India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by Geico Cavema » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:03:18


If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by ampar.. » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:36:02



Quote:
> If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
> victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
> even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

> Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

> On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
> batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

and what if India beat Sri Lanka by a good margin ? where does that
put India's run rate ?

 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by tendulkar.co » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:37:54

Quote:

> If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
> victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
> even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

> Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

> On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
> batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

What kind of stupid logic is this?

Consider the following scenarios

i) Ind bt SLK; SLK bt Ban; Ban bt Ber (4, 4, 4, 0)
Three way tie. India only have to be ahead of Ban NRR. Ban will have a
-ve NRR in their loss against SLK. India is very safe in this scenario
in terms of NRR

ii) SLK bt Ind; Ber bt Ban; SLK bt Ban (6, 2, 2, 2)
Three way tie again. Again India will only have to be ahead of Ban in
NRR. Since Ban would have lost both matches, their NRR will be very
low

Bottomline, in any of the scenarios India is never in competition with
SLK's NRR, only Bangladesh's

 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by tendulkar.co » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:41:58

Quote:


> > If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
> > victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
> > even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

> > Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

> > On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
> > batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

> What kind of stupid logic is this?

> Consider the following scenarios

> i) Ind bt SLK; SLK bt Ban; Ban bt Ber (4, 4, 4, 0)
> Three way tie. India only have to be ahead of Ban NRR. Ban will have a
> -ve NRR in their loss against SLK. India is very safe in this scenario
> in terms of NRR

> ii) SLK bt Ind; Ber bt Ban; SLK bt Ban (6, 2, 2, 2)
> Three way tie again. Again India will only have to be ahead of Ban in
> NRR. Since Ban would have lost both matches, their NRR will be very
> low

> Bottomline, in any of the scenarios India is never in competition with
> SLK's NRR, only Bangladesh's

Just to add, as an Indian fan you should be hoping that Sri Lanka will
thrash the living daylights out of Bangladesh so badly that,
Bangladesh even lose to Bermuda
 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by Rishi » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:46:54


Quote:

> > If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
> > victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
> > even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

> > Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

> > On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
> > batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

> What kind of stupid logic is this?

> Consider the following scenarios

> i) Ind bt SLK; SLK bt Ban; Ban bt Ber (4, 4, 4, 0)
> Three way tie. India only have to be ahead of Ban NRR. Ban will have a
> -ve NRR in their loss against SLK. India is very safe in this scenario
> in terms of NRR

> ii) SLK bt Ind; Ber bt Ban; SLK bt Ban (6, 2, 2, 2)
> Three way tie again. Again India will only have to be ahead of Ban in
> NRR. Since Ban would have lost both matches, their NRR will be very
> low

> Bottomline, in any of the scenarios India is never in competition with
> SLK's NRR, only Bangladesh's

(Scenario 1) It is mathematically still possible that Bangladesh beat
Bermuda so big that they end up on top based on NRR. In this case
India *would* be in competition with SL's NRR for the second spot.
 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by Chan » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:56:24


Quote:

> > If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
> > victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
> > even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

> > Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

> > On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
> > batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

> What kind of stupid logic is this?

> Consider the following scenarios

> i) Ind bt SLK; SLK bt Ban; Ban bt Ber (4, 4, 4, 0)
> Three way tie. India only have to be ahead of Ban NRR. Ban will have a
> -ve NRR in their loss against SLK. India is very safe in this scenario
> in terms of NRR

If SL beat Ban narrowly, and either
(i) Ban thrash Bermuda by 250+ and Ind narrowly beat SL, OR
(ii) Ban thrash Bermuda by less than 250 and Ind thrash SL

then Bangladesh could well end up with a NRR higher than SL. In that
scenario Ind and Bang would both qualify and SL would be out.

I'm beginning to think that any combination of 2 of the 3 sides going
through is about equally likely. Bangladesh beating India has just
levelled the playing field and made it an equal 3-horse race instead
of a 2-horse one. It'll be nailbiting right until the end of the
Bermuda-Bang game, assuming SL beat Bang and Ind beat SL which are the
most probable results.

I think the safest team at the moment is, ironically, India. Just a
simple win against SL, no matter how narrow, will IMO guarantee them a
spot. I think Bangladesh, should they lose to SL, will end up
regretting the way they dawdled at the end in the India match. They
could have won it about 3-4 overs earlier easily but chose not to.

After all is done and dusted, my prediction is for Ind and SL to go
through with Ind taking the points, just like most people expected/
hoped at the beginning. Bangladesh, despite a famous and convincing
victory over India, a reasonable drubbing of Bermuda and an
agonizingly close loss to SL, will end up wondering how on earth they
missed out.

- Chan

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Quote:
> ii) SLK bt Ind; Ber bt Ban; SLK bt Ban (6, 2, 2, 2)
> Three way tie again. Again India will only have to be ahead of Ban in
> NRR. Since Ban would have lost both matches, their NRR will be very
> low

> Bottomline, in any of the scenarios India is never in competition with
> SLK's NRR, only Bangladesh's

 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by Sanjiv Karmarka » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:19:18



Quote:
> If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
> victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
> even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

> Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

> On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
> batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

Nice job today, Geico!  :-)  Are you available on Friday?

(Funny how no one else got it.)

Sanjiv Karmarkar

 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by Geico Cavema » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:08:46

Quote:



>> If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
>> victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
>> even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

>> Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

>> On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
>> batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

> Nice job today, Geico!  :-)  Are you available on Friday?

> (Funny how no one else got it.)

> Sanjiv Karmarkar

I am always available. This time to watch Sri Lanka trounce India by 53
runs.
 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by linu » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:05:52



Quote:



> >> If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
> >> victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
> >> even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

> >> Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

> >> On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
> >> batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

> > Nice job today, Geico!  :-)  Are you available on Friday?

> > (Funny how no one else got it.)

> > Sanjiv Karmarkar

> I am always available. This time to watch Sri Lanka trounce India by 53
> runs.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Mate, reverse woofing does not work in world cup.
 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by gurl.. » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:41:20


Quote:





> > >> If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
> > >> victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
> > >> even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

> > >> Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

> > >> On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
> > >> batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

> > > Nice job today, Geico!  :-)  Are you available on Friday?

> > > (Funny how no one else got it.)

> > > Sanjiv Karmarkar

> > I am always available. This time to watch Sri Lanka trounce India by 53
> > runs.- Hide quoted text -

> > - Show quoted text -

> Mate, reverse woofing does not work in world cup.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

well if india could beat bermuda by a big margin (what a joke of a
match) bangla can beat them by perhaps a bigger margin..
what prevents TAMIM to score a double century...
this gets me thinking if (and a big if that is) more countries
genuinely get interested in cricket (unlike west indies) what that
does to paper tigers of india who are so idolized and adored by crazy
indian fans desperately searching for idols....as more defeats a  la
bangla ensue, what happens to the the pampered indian cricketers ....
 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by Fish Womp » Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:18:36

On 19 Mar 2007 13:37:54 -0700, "tendulkar.com"

Quote:


>> If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up with a
>> victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win). Then,
>> even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

>> Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

>> On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty Bermudan
>> batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

>What kind of stupid logic is this?

>Consider the following scenarios

>i) Ind bt SLK; SLK bt Ban; Ban bt Ber (4, 4, 4, 0)
>Three way tie. India only have to be ahead of Ban NRR. Ban will have a
>-ve NRR in their loss against SLK. India is very safe in this scenario
>in terms of NRR

>ii) SLK bt Ind; Ber bt Ban; SLK bt Ban (6, 2, 2, 2)
>Three way tie again. Again India will only have to be ahead of Ban in
>NRR. Since Ban would have lost both matches, their NRR will be very
>low

I wouldn't be losing too much sleep about the likelihood of Bermuda
beating Bangladesh. You beat India, you should be able to beat
Bermuda.

fish

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Quote:

>Bottomline, in any of the scenarios India is never in competition with
>SLK's NRR, only Bangladesh's

 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by sreekant » Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:18:25


Quote:






>> > >> If Bermuda score 66 more runs in their innings, India will end up
>> > >> with a
>> > >> victory margin of less than 243 runs (I am assuming that they win).
>> > >> Then,
>> > >> even if India beat SL (assuming SL beat Bangladesh), they are out.

>> > >> Bermuda could now knock India out of the WC, even without winning.

>> > >> On a related note, Agarkar has been carted around by the mighty
>> > >> Bermudan
>> > >> batsmen. Nice time you picked to fail, buddy.

>> > > Nice job today, Geico!  :-)  Are you available on Friday?

>> > > (Funny how no one else got it.)

>> > > Sanjiv Karmarkar

>> > I am always available. This time to watch Sri Lanka trounce India by 53
>> > runs.- Hide quoted text -

>> > - Show quoted text -

>> Mate, reverse woofing does not work in world cup.- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

> well if india could beat bermuda by a big margin (what a joke of a
> match) bangla can beat them by perhaps a bigger margin..
> what prevents TAMIM to score a double century...
> this gets me thinking if (and a big if that is) more countries
> genuinely get interested in cricket (unlike west indies) what that
> does to paper tigers of india who are so idolized and adored by crazy
> indian fans desperately searching for idols....as more defeats a  la
> bangla ensue, what happens to the the pampered indian cricketers ....

Yes, they beat an over rated team, great effort but just because they beat
india once does not make them equivalent to australia,
watch out for their asses being handed to them in their next encounter
against india. Why wait till then?, I am expecting  srilanka to shredding
them
to pieces tomorrow.

Sreekanth

 
 
 

India 66 runs away from a likely exit from WC

Post by Vik » Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:31:36

Quote:
> well if india could beat bermuda by a big margin (what a joke of a
> match) bangla can beat them by perhaps a bigger margin..
> what prevents TAMIM to score a double century...
> this gets me thinking if (and a big if that is) more countries
> genuinely get interested in cricket (unlike west indies) what that
> does to paper tigers of india who are so idolized and adored by crazy
> indian fans desperately searching for idols....as more defeats a  la
> bangla ensue, what happens to the the pampered indian cricketers ....- Hide quoted text -

No matter how weak a team, 400+ hasn't been achieved before in WC.
If you want to look at experience of the team then look at the fact
that commentators in India Bermuda match were not hoping to go beyond
350, yet they went well above that. That came purely from experience
as form wise except Yuvraj all went into the game with poor form.

Bangla bowled very well and batted very sensibly but at the same time
they were not challenged well enough. The conditions were vastly
different in morning and afternoon in the match. And the team winning
toss will have undue advantage. Back to the point of what would
prevent Tamim from scoring a double century is that he has never
scored one before. Winning does bring burden and more fierce
opposition. Next step for Banglas is living up the reputation.
regards,
Vik