Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Crickete » Sat, 20 Apr 2002 21:43:20


Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

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Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by David W Noo » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:36:07


Quote:
> Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
> 1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
> non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

Since Steve and Mark look like retiring soon, we have two vacancies in the
longer term. [I'm assuming the newer guys in the LOI team are not
"cemented" yet.]

Muralitharan.(except when Big Darrell is umpiring)
Tendulkar

These guys would make it for Tests, and SRT would definitely make the LOI
team too.

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Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Moby » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 01:05:25

Quote:

> Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
> 1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
> non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

Rather a lot.

Although this presents an interesting problem WRT the openers.  For how
long do Hayden and Langer have to keep this up?

Moby

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Paul » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:19:05

Heh,

This is my Australian Test XI with a few non-Aussies in the side to complement
and improve the structure and balance of the side:

Matthew Hayden
Justin Langer
Ricky Ponting (Captain)
Darren Lehmann
Damien Martyn
Chris Cairns
Adam Gilchrist (Vice Captain)
Shane Warne
Brett Lee
Dizzy
Glen McGrath

One Day XI

Adam Gilchrist (VCaptain)
Sachin Tendulkar
Ricky Ponting (Captain)
Darren Lehmann
Damien Martyn
Chris Cairns
Shane Warne
Brett Lee
Dizzy
Murrali
Glen McGrath

Paul

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Crickete » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:10:44

No Sachin in the Test XI?
 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Matthew van de Werke » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:33:07

Quote:

> Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
> 1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
> non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

Being a biased Aussie, I can't see too many players from elsewhere making
the current Australian team.

A team similar to the following would probably be as close to ideal at the
moment (tests, obviously):

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Tendulkar
SRW (c)
Martyn
Gilchrist
Pollock
Gillespie
Muralitharan
McGrath

I've included Pollock because he can bat a bit, and would no doubt bowl
very well with the support at the other end he's been lacking recently.

Kallis is unlucky to not make this team, but personally I'd rather Ponting
at 3. Martyn and SRW are the most debatable, IMO.

Cheers,
MvdW

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by George.co » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:17:47

Chris Cairns (when fit) and arguably, given the form he is in, Nathan Astle

rob


Quote:
> Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
> 1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
> non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

> --

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Mike Holman » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:20:00


Quote:
>A team similar to the following would probably be as close to ideal at the
>moment (tests, obviously):

>Hayden
>Langer
>Ponting
>Tendulkar
>SRW (c)
>Martyn
>Gilchrist
>Pollock
>Gillespie
>Muralitharan
>McGrath

>I've included Pollock because he can bat a bit, and would no doubt bowl
>very well with the support at the other end he's been lacking recently.

>Kallis is unlucky to not make this team, but personally I'd rather Ponting
>at 3. Martyn and SRW are the most debatable, IMO.

And you think that a spinner who's injured is a better bet than
Warney. Interesting.

Cheers,

Mike

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Matthew van de Werke » Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:36:35

Quote:


>>A team similar to the following would probably be as close to ideal at the
>>moment (tests, obviously):

>>Hayden
>>Langer
>>Ponting
>>Tendulkar
>>SRW (c)
>>Martyn
>>Gilchrist
>>Pollock
>>Gillespie
>>Muralitharan
>>McGrath

>>I've included Pollock because he can bat a bit, and would no doubt bowl
>>very well with the support at the other end he's been lacking recently.

>>Kallis is unlucky to not make this team, but personally I'd rather Ponting
>>at 3. Martyn and SRW are the most debatable, IMO.

> And you think that a spinner who's injured is a better bet than
> Warney. Interesting.

Fair comment. I'd missed Larry's 400 posts on Murali being injured, so
forgot about it. OK, Warne then.

Cheers,
MvdW

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Amol Cricketwall » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 02:24:25


Quote:

> > Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
> > 1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
> > non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

> Being a biased Aussie, I can't see too many players from elsewhere making
> the current Australian team.

Not being a biased Aussie, I cant see too many players from elsewhere
either - but I see more than you do :-)

Quote:
> A team similar to the following would probably be as close to ideal at the
> moment (tests, obviously):

> Hayden
> Langer
> Ponting
> Tendulkar
> SRW (c)
> Martyn
> Gilchrist
> Pollock
> Gillespie
> Muralitharan
> McGrath

> I've included Pollock because he can bat a bit, and would no doubt bowl
> very well with the support at the other end he's been lacking recently.

True. Or else you could add Cairns - open with Dizzy and Mcgrath, and have
Cairns first-change? You'd lose out on the bowling of Pollock, but you'd
probably gain a bit in the batting. I dont know - not an easy call.

The way Dizzy has been bowling of late, one could make the case that he
could be replaced outright - maybe by Pollock, and then Cairns as additional
allrounder? Or else by...hmm...I dont know. Caddick's been in good form
lately. Or Streak? Iam reaching, though - Gillespie is as good a choice
as any there, really.

Quote:
> Kallis is unlucky to not make this team, but personally I'd rather Ponting
> at 3. Martyn and SRW are the most debatable, IMO.

OTOH, I think Ponting/SRW/Martyn have a few challengers. Kallis is one,
of course - but how about Lara? Worth a spot for one of them, surely?

Sadiq [ still not too many others, really ] Yusuf

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Quote:
> Cheers,
> MvdW

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by samarth harish sha » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 02:41:07


Quote:


> > > Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
> > > 1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
> > > non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

> > Being a biased Aussie, I can't see too many players from elsewhere making
> > the current Australian team.

> Not being a biased Aussie, I cant see too many players from elsewhere
> either - but I see more than you do :-)

> > A team similar to the following would probably be as close to ideal at the
> > moment (tests, obviously):

> > Hayden
> > Langer
> > Ponting
> > Tendulkar
> > SRW (c)
> > Martyn
> > Gilchrist
> > Pollock
> > Gillespie
> > Muralitharan
> > McGrath

> > I've included Pollock because he can bat a bit, and would no doubt bowl
> > very well with the support at the other end he's been lacking recently.

> True. Or else you could add Cairns - open with Dizzy and Mcgrath, and have
> Cairns first-change? You'd lose out on the bowling of Pollock, but you'd
> probably gain a bit in the batting. I dont know - not an easy call.

> The way Dizzy has been bowling of late, one could make the case that he
> could be replaced outright - maybe by Pollock, and then Cairns as additional
> allrounder? Or else by...hmm...I dont know. Caddick's been in good form
> lately. Or Streak? Iam reaching, though - Gillespie is as good a choice

Yes, you are. Streak has averaged over 35 through the last 1 year. And 38
over the last 6 months. Caddick's just had an awesome series in NZ. Just
like Srinath had in RSA late last year. So, his figures over the last 6
months are far better than Srinath's.

But, over a longer (yet recent) time interval such as the last 1 year
(from 21-4-2001 onwards) or the last 2 years (from 21-4-2000 onwards),
Srinath has been better than Caddick. Only slightly better, but better
nevertheless.

-Samarth.

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Quote:
> as any there, really.

> > Kallis is unlucky to not make this team, but personally I'd rather Ponting
> > at 3. Martyn and SRW are the most debatable, IMO.

> OTOH, I think Ponting/SRW/Martyn have a few challengers. Kallis is one,
> of course - but how about Lara? Worth a spot for one of them, surely?

> Sadiq [ still not too many others, really ] Yusuf

> > Cheers,
> > MvdW

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by CricketConnoisse » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 06:42:32

Quote:

> Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
> 1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
> non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

> --

Barring Brian Lara and Sachin Tendulkar the Aussies might not select
anyone else. This is because they didn't pick Murray Goodwin who
averaged 40 plus in tests in one of their state teams.

However, the other players who should be picked (even though the
Aussies might not pick them) are Kallis, Pollock, Muralitharan.

The above are for tests.

For one dayers, you once again get Brian Lara and Sachin Tendulkar.
The others could be Lance Klusener, Muralitharan, Pollock, and maybe
even Kallis. I may even be tempted to include Sehwag.

Regards,

CC

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by sude » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:58:49


Quote:

> > Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
> > 1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
> > non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

> Being a biased Aussie, I can't see too many players from elsewhere making
> the current Australian team.

> A team similar to the following would probably be as close to ideal at the
> moment (tests, obviously):

> Hayden
> Langer
> Ponting
> Tendulkar
> SRW (c)
> Martyn
> Gilchrist
> Pollock
> Gillespie
> Muralitharan
> McGrath

> I've included Pollock because he can bat a bit, and would no doubt bowl
> very well with the support at the other end he's been lacking recently.

> Kallis is unlucky to not make this team, but personally I'd rather Ponting
> at 3. Martyn and SRW are the most debatable, IMO.

> Cheers,
> MvdW

aussies middle order is weak (test that is)...most teams could field a
batsmen that could make this middle order. As for opening batsmen and
the big 3 bowlers...they are pretty irresplaceable. Maybe murali or
someone could take Lees place.
 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Mad Hami » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:57:14



Quote:
>Which non-Aussie current cricket players would make it to an Aussie XI for
>1) Tests and 2) ODIs if they were to move to Australia?  Disregard
>non-cricketing factors for the purpose of this discussion.

it depends on a few things.

Tendulkar obviously would, so would Lara. I'd consider a few other
middle order batsmen around (Thorpe, Jayawardene & Kallis for a start)
to be chances to displace Mark Waugh.

Andy Flower might have pipped Gilchrist earlier but wouldn't displace
him now.

I'd have Pollock in the team ahead of Lee and, under most conditions,
I'd now have Muralidharan in the team ahead of Warne.

I'd consider Cairns, Caddick or Gough for pace spots as well.

If I was picking a team based on that then it'd probably be something
like

Hayden
Langer
Martyn
Lara
Tendulkar
S.Waugh
Gilchrist
Pollock
Gillespie
McGrath
Muralidharan

I wouldn't have quite the same lineup for a World team because here
I'm assuming that a replacement player has to be a fair  better than
the Australian that they're replacing as the Aussies are established.
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

Mad Hamish
Hamish Laws

 
 
 

Which non-Aussies would make it to an Aussie XI?

Post by Crickete » Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:18:21

Quote:
> Andy Flower might have pipped Gilchrist earlier but wouldn't displace
> him now.

He can still come in as a specialist batsman in the middle order in place of
Mark Waugh, for instance.