sachin's record in consistency - depends on ur point of view

sachin's record in consistency - depends on ur point of view

Post by Shivaram Subramania » Sat, 07 Mar 1998 04:00:00


 just curious to know the number of tests in which sachin has scored 50+ in
both innings. if somebody has this info, could he please post it?? what
other measures of (in) consistency would be useful here??

- shivaram

 
 
 

sachin's record in consistency - depends on ur point of view

Post by Subbarao G.S.S » Sat, 07 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>  just curious to know the number of tests in which sachin has scored 50+ in
> both innings. if somebody has this info, could he please post it?? what
> other measures of (in) consistency would be useful here??

> - shivaram

Would you consider the average? Obviously that has been used since ages
as the single criterion to measure the consistency of all batsmen.

 
 
 

sachin's record in consistency - depends on ur point of view

Post by Shalabh Moha » Sat, 07 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Dunno about that but Sachin has scored 32 50's (14 100's & 18 50's) in 58
tests which gives him a consistency ratio of 0.551 per test. In fact this
is one of the highest ones around. It also means that he scores a 50 every
1.8 tests. To put in perspective, Richards has figures of 0.57 & 1.75. And
it should come as no surprise that the highest is by a certain Sir Donald
George Bradman who has figures of 0.80 & 1.23 respectively. It's amazing
to know that he scored 42 50's in 52 tests. Here's a table of some players
:

Player                  C/R per Test            Tests per 50
                        (or 50's per Test)

Sachin                  0.551                   1.8

Richards                0.57                    1.75

Bradman                 0.80                    1.23

Steve Waugh             0.50                    2.00

Aravinda De Silva       0.47                    2.125

Sanath Jayasuriya       0.5                     2.00

Evidently Bradman, Richrds & Sachin are amongst the best though Bradman is
in a different leauge altogether. A better way to evaluate consistency
would be to do it per innings since there are players who may have played
lesser tests but higher # of innings and vice-versa. I am working on it
and will post it soon. A new term called figure of merit (FOM) can be
coined to assess the players. Since higher the C/R the better the player &
higher the avearge the better the player the FOM can be ;

FOM = Ave. * C/R.

The higher the FOM the better the player is and it does away with
inconsistencies wherein a good player has a not so good average (Mark
Waugh for example, whose C/R is one of the highest, higher than Sachin
too). Sachin has this as 0.19 whereas Richards is somewhere around 0.17.
Will post a table soon.

Bouquets & Brickbats welcome.

Cheers,
Shalabh.

Quote:
>  just curious to know the number of tests in which sachin has scored 50+ in
> both innings. if somebody has this info, could he please post it?? what
> other measures of (in) consistency would be useful here??

> - shivaram


 
 
 

sachin's record in consistency - depends on ur point of view

Post by Shivaram Subramania » Sat, 07 Mar 1998 04:00:00

 Subbarao G.S.S. wrote in article ...

Quote:
>>Would you consider the average? Obviously that has been used since ages
>>as the single criterion to measure the consistency of all batsmen

i agree its a very good indicator and easy to use too.
however u also need to look at the variance.

 consider a crude example (assuming 5 innings opportunities for every 3 test
series set, say).
Batsman A: 0, 0, 0, 0, 200, 0, 0, 0..., 200, 0, ... variance = 40+-80 on an
average for each series
Batsman B: 50, 20, 10, 70, 50, 50, 20, 10, ... variance = 40+-22 on an
average for each series
both have the same average, and it depends on ur point of view as to what is
"consistency".
A looks more unpredictable relative to B (especially if we are given only
the mean and variance).
I can count on batsman B to score atleast 3 50-70s in every 3 -test series,
whereas batsman A gets a "big one" at least once. swaugh has consistently
scored runs, while mwaugh has consistently played some crucial innings.
 *no doubt* sachin is a great player, we wont need stats for that but -
 im still looking for that match *winning* 2nd innings from him when the
chips are down. maybe soon :-)

sorry for the long post, and thanks for the replies.
- shiva.

 
 
 

sachin's record in consistency - depends on ur point of view

Post by J Sreedha » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>  just curious to know the number of tests in which sachin has scored 50+ in
> both innings. if somebody has this info, could he please post it?? what
> other measures of (in) consistency would be useful here??

> - shivaram

Dunno about SRT in this regard, but there is a link on this subj

http://www-usa.cricket.org/link_to_database/STATS/TESTS/BATTING/MOST_...

Also, I included below the entire file in

http://www-usa.cricket.org/link_to_database/STATS/TESTS/BATTING/LEAD_...

Date-stamped : 10 Feb97 - 18:19

Consistent Batsmen

ALL TIME RANKING, QUALIFICATION: MIN. 2000 RUNS.
Consistency Ratio = Innings/50s

Based on all Tests up to and including
New Zealand v England at Wellington 06/02/1997

BATSMAN             T       I       RUNS    50s   CONS. RATIO
D.G.Bradman    Aus  52      80      6996    42      1.90
H.Sutcliffe    Eng  54      84      4555    39      2.15
R.G.Pollock    RSA  23      41      2256    18      2.28
J.B.Hobbs      Eng  61      102     5410    43      2.37
K.F.Barrington Eng  82      131     6806    55      2.38
E.deC.Weekes   WI   48      81      4455    34      2.38
B.C.Lara*      WI   38      64      3493    26      2.46
C.Walcott      WI   44      74      3978    29      2.56
K.D.Walters    Aus  74      125     5357    48      2.60
I.V.A.Richards WI   121     182     8540    69      2.63
L.Hutton       Eng  79      138     6971    52      2.65
G.A.Headley    WI   22      40      2190    15      2.67
M.E.Waugh*     Aus  60      97      4046    36      2.69
A.D.Nourse     RSA  34      62      2960    23      2.70
W.M.Woodfull   Aus  35      54      2300    20      2.70
S.M.Gavaskar   Ind  125     214     10122   79      2.71
E.J.Barlow     RSA  30      57      2516    21      2.71
G.S.Chappell   Aus  87      151     7110    55      2.74
B.Mitchell     RSA  42      80      3471    29      2.75

* denotes active players


 In this table, SRT would have a CR of 2.75
(32 50's in 88 innings).

CHEERS!!
--Sreedhar