Umpire Hair saves Sth Africas pride

Umpire Hair saves Sth Africas pride

Post by hchan.. » Thu, 03 Feb 1994 13:50:04


Quote:

> Now that most of you Springboks or Proteas or whatever you want to be called
> have dried your tears and stopped holding your breath until your faces turn
> blue, put your dummies (aka pacifiers) back in and ceased to hyperventilate, we
> can all look at this umpiring thingy in a calm, objective manner.

> Umpire Daryl Hair is not a good umpire.

> He could even be called a bad umpire.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*** To say the least.

                 (Stuff Deleted)

Quote:
>  The question arises - just how
> are Umpire Hair and Keeper Richardson related? Waugh would most probably still
> be batting if not for the Hair-Richardson duo.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
***Did you really see the 2nd test or are you just arriving to conclusions?
If anyone has been "robbed" of his wicket during the Aus - Sa series, it
has been Dave (the keeper). Especially, in the 2nd test he and Jonty
were beginning to wrest the intiative from Australia in the 2nd innings
when Richardson was given out (ct behind or something, when he clearly didnt
touch the ball) for 24- ending a partnership of 72. As for S.Waugh being
"robbed", yes the umpiring has gone in favour of both sides, but has certainly
favoured Australia more than Sa. Again Dave was "robbed" of his wicket
(sa 2nd innings, 3rd test), that too at a very crucial stage. So I don't see
how you can relate the bad umpiring to "The Hair-Richardson duo", unless
you feel that they collaborated and Dave agreed to being unfairly out if
the same happened to S.Waugh :-). Unlikely isn't it :-)?

Quote:

> Face up to the facts that SAF never looked comfortable as a batting side this
> series, and were lucky to win the second test,

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
***Not luck, but sheer determination on behalf of the Sa players. There
were quite a few decisions which went against them (Dave, Symcox among others)
Agreed Aus were on top for 3/4 of the match, but you don't attribute Jonty's
magnificent 76* to *luck*. Neither do I think, can you say that Devilliers
snatched 10 wkts in the match due to *luck*.

Quote:

> South Africa really must thank Daryl Hair.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*** Peter Kirsten already did :-)

 Cheers............................................................Harish.

Quote:

> David Mudge


 
 
 

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Post by George Palm » Thu, 03 Feb 1994 16:14:14

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>Subject: Umpire Hair saves Sth Africas pride
>Date: 2 Feb 94 09:31:54 CST
>Now that most of you Springboks or Proteas or whatever you want to be called
>have dried your tears and stopped holding your breath until your faces turn
>blue, put your dummies (aka pacifiers) back in and ceased to hyperventilate, we
>can all look at this umpiring thingy in a calm, objective manner.
>Umpire Daryl Hair is not a good umpire.
>He could even be called a bad umpire.
>He has been called a bad umpire before (yes, even before this series, and even
>by Australians).

My qusetion is: If he is such a Sh*t umpire, and apparently has been for
some time, why was he there ? Do you have a shortage of umpires in Aus ?
I must admit that loosing is not a SA strong point, but to loose in such a
contraversial way, really irks me. I don't blame Aus (should I ?), for much
the same reason that I could not blame NZ had Hair been from there and then
so-called Neutral. I blame pure incompetence....!

Quote:
>top for the first 3/4 of the match. Most of their batsmen will need psychiatric
>help to overcome the shaking attacks they get whenever a certain stocky blond
>Aussie gets the red pill in hand.

Very True, but we are getting better at it.

Quote:
>South Africa really must thank Daryl Hair. Afterall, without him, they would

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, get a life, man !

Quote:
>recognition it deserves. I say, send Hair back to S.A. with his mates.

                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No thanks, I think you guys should keep him. Maybe as target practice for
your military. Won't move very fast with that belly though.

Quote:
>David Mudge


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Post by Salman Azh » Fri, 04 Feb 1994 01:16:55

Quote:

>Umpire Daryl Hair is not a good umpire.

           Agreed!

Quote:
>He could even be called a bad umpire.

           Agreed!

Quote:
>He has been called a bad umpire before (yes, even before this series, and even
>by Australians).

           He is one of two Aussie nominees ont eh International panel...
I hate to think how umpring standards are in Australia.

Quote:
>[rest of Aussie apology for winnings deleted]

:)

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Post by Andrew Heal » Fri, 04 Feb 1994 09:53:04

: My qusetion is: If he is such a Sh*t umpire, and apparently has been for
: some time, why was he there ? Do you have a shortage of umpires in Aus ?

Unfortunately yes...for test level. Also unfortunately for your country,
you have not had the chance to be exposed to matches here 10 - 12 years
ago when Aussie umpiring was very good.
Seemingly, umpiring expertise goes in cycles too. RSA thus became an
unfortunate victim of a historical accident (or the ***of a cosmic
practical joke!), in meeting Mr Hair.

Let's hope Hair today...gone tommorrow :-)

A.

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Post by mu.. » Thu, 03 Feb 1994 18:31:54

Now that most of you Springboks or Proteas or whatever you want to be called
have dried your tears and stopped holding your breath until your faces turn
blue, put your dummies (aka pacifiers) back in and ceased to hyperventilate, we
can all look at this umpiring thingy in a calm, objective manner.

Umpire Daryl Hair is not a good umpire.

He could even be called a bad umpire.

He has been called a bad umpire before (yes, even before this series, and even
by Australians).

Remember the last test of last summer at Adelaide Oval, against the West
Indies? Aust. was 0-1 down going into the match and hadn't even drawn a series
against the Windies for x years. We needed 3 runs to win with McDermott facing
up and 1 wicket in hand. Then Curtly (was it?) bowled a bouncer at Craig who
went for a wild hook, seemingly missing the world, and That-Finger went up,
giving him out caught behind. Bias? I think not, unless Umpire Hair has the
same pigmentation disorder as Michael Jackson. Bad umpiring? Maybe.

Also consider how Steve Waugh must feel. Hair ruined his test average for the
summer. At 164 n.o. in the first innings of the Adelaide test, Waugh would have
been quite happy with his average of around 330 for the 4 tests this summer.
Then he got a ball which left a 6 cm depression in his thigh pad, while his bat
was waving in the direction of Point, and was given out caught behind by The
Man. Then in the second dig, he did what all good batsmen do at the start of
their innings - play the ball into the ground - and was again given out caught
behind, his average tumbling to a meagre 110. The question arises - just how
are Umpire Hair and Keeper Richardson related? Waugh would most probably still
be batting if not for the Hair-Richardson duo.

Face up to the facts that SAF never looked comfortable as a batting side this
series, and were lucky to win the second test, where Australia were clearly on
top for the first 3/4 of the match. Most of their batsmen will need psychiatric
help to overcome the shaking attacks they get whenever a certain stocky blond
Aussie gets the red pill in hand.

South Africa really must thank Daryl Hair. Afterall, without him, they would
have no excuse for losing one and being outplayed in another test, and their
pride would _really_ be hurt. They would have to admit that were the second
best team of the series. Australia, on the other hand, is not getting the
recognition it deserves. I say, send Hair back to S.A. with his mates.

David Mudge

 
 
 

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Post by Phil She » Fri, 04 Feb 1994 18:43:47

Quote:

>Umpire Daryl Hair is not a good umpire.

Hmmm

Quote:
>He could even be called a bad umpire.

Ah

Quote:
>He has been called a bad umpire before (yes, even before this series, and even
>by Australians).

Bingo, must be saying something about the rest that he is one on the board
and off to England.

Quote:
>Remember the last test of last summer at Adelaide Oval, against the West
>Indies? Aust. was 0-1 down going into the match and hadn't even drawn a series
>against the Windies for x years. We needed 3 runs to win with McDermott facing
>up and 1 wicket in hand. Then Curtly (was it?) bowled a bouncer at Craig who
>went for a wild hook, seemingly missing the world, and That-Finger went up,
>giving him out caught behind. Bias? I think not, unless Umpire Hair has the
>same pigmentation disorder as Michael Jackson. Bad umpiring? Maybe.

 Oh thats it, and I thought it was because Michael Jackson use little ...
better not that might be too risque. Good recollection.
Australia was 1-0 up.
2 runs to win.
Courtney Walsh bowling.
Craig McDermott trying to leave a ball.
Ball follows into the batsman, glances glove, glances helmet and is caught
(for once) by Murray
 I make that 5 inaccuracies and given you stated 8 crickets
what you got right was Adelaide Oval, the West Indies and Hair was somewhere
at the ground, wether he was the umpire I don't know. Sort of undermines
your credibility doesn't it?

Quote:
>Also consider how Steve Waugh must feel. Hair ruined his test average for the
>summer. At 164 n.o. in the first innings of the Adelaide test, Waugh would have
>been quite happy with his average of around 330 for the 4 tests this summer.
>Then he got a ball which left a 6 cm depression in his thigh pad, while his bat
>was waving in the direction of Point, and was given out caught behind by The
>Man. Then in the second dig, he did what all good batsmen do at the start of
>their innings - play the ball into the ground - and was again given out caught
>behind, his average tumbling to a meagre 110. The question arises - just how
>are Umpire Hair and Keeper Richardson related? Waugh would most probably still
>be batting if not for the Hair-Richardson duo.

 Bullshit, Steven Waugh was out both times, and incredibly misbehaved
and got away with it because Kirsten behaved even worse. I'm sorry I'm
wondering if you need a new pair of glasses along with a memory upgrade.

Quote:
>Face up to the facts that SAF never looked comfortable as a batting side this
>series, and were lucky to win the second test, where Australia were clearly on
>top for the first 3/4 of the match. Most of their batsmen will need psychiatric
>help to overcome the shaking attacks they get whenever a certain stocky blond
>Aussie gets the red pill in hand.

 That is the biggest load of tripe I've heard. They may be waring but
not quaking in there boots especailly if as expected Warne aint quite
turning them square.

Quote:
>South Africa really must thank Daryl Hair. Afterall, without him, they would
>have no excuse for losing one and being outplayed in another test, and their
>pride would _really_ be hurt. They would have to admit that were the second
>best team of the series. Australia, on the other hand, is not getting the
>recognition it deserves. I say, send Hair back to S.A. with his mates.

 I understand Daryl Hair is writing a book, and starting to do chat shows
such is the publicity this has generated not to mention officiating
in the next South Africa-England series.
 
 
 

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Post by Mark Imisid » Sat, 05 Feb 1994 06:13:30

________________________________________________________________

Quote:

> Now that most of you Springboks or Proteas or whatever you want to be called
> have dried your tears and stopped holding your breath until your faces turn
> blue, put your dummies (aka pacifiers) back in and ceased to hyperventilate, we
> can all look at this umpiring thingy in a calm, objective manner.

> Umpire Daryl Hair is not a good umpire.

> He could even be called a bad umpire.

> He has been called a bad umpire before (yes, even before this series, and even
> by Australians).

> Remember the last test of last summer at Adelaide Oval, against the West
> Indies? Aust. was 0-1 down going into the match and hadn't even drawn a series
> against the Windies for x years. We needed 3 runs to win with McDermott facing
> up and 1 wicket in hand. Then Curtly (was it?) bowled a bouncer at Craig who
> went for a wild hook, seemingly missing the world, and That-Finger went up,
> giving him out caught behind. Bias? I think not, unless Umpire Hair has the
> same pigmentation disorder as Michael Jackson. Bad umpiring? Maybe.

Wrong umpire - it was Len King (who's even worse than Hair).

Quote:
> Also consider how Steve Waugh must feel. Hair ruined his test average for the
> summer. At 164 n.o. in the first innings of the Adelaide test, Waugh would have
> been quite happy with his average of around 330 for the 4 tests this summer.
> Then he got a ball which left a 6 cm depression in his thigh pad, while his bat
> was waving in the direction of Point, and was given out caught behind by The
> Man. Then in the second dig, he did what all good batsmen do at the start of
> their innings - play the ball into the ground - and was again given out caught
> behind, his average tumbling to a meagre 110. The question arises - just how
> are Umpire Hair and Keeper Richardson related? Waugh would most probably still
> be batting if not for the Hair-Richardson duo.

Yeah - this sort of thing's happened to Stevie before. Bummer.
 
 
 

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Post by Mark Imisid » Sat, 05 Feb 1994 09:01:32

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Quote:

>  Bullshit, Steven Waugh was out both times,

Eh??
 
 
 

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Post by Jon Thackr » Wed, 09 Feb 1994 21:11:43

   Pakistan had a series in England where they
   believed they were being cheated by one of
   the more respected umps in the game- David
   Constant (or was it Sheppherd?)

It was Constant. We think he's no good too. Noone, as far as I know,
has ever accused either Shepperd or Bird of cheating or bias, and
rarely of incompetence, though there is some feeling that***ie's
getting a bit old.
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Post by Salman Azh » Thu, 10 Feb 1994 02:07:40

Quote:

>It was Constant. We think he's no good too. Noone, as far as I know,
>has ever accused either Shepperd or Bird of cheating or bias, and
>rarely of incompetence, though there is some feeling that***ie's
>getting a bit old.


           Bird was the best we saw in the last couple of decades, but I
agree he is growing a bit old.  Shepperd may very well be the best
english ump these days.

           I hope I don't get flamed about the Bird opinion again,
especially if it is authenticated by someone else who knows the
current sentiments in Int'l cricket.

           DS[Q]A

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has accentuated the intellectual, moral, and spiritual degradation of
the literate masses"               ------- D. Salman Azhar

 
 
 

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Post by Syed M. A » Thu, 10 Feb 1994 03:22:07

|>    Pakistan had a series in England where they
|>    believed they were being cheated by one of
|>    the more respected umps in the game- David
|>    Constant (or was it Sheppherd?)
|>
|> It was Constant. We think he's no good too. Noone, as far as I know,

Apparently, the TCCB didn't think so.....Constant, if I'm correct, made his
appearance in a later series too despite the Pakistani protest.

|> has ever accused either Shepperd or Bird of cheating or bias, and
|> rarely of incompetence, though there is some feeling that***ie's
|> getting a bit old.

Exactly....an umpire first has to built his reputation.  That's why nobody
blamed***ie Bird when he failed to give out an Aussie batsman in the 1987 WC
semi-final when the batsman was at least a yard outside his crease.  (I
believe the batsman was Dean Jones???).

Yeah,  IMHO, Bird should retire while he's still respected as an unbiased
umpire.  There's a danger if he starts making few more mistakes, people will
be only too quick to label him as a cheat.


Syed
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Post by Shamim Naq » Thu, 10 Feb 1994 04:31:25

Quote:

>    Pakistan had a series in England where they
>    believed they were being cheated by one of
>    the more respected umps in the game- David
>    Constant (or was it Sheppherd?)

> It was Constant. We think he's no good too. Noone, as far as I know,
> has ever accused either Shepperd or Bird of cheating or bias, and
> rarely of incompetence, though there is some feeling that***ie's
> getting a bit old.
> --

Quite right. Every player respects Bird and Shepherd. Even when they
make mistakes it is attributed to a mistake, not bias. The players
have confidence in them.

The issue with umpire Constant was entirely avoidable, if I may say
so. What happened is that on the tour of 1983, Constant gave Sikandar
Bakht out bat-and-pad when basically Pakistan were trying to save the
game. The players felt that this was a blatantly wrong decision (not
biased, wrong). So, on the next tour (in 1987), before the series
started, the manager of the team, Haseeb Ahsan, requested the TCCB in
a private meeting to not appoint umpire Constant to the test panel
because Constant did not enjoy the confidence of the players. The TCCB
not only declined but made Haseeb's request public and obviously the
tabloid press took over. At this point, the team felt that Constant
was being thrust upon them and that the issue had gone beyond errors
to bias. The rest as we all know is a sad history.

Shamim

 
 
 

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Post by Shamim Naq » Thu, 10 Feb 1994 04:47:52

Quote:

>       Bird was the best we saw in the last couple of decades, but I
> agree he is growing a bit old.  Shepperd may very well be the best
> english ump these days.

>       I hope I don't get flamed about the Bird opinion again,
> especially if it is authenticated by someone else who knows the
> current sentiments in Int'l cricket.

>       DS[Q]A

For whatever it is worth, both the WI and Pakistan players in March
1993 felt that Bird's age had become a factor. I know that he asked me
three times in 15 minutes whether the toss had happened at the Antigua
test.

Of course, Salman, you may (will?) still get flamed.

Shamim