Indian players in county cricket

Indian players in county cricket

Post by V » Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:57:26


Rahul Dravid looks to be in fantastic form - his performance for
Scotland has been almost Tendulkaresque - lots of runs, great strike
rate, little support from the other end. He has scored lots of runs
but Scotland continues to lose. Has anyone watched any of his games?
Can the folks more conversant with county cricket tell me how his
performance rates on an overall scale? Was the opposition good enough?

On the other hand, irrespective of the level of the opposition, Yuvraj
Singh has been an unmitigated disaster. What happened? Anyone watch
him play? I did not expect such a poor performance from him.

Kaif has been so-so. Sehwag seemed to be playing quite well before the
injury.

Comments?

-VJ

 
 
 

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Post by Raghu Jetle » Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:02:33

Quote:

> Rahul Dravid looks to be in fantastic form - his performance for
> Scotland has been almost Tendulkaresque - lots of runs, great strike
> rate, little support from the other end. He has scored lots of runs
> but Scotland continues to lose. Has anyone watched any of his games?
> Can the folks more conversant with county cricket tell me how his
> performance rates on an overall scale? Was the opposition good enough?

I think Scotland can start winning if they make Dravid keep wickets also.
This will allow them to add one more batsman & strengthen their batting.

 
 
 

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Post by Lord Snoo » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 00:14:36

Quote:

> Rahul Dravid looks to be in fantastic form - his performance for
> Scotland has been almost Tendulkaresque - lots of runs, great strike
> rate, little support from the other end. He has scored lots of runs
> but Scotland continues to lose. Has anyone watched any of his games?
> Can the folks more conversant with county cricket tell me how his
> performance rates on an overall scale? Was the opposition good enough?

> On the other hand, irrespective of the level of the opposition, Yuvraj
> Singh has been an unmitigated disaster. What happened? Anyone watch
> him play? I did not expect such a poor performance from him.

> Kaif has been so-so. Sehwag seemed to be playing quite well before the
> injury.

> Comments?

> -VJ

Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
Scotland at this point.

 
 
 

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Post by yeska » Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:57:33

Quote:

> Rahul Dravid looks to be in fantastic form - his performance for
> Scotland has been almost Tendulkaresque - lots of runs, great strike
> rate, little support from the other end. He has scored lots of runs
> but Scotland continues to lose. Has anyone watched any of his games?
> Can the folks more conversant with county cricket tell me how his

The last century was a perfect definition of a "useless century".
Northamps score 319 off 45 overs. Scots make 244 with our man scoring
114 (off 102 balls). So Flintoffesque!
 
 
 

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Post by yeska » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 01:44:34

Quote:


> > Rahul Dravid looks to be in fantastic form - his performance for
> > Scotland has been almost Tendulkaresque - lots of runs, great strike
> > rate, little support from the other end. He has scored lots of runs
> > but Scotland continues to lose. Has anyone watched any of his games?
> > Can the folks more conversant with county cricket tell me how his
> > performance rates on an overall scale? Was the opposition good enough?

> > On the other hand, irrespective of the level of the opposition, Yuvraj
> > Singh has been an unmitigated disaster. What happened? Anyone watch
> > him play? I did not expect such a poor performance from him.

> > Kaif has been so-so. Sehwag seemed to be playing quite well before the
> > injury.

> > Comments?

> > -VJ

> Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
> has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
> Scotland at this point.

The eternal bridesmaid, never the bride!
 
 
 

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Post by Spaceman Spif » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 02:23:12

Raising himself from all fours,

Quote:

> Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
> has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
> Scotland at this point.

i see.
so why does dravid have over a hundred runs more than kent in fewer innings at
almost twice the average *and* a better strike rate, with more scores of 50+?
http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/2003/ENG_LOCAL/NLS/ST...
http://tinyurl.com/jbj2

--
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Sweet Suzie, last fair deal in the town
Put your gold money where your love is baby,
Before you let my deal go down

 
 
 

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Post by Spaceman Spif » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 02:28:38

Raising himself from all fours,

Quote:

> Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
> has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
> Scotland at this point.

and one more thing- of the 9 ncl matches that dravid and kent have played
together, dravid has outscored kent on 7 occasions.
care to retract your observation?

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Don't cry now, don't you cry, don't you cry anymore.
Sleep in the stars, don't you cry, dry your eyes on the wind.

 
 
 

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Post by Shariq A. Tar » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 02:52:16

Quote:

> Rahul Dravid looks to be in fantastic form - his performance for
> Scotland has been almost Tendulkaresque - lots of runs, great strike
> rate, little support from the other end. He has scored lots of runs
> but Scotland continues to lose. Has anyone watched any of his games?
> Can the folks more conversant with county cricket tell me how his
> performance rates on an overall scale? Was the opposition good enough?

> On the other hand, irrespective of the level of the opposition, Yuvraj
> Singh has been an unmitigated disaster. What happened? Anyone watch
> him play? I did not expect such a poor performance from him.

> Kaif has been so-so. Sehwag seemed to be playing quite well before the
> injury.

> Comments?

> -VJ

Have not seen any of them play county cricket but I believe that Yuvi
has problems against deliveries that move in the air. He is able to
handle pace and bounce with an aplomb that is not seen in Indian
batsmen not named Dravid and Tendulkar

I have not watched him all that much but from what I have seen I feel
his feet are somewhat "dead" when he plays strokes - as a result he
may not be able to adjust properly to a ball deviating in the air.

From what I have seen, when Yuvraj drives the ball, regardless of
whether it is an off or straight or on drive, his front foot almost
always points straight at the bowler. A habit such as this increases
the likelihood of playing across the line of the ball as well.

We could certainly make a case that as long as the bat is going
through the line of the ball it does not matter even if the feet are
pointing towards the wicketkeeper - but such a thing does not seem
natural and compact. It may be for Yuvraj but when the ball is
wobbling around, I do not see how, unless you judge the ball to
perfection and put the bat on it at the perfect angle, can you not
play across the line with this style

Sehwag in contract, despite his limited footwork, plays through this
line of the ball on his drives almost all the time. I believe his
incredible eye enables him to get into the perfect position to play
the drive. That's the reason I feel he has done well in countries
where he was not supposed to do well because of his limited footwork.

The other reason for Sehwag's success IMO is that he is fearless - he
seems to never be under any pressure and does not bother about losing
his wicket cheaply. In contrast Yuvraj seems a tad nervous when he
starts - he seems hesitant when the bowler starts dominating him.
Guess some people are just born this way

Shariq

 
 
 

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Post by Lenin Mara » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 04:16:02


Quote:

> Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
> has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
> Scotland at this point.

Read the stats and weep.

Peace,
Lenin

 
 
 

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Post by Dipak Bas » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 04:25:00


Quote:


> > Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
> > has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
> > Scotland at this point.
> Read the stats and weep.

Btw, Kaif broke a car windshield en route to a top-score for Derby in a
1-wkt loss to Gloucester. Kaif was eventually caught Windows bowled Ball for
72.

DB.

 
 
 

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Post by Jan Buxto » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 04:42:31


Quote:

> Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
> has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
> Scotland at this point.

Mmm,
vs Hampshire (h)
RS Dravid c Pothas b Mullally 25 (41)
JC Kent b Wasim Akram 57 (74)

Dravid 0-1 Kent

vs Somerset (a)
RS Dravid not out 120 (97)
JC Kent b Jones 48 (45)

Dravid 1-1 Kent

vs Middlesex (a)
RS Dravid lbw b Noffke 6 (17)
JC Kent run out 3 (10)

Dravid 2-1 Kent

vs Notts (h)
RS Dravid not out 129 (128)
JC Kent c Cairns b Logan 14 (32)

Dravid 3-1 Kent

vs Durham (h)
RS Dravid b Killeen 5 (7)
JC Kent b Shoaib Akhtar 0 (1)

Dravid 4-1 Kent

vs Lancashire (h)
RS Dravid c Hegg b Wood 26 (30)
JC Kent lbw b Mahmood 1 (9)

Dravid 5-1 Kent

vs Sussex (a)
RS Dravid c Prior b Martin-Jenkins 69 (79)
JC Kent not out 115 (113)

Dravid 5-2 Kent

vs Hampshire (a)
RS Dravid c Vaas b Udal 81 (99)
JC Kent not out 78 (74)

Dravid 6-2 Kent

vs Northants (a)
RS Dravid c Sales b Cook 114 (102)
JC Kent b Paynter 18 (15)

Dravid 7-2 Kent

Overall NUL Averages (M, I, NO, Runs, HS, Ave, SR, 100, 50)
R Dravid              9    9   2   575  129*  82.14  95.83   3  2
JC Kent              14   13   2   456  115*  41.45  89.58   1  3

--
Jan

 
 
 

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Post by Aditya Basru » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 05:35:44

Quote:





>>> Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
>>> has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
>>> Scotland at this point.
>> Read the stats and weep.

> Btw, Kaif broke a car windshield en route to a top-score for Derby in
> a 1-wkt loss to Gloucester. Kaif was eventually caught Windows bowled
> Ball for
> 72.

> DB.

You have to be joking.

Aditya

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Sat, 09 Aug 2003 05:34:21


Quote:




> > > Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
> > > has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
> > > Scotland at this point.
> > Read the stats and weep.

> Btw, Kaif broke a car windshield en route to a top-score for Derby in a
> 1-wkt loss to Gloucester. Kaif was eventually caught Windows bowled Ball
for
> 72.

There's obviously an error in the scorecard you read.  The one I looked at
said:

Di Venuto lbw bowled Smith 14
Selwood caught Ball bowled Smith 10
Bassano caught Russell bowled Gidman 10
Kaif broke Windows with Ball 72
etc.

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Lord Snoo » Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:30:01

Quote:



> > Rahul's been doing well for Scotland but Jon Kent (of South Africa)
> > has been out scoring him on most occasions and is the mainstay of
> > Scotland at this point.

> Mmm,
> vs Hampshire (h)
> RS Dravid c Pothas b Mullally 25 (41)
> JC Kent b Wasim Akram 57 (74)

> Dravid 0-1 Kent

> vs Somerset (a)
> RS Dravid not out 120 (97)
> JC Kent b Jones 48 (45)

> Dravid 1-1 Kent

> vs Middlesex (a)
> RS Dravid lbw b Noffke 6 (17)
> JC Kent run out 3 (10)

> Dravid 2-1 Kent

> vs Notts (h)
> RS Dravid not out 129 (128)
> JC Kent c Cairns b Logan 14 (32)

> Dravid 3-1 Kent

> vs Durham (h)
> RS Dravid b Killeen 5 (7)
> JC Kent b Shoaib Akhtar 0 (1)

> Dravid 4-1 Kent

> vs Lancashire (h)
> RS Dravid c Hegg b Wood 26 (30)
> JC Kent lbw b Mahmood 1 (9)

> Dravid 5-1 Kent

> vs Sussex (a)
> RS Dravid c Prior b Martin-Jenkins 69 (79)
> JC Kent not out 115 (113)

> Dravid 5-2 Kent

> vs Hampshire (a)
> RS Dravid c Vaas b Udal 81 (99)
> JC Kent not out 78 (74)

> Dravid 6-2 Kent

> vs Northants (a)
> RS Dravid c Sales b Cook 114 (102)
> JC Kent b Paynter 18 (15)

> Dravid 7-2 Kent

> Overall NUL Averages (M, I, NO, Runs, HS, Ave, SR, 100, 50)
> R Dravid              9    9   2   575  129*  82.14  95.83   3  2
> JC Kent              14   13   2   456  115*  41.45  89.58   1  3

Thanks for pointing out the details.
I followed only a couple of matches and coincidentally Kent did better
there - so I retract my comment with delight.