Batting average challenge (average of scores over 100, minimum 10 centuries).

Batting average challenge (average of scores over 100, minimum 10 centuries).

Post by Colin Lor » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 19:26:09


This started with a discussion of Mark Waugh, and why he can't seem to make
a decent score over about 130-140 in test cricket. He seems to get bored
once over 100 and throw his wicket away. Why? It would be interesting to
calculate all players averages of scores > 100 (min of 10 centuries). I'll
bet MEW at at the bottom or there abouts, 20 centuries with a highest of
153*.
 
 
 

Batting average challenge (average of scores over 100, minimum 10 centuries).

Post by John P Darc » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 21:23:38

Quote:

> This started with a discussion of Mark Waugh, and why he can't seem to make
> a decent score over about 130-140 in test cricket. He seems to get bored
> once over 100 and throw his wicket away. Why? It would be interesting to
> calculate all players averages of scores > 100 (min of 10 centuries). I'll
> bet MEW at at the bottom or there abouts, 20 centuries with a highest of
> 153*.

Whilst I am working on this one, here's a little trivia quiz based on
the information I am gathering in the process:

Which batsman with 15 or more Test centuries has the *highest* average
in innings of 100 or more?

--

Cheers

John

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 21:44:40



Quote:

> > This started with a discussion of Mark Waugh, and why he can't seem to
make
> > a decent score over about 130-140 in test cricket. He seems to get bored
> > once over 100 and throw his wicket away. Why? It would be interesting to
> > calculate all players averages of scores > 100 (min of 10 centuries).
I'll
> > bet MEW at at the bottom or there abouts, 20 centuries with a highest of
> > 153*.

> Whilst I am working on this one, here's a little trivia quiz based on
> the information I am gathering in the process:

> Which batsman with 15 or more Test centuries has the *highest* average
> in innings of 100 or more?

Following instinct, backed up by a check of their figures (but no-one
else's), I'd go for:

1. WR Hammond
2. Javed Miandad
3. DG Bradman

Very interesting.

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Matthew van de Werke » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 21:44:03



Quote:

> > This started with a discussion of Mark Waugh, and why he can't seem to
make
> > a decent score over about 130-140 in test cricket. He seems to get bored
> > once over 100 and throw his wicket away. Why? It would be interesting to
> > calculate all players averages of scores > 100 (min of 10 centuries).
I'll
> > bet MEW at at the bottom or there abouts, 20 centuries with a highest of
> > 153*.

> Whilst I am working on this one, here's a little trivia quiz based on
> the information I am gathering in the process:

> Which batsman with 15 or more Test centuries has the *highest* average
> in innings of 100 or more?

Surely it'd have to be Bradman.

Don't know the next best, but I'd reckon IVAR is up there, as is zaheer
abbas, and SRW is quite high due to large # of NO 100's.

Cheers,
MvdW

 
 
 

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Post by John P Darc » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 21:56:15

Quote:

> Following instinct, backed up by a check of their figures (but no-one
> else's), I'd go for:

> 1. WR Hammond
> 2. Javed Miandad
> 3. DG Bradman

Astute guesses from Andrew, but you have actually named the 2nd, 3rd and
4th placegetters.

--

Cheers

John
Standing ready to be corrected if there is a bolter down the list

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:01:01



Quote:

> > Following instinct, backed up by a check of their figures (but no-one
> > else's), I'd go for:

> > 1. WR Hammond
> > 2. Javed Miandad
> > 3. DG Bradman

> Astute guesses from Andrew, but you have actually named the 2nd, 3rd and
> 4th placegetters.

Tease.

With a helpful hint from Matthew, throw in SR Waugh at number one.

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Matthew van de Werke » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:06:24



Quote:

> > Following instinct, backed up by a check of their figures (but no-one
> > else's), I'd go for:

> > 1. WR Hammond
> > 2. Javed Miandad
> > 3. DG Bradman

> Astute guesses from Andrew, but you have actually named the 2nd, 3rd and
> 4th placegetters.

SRW:      26   27  12  3766 200  199  177* 251.06  27   0   0

DGB:      28   29   6  5393 334  304  299* 234.47  29   0   0

Hammond:  21   22   7  3685 336* 251  240  245.66  22   0   0

Miandad:  22   23   8  3584 280* 271  260  238.93  23   0   0

IVAR:     24   24   5  3536 291  232  208  186.10  24   0   0
(way down...)

SRT:      25   25   7  3593 217  201* 179  199.61  25   0   0

BCL:      15   15   1  2552 375  277  213  182.28  15   0   0

Waugh gets the guernsey mostly on the back of a whole stack of fairly large
NO tons.

Cheers,
MvdW

 
 
 

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Post by Mang » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:11:55



Quote:




> > > Following instinct, backed up by a check of their figures (but no-one
> > > else's), I'd go for:

> > > 1. WR Hammond
> > > 2. Javed Miandad
> > > 3. DG Bradman

> > Astute guesses from Andrew, but you have actually named the 2nd, 3rd and
> > 4th placegetters.

> SRW:      26   27  12  3766 200  199  177* 251.06  27   0   0

> DGB:      28   29   6  5393 334  304  299* 234.47  29   0   0

> Hammond:  21   22   7  3685 336* 251  240  245.66  22   0   0

> Miandad:  22   23   8  3584 280* 271  260  238.93  23   0   0

> IVAR:     24   24   5  3536 291  232  208  186.10  24   0   0
> (way down...)

> SRT:      25   25   7  3593 217  201* 179  199.61  25   0   0

> BCL:      15   15   1  2552 375  277  213  182.28  15   0   0

> Waugh gets the guernsey mostly on the back of a whole stack of fairly
large
> NO tons.

He is one batsman that seems to be harder to get out once he gets past the
100 mark.

Cheers

Mango

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> Cheers,
> MvdW

 
 
 

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Post by John P Darc » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:14:31


Quote:
> SRW:      26   27  12  3766 200  199  177* 251.06  27   0   0

> DGB:      28   29   6  5393 334  304  299* 234.47  29   0   0

> Hammond:  21   22   7  3685 336* 251  240  245.66  22   0   0

> Miandad:  22   23   8  3584 280* 271  260  238.93  23   0   0

> IVAR:     24   24   5  3536 291  232  208  186.10  24   0   0
> (way down...)

You think IVAR is way down?  Trivia #2 - which batsman with *20* or more
Test centuries carries the lowest average in century innings?  Neil
Harvey is second from the bottom on 148.75, but there is one guy even
lower and his name is not Waugh.

--

Cheers

John

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:15:33



Quote:




> > > Following instinct, backed up by a check of their figures (but no-one
> > > else's), I'd go for:

> > > 1. WR Hammond
> > > 2. Javed Miandad
> > > 3. DG Bradman

> > Astute guesses from Andrew, but you have actually named the 2nd, 3rd and
> > 4th placegetters.

> SRW:      26   27  12  3766 200  199  177* 251.06  27   0   0
> DGB:      28   29   6  5393 334  304  299* 234.47  29   0   0
> Hammond:  21   22   7  3685 336* 251  240  245.66  22   0   0
> Miandad:  22   23   8  3584 280* 271  260  238.93  23   0   0
> IVAR:     24   24   5  3536 291  232  208  186.10  24   0   0
> (way down...)
> SRT:      25   25   7  3593 217  201* 179  199.61  25   0   0
> BCL:      15   15   1  2552 375  277  213  182.28  15   0   0

> Waugh gets the guernsey mostly on the back of a whole stack of fairly
large
> NO tons.

Watch out for Atapattu coming up on the rails (eight centuries, average
276).

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:23:59


Quote:
> This started with a discussion of Mark Waugh, and why he can't seem to
make
> a decent score over about 130-140 in test cricket. He seems to get bored
> once over 100 and throw his wicket away. Why? It would be interesting to
> calculate all players averages of scores > 100 (min of 10 centuries). I'll
> bet MEW at at the bottom or there abouts, 20 centuries with a highest of
> 153*.

Apart from the obvious inability to get a really big score, MEW's record
isn't that bad.  Getting out between 100 and 110 is the best sign of a
batsman relaxing or throwing his wicket away.  MEW has passed 110 in 17 of
his 20 centuries, which certainly exhibits less post-hundred death-wish
tendencies than a certain NSW opening batsman/commentator I can think of.

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:28:44



Quote:

> > SRW:      26   27  12  3766 200  199  177* 251.06  27   0   0

> > DGB:      28   29   6  5393 334  304  299* 234.47  29   0   0

> > Hammond:  21   22   7  3685 336* 251  240  245.66  22   0   0

> > Miandad:  22   23   8  3584 280* 271  260  238.93  23   0   0

> > IVAR:     24   24   5  3536 291  232  208  186.10  24   0   0
> > (way down...)

> You think IVAR is way down?  Trivia #2 - which batsman with *20* or more
> Test centuries carries the lowest average in century innings?  Neil
> Harvey is second from the bottom on 148.75, but there is one guy even
> lower and his name is not Waugh.

MC Cowdrey.  Very few not outs,  nine scores between 100 and 110.

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by John P Darc » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:36:17

Quote:

> Apart from the obvious inability to get a really big score, MEW's record
> isn't that bad.  Getting out between 100 and 110 is the best sign of a
> batsman relaxing or throwing his wicket away.  MEW has passed 110 in 17 of
> his 20 centuries, which certainly exhibits less post-hundred death-wish
> tendencies than a certain NSW opening batsman/commentator I can think of.

Post-hundred??  The next edition of the Macquarie Dictionary contains
this new entry:

   slater  n  (SLAY-tuh)  An individual batting score in the
   range of 94 to 99 inclusive; ("to do a slater") to be
   dismissed when batting in a cricket match and within one
   scoring shot of a century.  slatered  v  dismissed in a
   cavalier fashion within one scoring shot of a century.

--

Cheers

John

 
 
 

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Post by John P Darc » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:48:47

Quote:

> This started with a discussion of Mark Waugh, and why he can't seem to make
> a decent score over about 130-140 in test cricket. He seems to get bored
> once over 100 and throw his wicket away. Why? It would be interesting to
> calculate all players averages of scores > 100 (min of 10 centuries). I'll
> bet MEW at at the bottom or there abouts, 20 centuries with a highest of
> 153*.

10 or more centuries is an enormous list, so I shortened it.

Centuries in Test Cricket (15 or more), and Each Player's Average
  from Innings of 100 runs or more only

A. Ordered by Centuries Scored

100s  Name           NO   Runs    Avg   300 200
34    SM Gavaskar     7   4802  177.85   0    4
29    DG Bradman      6   5393  234.47   2   10
27    AR Border      11   3580  223.75   0    2
27*   SR Waugh       12   3766  251.06   0    1
26    GS Sobers       9   3918  230.47   1    1    
25*   SR Tendulkar    7   3593  199.61   0    2
24    GS Chappell     5   3465  182.36   0    4
24    IVA Richards    5   3536  186.10   0    3
23    Javed Miandad   8   3584  238.93   0    6
22    WR Hammond      7   3685  245.66   1    6
22    M Azharuddin    4   2925  162.50   0    0
22    MC Cowdrey      2   2778  138.90   0    0
22    G Boycott       7   2830  188.66   0    1
21    RN Harvey       1   2975  148.75   0    2
21    DC Boon         5   2700  168.75   0    1
20    KF Barrington   5   2767  184.46   0    1
20    GA Gooch        1   3041  160.05   1    1
20*   ME Waugh        4   2412  150.75   0    0
19*   PA de Silva     4   2588  172.53   0    1
19    L Hutton        4   2966  197.73   1    3
19    MA Taylor       5   2702  193.00   1    1
19    CG Greenidge    3   2742  171.37   0    4
19    CH Lloyd        3   2534  158.37   0    1
18    DI Gower        5   2517  193.61   0    2
18    DL Haynes       3   2299  153.26   0    0
17    DCS Compton     2   2425  161.66   0    2
17    MD Crowe        1   2420  151.25   0    1
17    DB Vengsarkar   6   2204  200.36   0    0
16*   MA Atherton     1   2034  135.60   0    0
16    H Sutcliffe     2   2089  149.21   0    0
16    RB Richardson   2   2168  154.85   0    0
15*   BC Lara         1   2552  182.28   1    2
15    JB Hobbs        1   2149  153.50   0    1
15    KD Walters      2   1942  149.38   0    2
15    RB Kanhai       1   2169  154.92   0    2
15    CL Walcott      1   2000  142.85   0    1
15    Salim Malik     5   1891  189.10   0    1

B. Ordered by Average in Century Innings

100s  Name           NO   Runs    Avg   300 200
27*   SR Waugh       12   3766  251.06   0    1
22    WR Hammond      7   3685  245.66   1    6
23    Javed Miandad   8   3584  238.93   0    6
29    DG Bradman      6   5393  234.47   2   10
26    GS Sobers       9   3918  230.47   1    1    
27    AR Border      11   3580  223.75   0    2
17    DB Vengsarkar   6   2204  200.36   0    0
25*   SR Tendulkar    7   3593  199.61   0    2
19    L Hutton        4   2966  197.73   1    3
18    DI Gower        5   2517  193.61   0    2
19    MA Taylor       5   2702  193.00   1    1
15    Salim Malik     5   1891  189.10   0    1
22    G Boycott       7   2830  188.66   0    1
24    IVA Richards    5   3536  186.10   0    3
20    KF Barrington   5   2767  184.46   0    1
24    GS Chappell     5   3465  182.36   0    4
15*   BC Lara         1   2552  182.28   1    2
34    SM Gavaskar     7   4802  177.85   0    4
19*   PA de Silva     4   2588  172.53   0    1
19    CG Greenidge    3   2742  171.37   0    4
21    DC Boon         5   2700  168.75   0    1
22    M Azharuddin    4   2925  162.50   0    0
17    DCS Compton     2   2425  161.66   0    2
20    GA Gooch        1   3041  160.05   1    1
19    CH Lloyd        3   2534  158.37   0    1
15    RB Kanhai       1   2169  154.92   0    2
16    RB Richardson   2   2168  154.85   0    0
15    JB Hobbs        1   2149  153.50   0    1
18    DL Haynes       3   2299  153.26   0    0
17    MD Crowe        1   2420  151.25   0    1
20*   ME Waugh        4   2412  150.75   0    0
15    KD Walters      2   1942  149.38   0    2
16    H Sutcliffe     2   2089  149.21   0    0
21    RN Harvey       1   2975  148.75   0    2
15    CL Walcott      1   2000  142.85   0    1
22    MC Cowdrey      2   2778  138.90   0    0
16*   MA Atherton     1   2034  135.60   0    0