why oh why tendulkar...why oh why

why oh why tendulkar...why oh why

Post by Shridha » Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:00:00


I know you played one of the best innings i could ever
watch..i know you played the innings of your life
considering the rivalry and opponent bowling attack
quality.... i know you shut the mouth of  "one idiot"
in rsc for good but why oh why did you have to gift your wicket
away with 1 full day remaining. Why couldn't you get the
rest of your runs in singles with just 14 runs needed and
with noone looking to have any  chance to get you out in your form.
Why did you have to go for the 3rd four in the same over and that
too of a bowler like Saqlain and that too trying to pull it
over long off from a ball pitched on the leg????????????

Shridhar["noone can get him out but himself"...is this phrase
becoming more common and thaking more relavance than ever??!!]

ps: what a match btw...still sore over the Ganguly fiasco......

 
 
 

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Post by Ravi Krishn » Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> I know you played one of the best innings i could ever
> watch..i know you played the innings of your life
> considering the rivalry and opponent bowling attack
> quality.... i know you shut the mouth of  "one idiot"
> in rsc for good but why oh why did you have to gift your wicket
> away with 1 full day remaining. Why couldn't you get the
> rest of your runs in singles with just 14 runs needed and
> with noone looking to have any  chance to get you out in your form.
> Why did you have to go for the 3rd four in the same over and that
> too of a bowler like Saqlain and that too trying to pull it
> over long off from a ball pitched on the leg????????????

> Shridhar["noone can get him out but himself"...is this phrase
> becoming more common and thaking more relavance than ever??!!]

> ps: what a match btw...still sore over the Ganguly fiasco......

Perhaps Tendulkar wanted to prove to you that "one idiot" is afterall
right that SRT can not (and probably never) win matches. :-)

RK- [ not to bash SRT, but to bash Shridhar ]

 
 
 

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Post by sjagad.. » Thu, 04 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> quality.... i know you shut the mouth of  "one idiot"
> in rsc for good but why oh why did you have to gift your wicket
> away with 1 full day remaining.

the sentiments are the same reg. tendulkar. what you must agree about is the
fact that by putting his head down and batting in classical test match
fashion, he transported himself to a different zone on his concentration.
that is what ravi and a whole lot of others including me, have been harping
on in our postings. instead of playing an odi inngs every time he goes out to
play, if only he'd been doing this earlier too ... but then this is indian
cricket !

however i dont think 'one full day' is an appropriate term. i think the team
would initially have been looking to get to 20 runs or so of the target by D4
end, resume hopefully with mongia and tendulkar still around on d5, finish it
off within an hour and get back victors. at least their play in the 2nd
session did give that impression

jagadish
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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

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Post by Paul » Thu, 04 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Hey guess what.... Tendulkar made a mistake/rashful shot and got out...

Makes him human after all.

I am sure he will carry more Indian innings in the future, and yes, win
them a few games along the way.

A shame he won't be able to win them the World Cup in June though...

Rgds,
P.



Quote:
> I know you played one of the best innings i could ever
> watch..i know you played the innings of your life
> considering the rivalry and opponent bowling attack
> quality.... i know you shut the mouth of  "one idiot"
> in rsc for good but why oh why did you have to gift your wicket
> away with 1 full day remaining. Why couldn't you get the
> rest of your runs in singles with just 14 runs needed and
> with noone looking to have any  chance to get you out in your form.
> Why did you have to go for the 3rd four in the same over and that
> too of a bowler like Saqlain and that too trying to pull it
> over long off from a ball pitched on the leg????????????

> Shridhar["noone can get him out but himself"...is this phrase
> becoming more common and thaking more relavance than ever??!!]

> ps: what a match btw...still sore over the Ganguly fiasco......

 
 
 

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Post by Ravi Krishn » Thu, 04 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>the sentiments are the same reg. tendulkar. what you must agree about is
>the
>fact that by putting his head down and batting in classical test match
>fashion, he transported himself to a different zone on his concentration.
>that is what ravi and a whole lot of others including me, have been harping
>on in our postings. instead of playing an odi inngs every time he goes >out to
>play, if only he'd been doing this earlier too ... but then this is indian
>cricket !

Looks like Indian cricket has been cursed. Just when SRT decided to play
like SMG, he gifted his wicket like kapil ( IMO Kapil must have the
dubious record of max. number of times throwing away his wkt).
On Jan 25 in the rediff chat SRT told "one man can't win or lose a
match". I wonder whether he will tell the same after Jan 31.

RK-

 
 
 

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Post by Will Sutto » Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


>>the sentiments are the same reg. tendulkar. what you must agree about is
>>the
>>fact that by putting his head down and batting in classical test match
>>fashion, he transported himself to a different zone on his concentration.
>>that is what ravi and a whole lot of others including me, have been harping
>>on in our postings. instead of playing an odi inngs every time he goes >out to
>>play, if only he'd been doing this earlier too ... but then this is indian
>>cricket !

>Looks like Indian cricket has been cursed. Just when SRT decided to play
>like SMG, he gifted his wicket like kapil ( IMO Kapil must have the
>dubious record of max. number of times throwing away his wkt).
>On Jan 25 in the rediff chat SRT told "one man can't win or lose a
>match". I wonder whether he will tell the same after Jan 31.

>RK-

Its funny but in the Eng v Aus Melb test Steve Waugh was abused
by quite a few people on here for not "taking the long handle"
to the bowling. He was accused of batting for his average.
And SRT does what a few wanted Waugh to do and now
SRT is copping some abuse.

What I am trying to say is this............. no matter what they do
some people will never be happy...

 
 
 

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Post by Ros.. » Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Looks like Indian cricket has been cursed.

Indian cricket team *was* cursed because SMG refused to score runs at a faster
rate even though he had a all the strokes.

Oh god please help. Let Sachin always play his natural aggressive game
irrespective of cricket-ignorant jagadish, RK & Harish's harpings. they dont
even realize that if Sachin hadn't played the way he played after tea we
wouldn't even have come close to victory. Please dont convert Sachin to a
loser as-per their wishes. We have one Dravid & thats enough.

When will they realize that test cricket is not gritting your teeth & play a
full-toss back to a bowler. It is conserving your mental strength & not
wasting them on useless deliveries.

The worst excuse given was Dravid got out to a good delivery. But nobody
realizes that it is Dravid himself with his negative approach who allows
bowlers to bowl a fair share of good deliveries to him by not attacking them

Confidence is the key for any bowler of any class. During your run-up if you
know the batsman is not going to score even if you bowl a bad ball, then your
confidence is almost doubled and you tend to bowl a great percentage of good
deliveries to batsmen like Dravid. OTOH if the bowler is bowling to SRT-on-
rampage he would be very nervous & clueless as to where to bowl to him which
messes his whole line & length and usually gifts easy balls to SRT.

Sachin, please dont listen to cricket-ignorants. You are great because of the
way you play. You are going to change the way test cricket is played and not
succumb to one-dimensional thinking which has given India only defeats.

"A bowler is as good as the batsman allows him to be"

Cheers,
Roshan [Learn from Afridi not Dravid]

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Post by Ravi Iyenga » Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> "A bowler is as good as the batsman allows him to be"
> Cheers,
> Roshan [Learn from Afridi not Dravid]

Atleast offer someone like say Richards as an example ....
Afridi?

ravi

 
 
 

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Post by sjagad.. » Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> Indian cricket team *was* cursed because SMG refused to score runs at a faster
> rate even though he had a all the strokes.

hah. indian cricket of the 70s-80s was cursed because there were few other
batsmen who supported gavaskar. highly inconsistent. if vishy performed then
wadekar wouldnt. if amarnath performed then vengsarkar wouldnt. if vengsarkar
performed then azhar wouldnt ... etc. etc. add in pedestrian bowling too.

Quote:
> even realize that if Sachin hadn't played the way he played after tea we
> wouldn't even have come close to victory. Please dont convert Sachin to a
> loser as-per their wishes. We have one Dravid & thats enough.

dear rsc psychiatrist, do you realize that if sachin had played his post
tea shots in the lunch-tea session, india would have gone to tea at 170/9.

Quote:
> The worst excuse given was Dravid got out to a good delivery. But nobody
> realizes that it is Dravid himself with his negative approach who allows
> bowlers to bowl a fair share of good deliveries to him by not attacking them

azhar got a bad decision -> excuse. dravid got out to a beauty -> bad excuse
:)

Quote:
> Roshan [Learn from Afridi not Dravid]

hahahahah

jagadish
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depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

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Post by Jai Nataraja » Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Is it possible that he was in utter agony from his
back spasms and realised he couldn't last longer ?
With 4 wkts in hand he was justified in trying to get as many
runs as he could before he collapsed. unfortunately so did the rest of them
:(

Whihc makes me wonder about the think tank. Perhaps he should have retired
hurt ?
A spot of physio, a shot of morphine and he might have come back
if needed. And with him in reserve the rest might have made
a braver***of getting those 16 runs.

oh well. 100 % hindsight ...

jai

Quote:

>I know you played one of the best innings i could ever
>watch..i know you played the innings of your life
>considering the rivalry and opponent bowling attack
>quality.... i know you shut the mouth of  "one idiot"
>in rsc for good but why oh why did you have to gift your wicket
>away with 1 full day remaining. Why couldn't you get the
>rest of your runs in singles with just 14 runs needed and
>with noone looking to have any  chance to get you out in your form.
>Why did you have to go for the 3rd four in the same over and that
>too of a bowler like Saqlain and that too trying to pull it
>over long off from a ball pitched on the leg????????????

>Shridhar["noone can get him out but himself"...is this phrase
>becoming more common and thaking more relavance than ever??!!]

>ps: what a match btw...still sore over the Ganguly fiasco......

 
 
 

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Post by Ravi Krishn » Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Indian cricket team *was* cursed because SMG refused to score runs at
> a faster
> rate even though he had a all the strokes.

But did it cost test matches. Please prove it. I don't recollect one
test match where SMG's slow scoring rate cost us a test match. OTOH
the pain of gifting away the wicket last Sunday evening will probably
hurt us for ever.

Quote:
>Oh god please help. Let Sachin always play his natural aggressive game
>irrespective of cricket-ignorant jagadish, RK & Harish's harpings.
>they dont even realize that if Sachin hadn't played the way he played

Oh yeah, Roshan Diwakar is a great talented cricketer. But for some bad
luck he should have taken the position of DBV. Some gems of Roshan:-

1. Kapil developed a bowling style which made him less effective outside
   India even where conditions suit fast bowlers.
2. ODI victory = test victory.
3. India is in top 3 test countries.

Quote:
> Please dont convert Sachin to a
> loser as-per their wishes. We have one Dravid & thats enough.

Last time I checked we lost the madras test. Now who is the loser.

Quote:
>The worst excuse given was Dravid got out to a good delivery. But
>nobody realizes that it is Dravid himself with his negative approach
>who allows bowlers to bowl a fair share of good deliveries to him by
>not attacking them

One more office lunch time jokes.

Quote:
>Confidence is the key for any bowler of any class. During your run-up
>if you know the batsman is not going to score even if you bowl a bad
>ball, then your confidence is almost doubled and you tend to bowl a
>great percentage of good deliveries to batsmen like Dravid. OTOH if the
>bowler is bowling to SRT-on-rampage he would be very nervous &
>clueless as to where to bowl to him which messes his whole line &
>length and usually gifts easy balls to SRT.

Oh really, pray tell from where you got this idea. From your local
doodhwala or paanwala.
Year back (around 1989) Akram was asked about the best players he has
bowled to in test cricket. He told SMG and Viv Richards.
SMG:- "a technically perfect batsman. you have to toil for his wicket.
he just will not give you any chance. How I wish I could get him out in
test cricket".
Viv Richards "a batsman who can destroy any attack but you always get a
feeling that you have a chance against him bcos he use to take too many
chances".

Quote:
> Sachin, please dont listen to cricket-ignorants.

Oh yeah please listen to this self-claimed university player.
If this is the calibre of university players in India, is it any
surprise we are such a pathetic cricket side. Afterall guys like Roshan
only eventually end up playing for india.
More than 90% of your posting don't make any sense and you call yourself
a former univ player.

RK-

 
 
 

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Post by cricketwal.. » Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> On Jan 25 in the rediff chat SRT told "one man can't win or lose a
> match". I wonder whether he will tell the same after Jan 31.

Indeed he will. I thought it an eerily precient comment, considering it was
make only a couple of days before the Madras test. For, just a couple of days
after making the comment, one man did all that could possibly be asked of one
man to do to make a win possible - scoring 136 on a minefield. 9 others,
however, scored 34 in total - thus providing proof, if any were needed, of the
statement.

Sadiq [ thats why, I suppose, its called a team game ] Yusuf

Quote:
> RK-

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Post by Ravi Krishn » Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>> On Jan 25 in the rediff chat SRT told "one man can't win or lose a
>> match". I wonder whether he will tell the same after Jan 31.
>Indeed he will. I thought it an eerily precient comment, considering it was
>make only a couple of days before the Madras test. For, just a couple of
>days after making the comment, one man did all that could possibly be asked
>of one man to do to make a win possible - scoring 136 on a minefield. 9
>others,however, scored 34 in total - thus providing proof, if any were
> needed, of the statement.

>Sadiq [ thats why, I suppose, its called a team game ] Yusuf

You seem to know more about SRT than he himself.

TAKEN FROM TIMES-OF-INDIA:-
=============================================================
However, Tendulkar still does not seem to have recovered from
India's shock defeat in the Chennai Test. According to sources in
the team the champion batsman cried for long in his room and he
was inconsolable. He is apparently holding himself responsible for
the team's defeat.
==============================================================
With warm regards.

RK-

 
 
 

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Post by Mad Hami » Sun, 14 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



>>>the sentiments are the same reg. tendulkar. what you must agree about is
>>>the
>>>fact that by putting his head down and batting in classical test match
>>>fashion, he transported himself to a different zone on his concentration.
>>>that is what ravi and a whole lot of others including me, have been harping
>>>on in our postings. instead of playing an odi inngs every time he goes >out to
>>>play, if only he'd been doing this earlier too ... but then this is indian
>>>cricket !

>>Looks like Indian cricket has been cursed. Just when SRT decided to play
>>like SMG, he gifted his wicket like kapil ( IMO Kapil must have the
>>dubious record of max. number of times throwing away his wkt).
>>On Jan 25 in the rediff chat SRT told "one man can't win or lose a
>>match". I wonder whether he will tell the same after Jan 31.

>>RK-
>Its funny but in the Eng v Aus Melb test Steve Waugh was abused
>by quite a few people on here for not "taking the long handle"
>to the bowling.

Um, no it was suggested that he should have been looking to make more of the
last 40 odd runs than the tail had to make.
I believe that Nicholson outscored him in the partnership.

It was also stated (by me) that it was a contrast to the first innings where he
hit out to get to his 100 and then went back into his shell. Suggesting that he
was willing to take risks to get his 100 but wasn't going to take a risk to try
and rattle England and force changes to win a test match.

Quote:
> He was accused of batting for his average.
>And SRT does what a few wanted Waugh to do and now
>SRT is copping some abuse.

>What I am trying to say is this............. no matter what they do
>some people will never be happy...

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