> Just a reminder : Lara is a Trinidadian, Trinidad is the most
> diversified, multi-cultural country in the world (well, Jackson Heights is
> the number one, but it is not a country).
Disagree. The US (thans to Jackson heights (-:) has won that match and
collected the trophy long ago.
>No Trinidadian should ever be
> compared to Farrakan et al,
Since Farrakhan, who is American, is a bigoted demagogue and a racist,
there's no reason to believe (sadly) that anybody from any country is immune
to this affliction.
> it is impossible. Lara, like Viv, and like all
> of us, are entitled to remember and voice our opinions. And, on any
> apartheid in SA, slavery, the colonial days in India, Africa, the West
> Indies, Nazism, whatever.
Of course we are all entitled to voice our opinions. Even Farrakhan, the
guttersnipe that he is, is entitled to his opinions. What we have to ensure
is that the forum at which we make those statements is appropriate. If Lara
had written an Op-Ed piece or had made those statements at a bar in Port of
Spain, I will have no bones to pick with him (save for the fact he is
ignorant). However, he has no business to say these things during a WC
tournament. For instance, Israeli outrage and anguish at the slaughter of
their athletes in the Munich Olympics, an event paid for by Muslim money
from the Arab middle east, is well known and entirely understandable. But
that does not give any Israeli player the right to say - before or after
say, a 1500 meter track event, that he thinks that the Arabs are barbarians.
Or for that matter, Muralitharan may feel that the Aussies are racist, but
he cannot make that statement during or immediately after a test match while
on Aussie soil (unless he was commenting on a specific event during the
match, where his statement was necessary to explain some person's behavior
during the match). If he were to make the same comment after the series is
over, to the press (or at somebody's dinner table), he would be exercising
his right to hold (absurd) opinions and air them. Would you find it
acceptable if Tendulkar or Akram were to call Pak/India as terrorists/bully
immediately after a test while a tour is on?
The issue is not about the historical accuracy or the logical consistency of
Lara's statements but whether a WC tournament is an appropriate venue for
airing, private, incoherent rage at opposing teams. There are rules that
need be followed, more so when you are touring a foreign country, to ensure
that the tour does not degenerate into a mud slinging contest.
>History is NOT bunk, never will be.
Neither is Geography (-: Lara was in India and not in his backyard.
ravi (and BTW, if Lara did a read a little bit of (non-cultural)
Anthropology, he'd realize that RSA and indeed Trinidad, India, Indonesia
and most of the world are all in the same boat, just that our 'crimes'
happened at different points in time) aron.
> >> I read some of the posts on the Mr.*** sweepstakes. While (IMO)
> >> is slightly ahead of Ponting, we seem to have forgotten Lara's infamous
> >> remark.
> >> When the WC was held in India, WI (iirc) defeated RSA in a match that
> >> counter to pundit expectations and lost to Kenya. Lara made an
> >> remark, the ugliest I've ever known any cricketer to have ever made,
> >> something about loosing to RSA would be terrible because of what the
> >> had done to Blacks while Kenya was after all a fraternal country. This
> >> of the worst kind of racism to me.
> >> [ranting and raving snipped]
> >> Meanwhile the Laras and the Farrakhans
> >> walk away from the sulfurous statements they make about others.
> >Why are you lumping Brian Lara in the same category as Farrakhan? He is a
> bit of
> >a prima donna, but he is hardly a purveyor of hatred and intolerance. You
> >make a better--though just as grossly unfair--case that Lance Klusener
> >apartheid-- after all, he served in the infamous South African 'Defense'
> >during the DeKlerk regime, did he not?
> >--- Aneesh (who is losing patience with people like mr. aron, who equate
> >and Ponting).
> >> ravi (thinks Lara is a tremendous batsman and disgrace to cricket)