganguly,
>   but Laxman is definitely needed at no.3. And Raina should be
>   dropped immediately. I think he has been given too long a rope, and
>   the time for his axing should have come after the ICC Champions'
>   Trophy. He should go back and play domestic cricket. He will
>   comeback stronger from that experience.
<snip>

>   Also it's time for Chappello to pack up his bags and leave for
>   Australia. All his experiments have been utter failures and
>   India's recent performances (especially in ODI's) have been
>   going from bad to worse.

The question which occurs to me in that case is whether Chappell is
somewhat unfortunate in the timing of his tenure.

I've no opinion on whether Laxman should be in the odo team in
November 2006, but it's surely the case that he won't be worth having
around in 2008. If Ganguly has a shelf-life left, which I doubt, it's
surely even shorter. Tendulkar's time horizon would also seem to be
limited.

India, having had a tremendous generation of odo players who all
peaked together, just about, have now got to put together a new
release of IndianCricket for the ODO platform.

In those circumstances, how much sense does it make to go back to a
player whose main qualification is that he isn't as bad as the current
lot, even if he is getting on a bit?

Also, it's not as though it's Chappell who's picking the squads and
leaving Laxman out: that's the selectors' doing, and it's clear from
what Wright had to say that the coach doesn't get much of a look-in on
squad selection matters when there are all those zonal interests to
resolve.

Chappell may well be a dreadful coach, but it strikes me that any
coach of India is going to have to do a lot of experimentation over
the next year or so as a new team takes shape.

Cheers,

Mike
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I can't believe Laxman is NOT in the team - Allan Donald

Post by Sampat » Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:29:37


Quote:

> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

>>   It is pretty obvious from the start of this tour that we would be
>>missing
>>   Laxman on this tour. Yuvraj's absence due to injury has opened up
>>   a big gaping hole in the middle order. I'm not so sure about
>>Ganguly,
>>   but Laxman is definitely needed at no.3. And Raina should be
>>   dropped immediately. I think he has been given too long a rope, and
>>   the time for his axing should have come after the ICC Champions'
>>   Trophy. He should go back and play domestic cricket. He will
>>   comeback stronger from that experience.
> <snip>

>>   Also it's time for Chappello to pack up his bags and leave for
>>   Australia. All his experiments have been utter failures and
>>   India's recent performances (especially in ODI's) have been
>>   going from bad to worse.

> The question which occurs to me in that case is whether Chappell is
> somewhat unfortunate in the timing of his tenure.

Good teams hire coaches with the expectation the new coach gets them to the
next level ie GREAT TEAM.

Stop giving excuses for Chappells failure to turn Indian team into a GREAT
one.

Quote:
> I've no opinion on whether Laxman should be in the odo team in
> November 2006, but it's surely the case that he won't be worth having
> around in 2008.

World cup is in three months in 2007.

Helllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooo.

Quote:
>If Ganguly has a shelf-life left, which I doubt, it's
> surely even shorter. Tendulkar's time horizon would also seem to be
> limited.

> India, having had a tremendous generation of odo players who all
> peaked together, just about, have now got to put together a new
> release of IndianCricket for the ODO platform.

Dravid, Laxman, Yuvraj, Sehwag, Harby, M Patel, SreeSanth and
Dhoni (if properly nurtured) can form the core of the team and Sachin still
has some juice left.

Losing ganguly is no big deal.

Quote:
> In those circumstances, how much sense does it make to go back to a
> player whose main qualification is that he isn't as bad as the current
> lot, even if he is getting on a bit?

Laxman is a genius compared to the useless natwest final fluke kaif, raw
Raina and another useless Mongia.
And moreover Laxman still had that INSATIABLE HUNGER for runs and playing in
a Worldcup.

IIRC he scored two CLASSY and brilliant centuries in Challengers last year
which were meant for OD selections and still got the raw end of the stick by
the stupid immature selectors who has the same IQ as you have.

You lived up to the reputation of your name HOLLOWMAN.

Quote:
> Also, it's not as though it's Chappell who's picking the squads and
> leaving Laxman out: that's the selectors' doing,

Idiot.

Chappell said many times he didnt see future for laxman in Indian OD team
and ganguly even told it to laxman and it was all over media last year.

Chappell never denied it either.

Quote:
>and it's clear from
> what Wright had to say that the coach doesn't get much of a look-in on
> squad selection matters when there are all those zonal interests to
> resolve.

Chappell would have got laxman into OD team if NOT for his STUPID OBSESSION
with young players who can field like the useless kaif and inexperienced and
raw raina.

Quote:
> Chappell may well be a dreadful coach,

ACCEPT the FACT Chappell is a dreadful coach.

I myself supported Chappell initially because a new coach should be given
some time to mould the team. But he failed MISERABLY and its time for this
useless and overpaid Chappell to go. I dont see him changing the fortunes of
Indian cricket in the future either.

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