'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Aslam Siddiq » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:00:05


Here is a list of 'good' (definition - 100 Test wickets at 26.00 or
less) bowler who have averaged over 60 runs per wicket in a Test
series (qualification - bowled in at least two Tests in the series).

               Career    Series
                 Ave      Ave   M
CEL Ambrose     20.99   139.00  2  WI  v Pak in Pak 1997-98
AV Bedser       24.90    69.00  2  Eng v NZ  in NZ  1950-51
AK Davidson     20.53    73.33  3  Aus v Eng in Aus 1954-55
Fazal Mahmood   24.71    66.40  2  Pak v Eng in Eng 1962
CV Grimmett     24.22    65.20  3  Aus v Eng in Aus 1932-33
MA Holding      23.69    61.40  5  WI  v Aus in Aus 1975-76
WA Johnston     23.91    94.50  4  Aus v WI  in WI  1954-55
DK Lillee       23.92   101.00  3  Aus v Pak in Pak 1979-80
GAR Lock        25.58    75.20  4  Eng v Aus in Aus 1958-59
                         83.33  3  Eng v Aus in Eng 1961
MD Marshall     20.95    88.33  3  WI  v Ind in Ind 1978-79
GD McGrath      21.61    65.40  3  Aus v NZ  in Aus 2001-02
M Muralitharan  22.77   116.00  2  SL  v Aus in Aus 1995-96
                        103.67  2  SL  v Ind in Ind 1997-98
MA Noble        25.00    68.17  5  Aus v Eng in Eng 1905
BA Reid         24.64   222.00  2  Aus v Ind in Ind 1986-87
AME Roberts     25.61    65.33  2  WI  v NZ  in NZ  1979-80
Shoaib Akhtar   24.47    67.67  3  Pak v Aus in Aus 1999-00
JB Statham      24.85    81.00  2  Eng v WI  in Eng 1963
DL Underwood    25.84   172.00  2  Eng v WI  in Eng 1966
                         71.67  2  Eng v Pak in Pak 1972-73
                         62.80  4  Eng v WI  in WI  1973-74
CA Walsh        24.45    62.50  4  WI  v Ind in WI  1996-97
                         75.33  2  WI  v NZ  in NZ  1999-00
Waqar Younis    23.56    76.50  2  Pak v Ind in Ind 1998-99
SK Warne        25.47   228.00  2  Aus v Ind in Aus 1991-92
                        134.00  3  Aus v WI  in WI  1998-99
                         71.67  3  Aus v NZ  in Aus 2001-02
Wasim Akram     23.62    61.50  2  Pak v Eng in Pak 2000-01
RGD Willis      25.20    74.67  3  Eng v Aus in Aus 1979-80
                         61.17  3  Eng v WI  in Eng 1984

aslam
GO CUBS!!!

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by RodP » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:11:27



Quote:
> SK Warne        25.47   228.00  2  Aus v Ind in Aus 1991-92

Wasn't this the series where Shastri smashed him all around the park
then came back to tell him he had a special gift as a bowler and one
day he'll be a great?

Cheers,
Rod.

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Mike Holman » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:16:22


tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

Quote:
>Here is a list of 'good' (definition - 100 Test wickets at 26.00 or
>less) bowler who have averaged over 60 runs per wicket in a Test
>series (qualification - bowled in at least two Tests in the series).

I'm somewhat surprised to find that unless Harmison has a terrible
series against WI, he will pass 100 Test wickets without joining that
list.

Cheers,

Mike

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Mr Cleve » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:31:04

The list is for "good" bowlers.


Quote:

> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

> >Here is a list of 'good' (definition - 100 Test wickets at 26.00 or
> >less) bowler who have averaged over 60 runs per wicket in a Test
> >series (qualification - bowled in at least two Tests in the series).

> I'm somewhat surprised to find that unless Harmison has a terrible
> series against WI, he will pass 100 Test wickets without joining that
> list.

> Cheers,

> Mike

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Shishir S. Patha » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:28:58


Quote:

> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

> >Here is a list of 'good' (definition - 100 Test wickets at 26.00 or
> >less) bowler who have averaged over 60 runs per wicket in a Test
> >series (qualification - bowled in at least two Tests in the series).

> I'm somewhat surprised to find that unless Harmison has a terrible
> series against WI, he will pass 100 Test wickets without joining that
> list.

-rk will get a heart attack when he learns that Kapil Dev isn't there in the
list, but Marshall, Holding, AMbrose, Akram, McGrath are.

Cheers, Shishir

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Colin Kynoc » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 14:27:36

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:11:27 GMT, RodP

with this:

Quote:


>> SK Warne        25.47   228.00  2  Aus v Ind in Aus 1991-92

>Wasn't this the series where Shastri smashed him all around the park
>then came back to tell him he had a special gift as a bowler and one
>day he'll be a great?

It was his debut series.  So yep

Colin Kynoch

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by RodP » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:39:17



Quote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:11:27 GMT, RodP

> with this:



> >> SK Warne        25.47   228.00  2  Aus v Ind in Aus 1991-92

> >Wasn't this the series where Shastri smashed him all around the park
> >then came back to tell him he had a special gift as a bowler and one
> >day he'll be a great?

> It was his debut series.  So yep

Interesting that he was able to predict the future of Warne even
though he wasn't troubled by him. I'm also wondering whether the
*** he got by India in his first series has contributed in any
way to his lack of success against India throughout his career.

Cheers,
Rod.

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by alve » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:04:37

Quote:

>>It was his debut series.  So yep

> Interesting that he was able to predict the future of Warne even
> though he wasn't troubled by him. I'm also wondering whether the
>*** he got by India in his first series has contributed in any
> way to his lack of success against India throughout his career.

Mmmmm. Interesting thought, but I don't think so. He may however have
accumulated some doubt baggage over his entire career against them
though.

alvey,
in brisbane, voting for Ind v Aus 2004 as The Most Anticipated Series
since Eng v Aus 1975. (That's in the Australian Idle version)

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by RodP » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:17:44



Quote:
> Mmmmm. Interesting thought, but I don't think so. He may however have
> accumulated some doubt baggage over his entire career against them
> though.

Whilst India have played him with comparitive ease over the years
and on more than one occassion played him with utter contempt, you'd
think his lack of success would certainly affect him mentally.

Would have been interesting to see his attitude towards India if he
innitially feasted on England first.

Agreed about the series coming up though, should be a corker.

Cheers,
Rod.

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Aditya Basru » Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:39:39

Quote:




>> tapped the keyboard and brought forth:

>>> Here is a list of 'good' (definition - 100 Test wickets at 26.00 or
>>> less) bowler who have averaged over 60 runs per wicket in a Test
>>> series (qualification - bowled in at least two Tests in the series).

>> I'm somewhat surprised to find that unless Harmison has a terrible
>> series against WI, he will pass 100 Test wickets without joining that
>> list.

> -rk will get a heart attack when he learns that Kapil Dev isn't there
> in the list, but Marshall, Holding, AMbrose, Akram, McGrath are.

Kapil doesn't fit Aslam's description of a "good bowler" (100 wickets at 26
or less). In fact, I think no Indian does. RK need not have a heart attack at
all; he's known longer than any of us that India has no good bowlers.

Aditya

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Lenin Mara » Fri, 23 Jul 2004 03:44:12


Quote:
> Here is a list of 'good' (definition - 100 Test wickets at 26.00 or
> less) bowler who have averaged over 60 runs per wicket in a Test
> series (qualification - bowled in at least two Tests in the series).

So then could you please provide a list of the 'really good'
bowlers(same definition as above) who never avged less than 60
in a Test series(same qualification). Also what was their worst avg.
in a Test series.

TIA.

Peace,
Lenin

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Aditya Basru » Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:21:49

Quote:



>> Here is a list of 'good' (definition - 100 Test wickets at 26.00 or
>> less) bowler who have averaged over 60 runs per wicket in a Test
>> series (qualification - bowled in at least two Tests in the series).
> So then could you please provide a list of the 'really good'
> bowlers(same definition as above) who never avged less than 60

Do you mean less than or more than 60? It sounds as though if a bowler never
averaged *less* than 60, he wouldn't be very good.

Quote:
> in a Test series(same qualification). Also what was their worst avg.
> in a Test series.

To start this off, you have ...

                               Ave        Ser                M
SF Barnes             16.43        26.08            5                Aus v
Eng (in Aust) 1907/08

Aditya

 
 
 

'Good' bowlers with poor series performances

Post by Lenin Mara » Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:39:12


Quote:



> >> Here is a list of 'good' (definition - 100 Test wickets at 26.00 or
> >> less) bowler who have averaged over 60 runs per wicket in a Test
> >> series (qualification - bowled in at least two Tests in the series).
> > So then could you please provide a list of the 'really good'
> > bowlers(same definition as above) who never avged less than 60

> Do you mean less than or more than 60? It sounds as though if a bowler
never
> averaged *less* than 60, he wouldn't be very good.

Yep. You are correct.
I did mean more than 60.

Quote:
> > in a Test series(same qualification). Also what was their worst avg.
> > in a Test series.

> To start this off, you have ...

>                                Ave        Ser                M
> SF Barnes             16.43        26.08            5                Aus v
> Eng (in Aust) 1907/08

Imran, Pollocks, Donald,Hadlee,Laker, Trueman(lots of English type fellows),
Lindwall,
Miller, Davidson(quite a few Aussies), Garner, Croft, Bishop.

Peace,
Lenin