South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Peter Lar » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00


I think the SA Cricket Board should have taken a hint from Aussies on how to
handle their players accepting money for giving out useful (and public)
information.

RULE 1:  Pull a poker face and deny the whole thing as garbage, rubbish etc
etc
RULE 2:  Sweep the whole thing under carpet and pretend nothing has happened
RULE 3:  Shoot the messenger. Try to discredit the person who breaks the
news.
RULE 4:  Accuse every other country including japan ( who cares if they
don't play cricket) of cheating and matchfixing to divert attention.

Here is what you do if the cat is out of the bag and the player's name is
known to the media.

RULE 1: Confirm with the player if he has taken money. Most of them will
accept if there is enough evidence to incriminate them anyway.
RULE 2: Try to delay as much as possible in taking any action against the
player. Wait for the whole thing to die down.
RULE 3: If it does not go away, prepare for the media brief.  Reduce the
actual amount so it looks like a average person's weekly wage and make sure
that you use words like weather report and pitch information couple of times
to make it all look very harmless.
RULE 4: inform the IOC and request them to keep the whole thing quite. They
would oblige if you ask them nicely.
RULE 5: Now hire a media manager or spin doctors to handle the PR. Try to
generate as much sympathy as possible by saying that the player was under
extreme pressure, it is one time slip only, it was stupid, naive etc etc
(you get the picture)
RULE 6: fine the player soem tocken amount two years after the incident to
show that you have done something about it.

if you follow everything by the book, you would have no problems in getting
the player back in the team playing in no time as if nothing has happened.
After all people have below average intelligence and very short memories.

 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Dan t » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

One thing You forgot to mention.....

How do you fix someone who has blatently lied to his cricket board and to
his countrys people who supported him 110% and now have egg on their face?


Quote:
> I think the SA Cricket Board should have taken a hint from Aussies on how
to
> handle their players accepting money for giving out useful (and public)
> information.

> RULE 1:  Pull a poker face and deny the whole thing as garbage, rubbish
etc
> etc
> RULE 2:  Sweep the whole thing under carpet and pretend nothing has
happened
> RULE 3:  Shoot the messenger. Try to discredit the person who breaks the
> news.
> RULE 4:  Accuse every other country including japan ( who cares if they
> don't play cricket) of cheating and matchfixing to divert attention.

> Here is what you do if the cat is out of the bag and the player's name is
> known to the media.

> RULE 1: Confirm with the player if he has taken money. Most of them will
> accept if there is enough evidence to incriminate them anyway.
> RULE 2: Try to delay as much as possible in taking any action against the
> player. Wait for the whole thing to die down.
> RULE 3: If it does not go away, prepare for the media brief.  Reduce the
> actual amount so it looks like a average person's weekly wage and make
sure
> that you use words like weather report and pitch information couple of
times
> to make it all look very harmless.
> RULE 4: inform the IOC and request them to keep the whole thing quite.
They
> would oblige if you ask them nicely.
> RULE 5: Now hire a media manager or spin doctors to handle the PR. Try to
> generate as much sympathy as possible by saying that the player was under
> extreme pressure, it is one time slip only, it was stupid, naive etc etc
> (you get the picture)
> RULE 6: fine the player soem tocken amount two years after the incident to
> show that you have done something about it.

> if you follow everything by the book, you would have no problems in
getting
> the player back in the team playing in no time as if nothing has happened.
> After all people have below average intelligence and very short memories.


 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by David Blak » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 04:07:04 GMT, in article


Quote:
>I think the SA Cricket Board should have taken a hint from Aussies on how to
>handle their players accepting money for giving out useful (and public)
>information.

So team selection and tactical information is now public information
is it?

snipped a load of old cobblers

Quote:
>if you follow everything by the book, you would have no problems in getting
>the player back in the team playing in no time as if nothing has happened.
>After all people have below average intelligence and very short memories.

Yes, you included if you believe that what Cronje has done is EXACTLY
the same as what Warne & Waugh did.

--
cheers,

Dave

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South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Ashley Mano » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I don't know what *** you're on, but the accusations levelled against
Cronje are on a different playing field from those that M.Waugh and S.Warne
confessed to.

Cronje is accused of deliberately and maliciously influencing the way the
game was played.
Waugh and Warne, however, simply offered information to bookmakers. This
does not in any way affect what  happens on the park, and does not undermine
the legitimacy of how the game is played. If a bookmaker is stupid enough to
pay large sums of money for public knowledge, then that's his business. As
was suggested, it was probably a ploy to introduce them to the corruption
game, and eventually start offering moeny to play badly.
They admitted to their actions, and there was no evidence to suggest that
they ever accepted money in return for putting in a sub-standard
performance. Really, I think the punishment they received was adequate.
But whether you think the penalty was appropriate or not, you cannot
possibly compare their actions with what Cronje is accused of.

Now you're probably going to go on about how that's not all that Warne and
Waugh did. They match-fixed. They deliberately played poorly. They this.
They that. Well if any of that's true then I'd love to see them brought to
justice, and all this bullshit cleaned up. That way, at least ***ers like
you could spout off at those who WERE actually guilty.

And by the way, the IOC has nothing to do with cricket you moron. What was
that you were saying about people with below-average intelligence?


Quote:
> I think the SA Cricket Board should have taken a hint from Aussies on how
to
> handle their players accepting money for giving out useful (and public)
> information.

> RULE 1:  Pull a poker face and deny the whole thing as garbage, rubbish
etc
> etc
> RULE 2:  Sweep the whole thing under carpet and pretend nothing has
happened
> RULE 3:  Shoot the messenger. Try to discredit the person who breaks the
> news.
> RULE 4:  Accuse every other country including japan ( who cares if they
> don't play cricket) of cheating and matchfixing to divert attention.

> Here is what you do if the cat is out of the bag and the player's name is
> known to the media.

> RULE 1: Confirm with the player if he has taken money. Most of them will
> accept if there is enough evidence to incriminate them anyway.
> RULE 2: Try to delay as much as possible in taking any action against the
> player. Wait for the whole thing to die down.
> RULE 3: If it does not go away, prepare for the media brief.  Reduce the
> actual amount so it looks like a average person's weekly wage and make
sure
> that you use words like weather report and pitch information couple of
times
> to make it all look very harmless.
> RULE 4: inform the IOC and request them to keep the whole thing quite.
They
> would oblige if you ask them nicely.
> RULE 5: Now hire a media manager or spin doctors to handle the PR. Try to
> generate as much sympathy as possible by saying that the player was under
> extreme pressure, it is one time slip only, it was stupid, naive etc etc
> (you get the picture)
> RULE 6: fine the player soem tocken amount two years after the incident to
> show that you have done something about it.

> if you follow everything by the book, you would have no problems in
getting
> the player back in the team playing in no time as if nothing has happened.
> After all people have below average intelligence and very short memories.

 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Moby Dic » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Meanwhile, Australians could do to learn from posters who constantly raise
issues that have already been soundly refuted in the past.

1) raise issue..
2) continue to argue until issue has been rebutted so far beyond a doubt
you even look silly by continuing to mention it.
3) wait
4) raise issue as if no one had ever put an opposing point of view foward
ever... remember to include things that never happened originally and if
at all possible, combine several issues into one...

I await, eagerly, the accusations in a years time of W&W match-fixing,
bribing umpires and abusing small children... hell, it was they who bowled
underarm, wasn't it?

Quote:

> I think the SA Cricket Board should have taken a hint from Aussies on how to
> handle their players accepting money for giving out useful (and public)
> information.

> RULE 1:  Pull a poker face and deny the whole thing as garbage, rubbish etc
> etc
> RULE 2:  Sweep the whole thing under carpet and pretend nothing has happened
> RULE 3:  Shoot the messenger. Try to discredit the person who breaks the
> news.
> RULE 4:  Accuse every other country including japan ( who cares if they
> don't play cricket) of cheating and matchfixing to divert attention.

> Here is what you do if the cat is out of the bag and the player's name is
> known to the media.

> RULE 1: Confirm with the player if he has taken money. Most of them will
> accept if there is enough evidence to incriminate them anyway.
> RULE 2: Try to delay as much as possible in taking any action against the
> player. Wait for the whole thing to die down.
> RULE 3: If it does not go away, prepare for the media brief.  Reduce the
> actual amount so it looks like a average person's weekly wage and make sure
> that you use words like weather report and pitch information couple of times
> to make it all look very harmless.
> RULE 4: inform the IOC and request them to keep the whole thing quite. They
> would oblige if you ask them nicely.
> RULE 5: Now hire a media manager or spin doctors to handle the PR. Try to
> generate as much sympathy as possible by saying that the player was under
> extreme pressure, it is one time slip only, it was stupid, naive etc etc
> (you get the picture)
> RULE 6: fine the player soem tocken amount two years after the incident to
> show that you have done something about it.

> if you follow everything by the book, you would have no problems in getting
> the player back in the team playing in no time as if nothing has happened.
> After all people have below average intelligence and very short memories.

Moby***.
The revolution is dead.  Long live the revolution.
 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by jeff. » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
>After all people have below average intelligence

actually i tihnk you'll find that on average people have average
intelligence.

jeff...

You can have America
   And all of Europe too
      I'll be in Australia
         A billion stars in my room
                                 - Neil Murray

 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Colin Kynoc » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:



> >After all people have below average intelligence

> actually i tihnk you'll find that on average people have average
> intelligence.

Surely not!!!  :-)

Colin Kynoch

Quote:

> jeff...

> You can have America
>    And all of Europe too
>       I'll be in Australia
>          A billion stars in my room
>                                  - Neil Murray

 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Kurt » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> I don't know what *** you're on, but the accusations levelled against
> Cronje are on a different playing field from those that M.Waugh and S.Warne
> confessed to.

Yes, but the actions to which Waugh & Warne confessed are
almost exactly the same as those to which Cronje confessed.
Cronje was shown to have lied, can we trust that W&W have
told the full truth?

Kurt

 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Duckfee » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


> > I don't know what *** you're on, but the accusations levelled against
> > Cronje are on a different playing field from those that M.Waugh and
S.Warne
> > confessed to.

> Yes, but the actions to which Waugh & Warne confessed are
> almost exactly the same as those to which Cronje confessed.
> Cronje was shown to have lied, can we trust that W&W have
> told the full truth?

> Kurt

Cronje lied? this is news to me... do you have any known facts that
contradict a QUOTE from hansie?

Duckfeet

 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Ian Galbrai » Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:00:00

[snip]

:Cronje lied? this is news to me... do you have any known facts that
:contradict a QUOTE from hansie?

Ali Bacher seems to be under the impression that he lied.

--
Ian Galbraith

"To say that these men paid their shillings to watch twenty-two hirelings
kick a ball is merely to say that a violin is wood and catgut, that
Hamlet is so much paper and ink. For a shilling the Bruddersford United
AFC offered you conflict and art." - J.B. Priestley

 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by David Symon » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I'll only make one comment Japan does play cricket, a team from Tokyo
Uni played a series of matches against district teams in Australia last
year.
bfn
David
Quote:

> I think the SA Cricket Board should have taken a hint from Aussies on how to
> handle their players accepting money for giving out useful (and public)
> information.

> RULE 1:  Pull a poker face and deny the whole thing as garbage, rubbish etc
> etc
> RULE 2:  Sweep the whole thing under carpet and pretend nothing has happened
> RULE 3:  Shoot the messenger. Try to discredit the person who breaks the
> news.
> RULE 4:  Accuse every other country including japan ( who cares if they
> don't play cricket) of cheating and matchfixing to divert attention.

> Here is what you do if the cat is out of the bag and the player's name is
> known to the media.

> RULE 1: Confirm with the player if he has taken money. Most of them will
> accept if there is enough evidence to incriminate them anyway.
> RULE 2: Try to delay as much as possible in taking any action against the
> player. Wait for the whole thing to die down.
> RULE 3: If it does not go away, prepare for the media brief.  Reduce the
> actual amount so it looks like a average person's weekly wage and make sure
> that you use words like weather report and pitch information couple of times
> to make it all look very harmless.
> RULE 4: inform the IOC and request them to keep the whole thing quite. They
> would oblige if you ask them nicely.
> RULE 5: Now hire a media manager or spin doctors to handle the PR. Try to
> generate as much sympathy as possible by saying that the player was under
> extreme pressure, it is one time slip only, it was stupid, naive etc etc
> (you get the picture)
> RULE 6: fine the player soem tocken amount two years after the incident to
> show that you have done something about it.

> if you follow everything by the book, you would have no problems in getting
> the player back in the team playing in no time as if nothing has happened.
> After all people have below average intelligence and very short memories.

 
 
 

South African Cricket Board should learn from Aussies on handling cheats

Post by Sid » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> I'll only make one comment Japan does play cricket, a team from Tokyo
> Uni played a series of matches against district teams in Australia last
> year.
> bfn
> David

Was this in November-December?

Did a team from Singapore come as well? :)

Sid