800 million cricket fans deserve better

800 million cricket fans deserve better

Post by pravi » Tue, 24 Sep 1996 04:00:00


    It is a shame that a country with 800 million people and where cricket is
        absolute passion, cannot produce a "dream team" that has a combination
        of talent, techniquie and mental makeup to destroy any cricket team.
        The Indian players should go thru "mental stregnthening training" as
        they always seems to find themselves under pressure.

        Only thing that made a shade palatable was those 2 sixes from Prasad,
        one from Kumble and one from Kapoor.

        Indian team had the raw talent to win this 4-1. But Pakistani team
        can play better under pressure. Congrats to Pakistan for winning the
        series.

        Pravin

 
 
 

800 million cricket fans deserve better

Post by Sailesh Krishnamurth » Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>>>>> "pravin" == pravin  <pravin> writes:

    pravin>  Indian team had the raw talent to win this
    pravin> 4-1. But Pakistani team can play better under
    pravin> pressure. Congrats to Pakistan for winning the
    pravin> series.

I strongly disagree that the Indian team had the raw talent to
beat Pakistan 4-1. If anything (talent-wise) it should have been
4-1 Pakistan beating India. The Indian batting
(SRT-Azhar-Dravid-Ganguly) is really not outstanding as we
Indians believe. The Pakistan batting is quite solid
(Anwar-Malik-Inzy-Ijaz) and capable of responsible batting. Of
course, as far as bowling is concerned, it's a no-contest, there
is no way Srinath-Prasad-Kumble-Joshi can compare with
Wasim-Waqar-Mushy-Saqlain.  

Congrats to Pakistan, but it is sad that India came quite close
to beating them and did not succeed in the end !

--
Cheers
Sailesh
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/people/krish

 
 
 

800 million cricket fans deserve better

Post by Charles Le » Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
 (pravin) writes:

>     It is a shame that a country with 800 million people and where cricket is

             ^^^^^^^
             ^^^^^^^

Quote:
>    absolute passion, cannot produce a "dream team" that has a combination
>    of talent, techniquie and mental makeup to destroy any cricket team.
>    The Indian players should go thru "mental stregnthening training" as
>    they always seems to find themselves under pressure.

>    Only thing that made a shade palatable was those 2 sixes from Prasad,
>    one from Kumble and one from Kapoor.

>    Indian team had the raw talent to win this 4-1. But Pakistani team
>    can play better under pressure. Congrats to Pakistan for winning the
>    series.

>    Pravin

Perhaps it depends on your point of view, but from where I stand, I see no
shame attached to India's loss of the Sahara cup. The two teams were
extremely well matched, and if one recalls how the second ODI ended, TWO
BALLS made the difference in the outcome of the series. Had the Indian
attack been able to hold Pakistan scoreless (or to no more than one run)
for just two more deliveries, the final score would have been reversed in
India's favour, 3 - 2. Had it been a one-sided 5 - 0 or 4 - 1 drubbing, I
still would not have attached any "shame" when I think of the performances
of Dravid, Kumble, Azhar and several of the other players: nobody "folded".
In the past few years there has not been much to be proud of in the WI's
performances, but I see no shame attached to that ... Indian fans must
learn that being beaten by the team who plays better on the day is no
disgrace ... if it was, ANY loss would be cause for shame.
No ... both teams played well and provided us with some excellent cricket
over the past week. I realize that it must really cause great anguish to
Indian fans to have lost the cup to such a traditional opponent as
Pakistan (especially after leading 2 - 1), but shame? No way!
Cheers!
Charles

--
"There is a tide in the affairs of woman,
 Which taken at the flood leads ... God knows where!"
                                - Lord Byron ("Don Juan")

 
 
 

800 million cricket fans deserve better

Post by Saab Siddiq » Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:00:00

<junk deleted>

Quote:
>    Indian team had the raw talent to win this 4-1. But Pakistani team

                            ^^^^^^^^^^

is this a joke??

saab
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i am a .sig

 
 
 

800 million cricket fans deserve better

Post by Venkat Sridhar » Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:00:00

: Perhaps it depends on your point of view, but from where I stand, I see no
: shame attached to India's loss of the Sahara cup. The two teams were
[...]

-------
Agree completely. Both India and Pakistan played good cricket. The (marginally)
better team won.
------

: In the past few years there has not been much to be proud of in the WI's

[...]

-------
Well, Charles, here I don't quite agree. I think the West Indies has put up a
pathetic show over the past two years or so. Losses to the Australian Academy,
Kent, Kenya and even to Australia (:-) this last one is for the netters from
Australia, esp. Joshua :-) are surely bad enough to be really upset about (well,
one cannot quite call them "shameful", because somebody obviously played better
cricket to win, and there's nothing shameful about losing a game anyway).

I would'nt have minded seeing the Windies lose 0-2 or 1-3 even, to Australia, had
they played well and had still been outplayed. For example, in the Bombay test
against India, WI did play some good cricket, but still lost. Fair enough. On
the other hand, it's very different when they go and fritter their wickets away
and lose games for no reason at all...  To my mind, they could have won the
first league game in the World Cup (against India) but for a dropped catch by
Browne. As for the semi-final against Australia, to my mind, they could've won
it if they had'nt made asses of themselves chasing a moderate target. As it was,
they did a great job restricting Australia's (strong) batting lineup to a smallish
score...

: Charles

Win or lose, forever Windies.
Venky (Venkatesh Sridharan).

 
 
 

800 million cricket fans deserve better

Post by R. Bharat R » Thu, 26 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
 (pravin) writes:
> It is a shame that a country with 800 million people and where cricket is
>absolute passion, cannot produce a "dream team" that has a combination
>of talent, techniquie and mental makeup to destroy any cricket team.
>The Indian players should go thru "mental stregnthening training" as
>they always seems to find themselves under pressure.
>Only thing that made a shade palatable was those 2 sixes from Prasad,
>one from Kumble and one from Kapoor.
>Indian team had the raw talent to win this 4-1. But Pakistani team
>can play better under pressure. Congrats to Pakistan for winning the
>series.
>Pravin

Pravin,

I find nothing shameful about this series -- there is no shame in
losing to an opponent who plays better than you -- the only shame lies
in not doing your best.  This was a very close hard-fought series,
with one of the games going against India with one ball to spare.  We
lost 3-2 to a side that is slightly better than us, and I think the
final result is a fair one.  Of course, after the first 3 ODI's being
up 2-1, it is disappointing to lose the last 2 games, but we were
outplayed pure and simple.  No shame in that at all...

Bharat
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800 million cricket fans deserve better

Post by Guzni & Naheed Palmerston North New Zealan » Fri, 27 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>Pravin,

>I find nothing shameful about this series -- there is no shame in
>losing to an opponent who plays better than you -- the only shame lies
>in not doing your best.  This was a very close hard-fought series,
>with one of the games going against India with one ball to spare.  We
>lost 3-2 to a side that is slightly better than us, and I think the
>final result is a fair one.  Of course, after the first 3 ODI's being
>up 2-1, it is disappointing to lose the last 2 games, but we were
>outplayed pure and simple.  No shame in that at all...

>Bharat

Dear All Cricket Lovers

I think WE all know one thing. ONLY one team has to win out
of two. Both teams played very well. In fact India did perfom
well (over all better than Pakistan). I think series to some
extent is level 2-2. But because of luck Pakistan managed to
win that close match (by one ball and two wkts spare). Thus
in record books the series win will go in favour of Pakistan
3-2.

And that is the REWARD of playing under tense conditions. Otherwise
overall performance (winning by 97 runs, and 8 wkts) is
not bad at all.

Please ENJOY cricket, and not its FINAL results.

Thus I agree with all Bharat/Pervain (whoever) wrote above.
Though I disgree with the "Title" of the subject
"Re:800 million cricket fans deserve better".

In that case, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and China should
share about 75% of the Gold medals in all sports!!

hahahahahah

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Regards
GUZNI
Ph: +64-6-3504357; Fax: +64-6-3505622 Agri Engineering, Massey
University,
Palmerston North, New Zealand.