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Post by Justin Pat » Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Hello,

Can somebody please give me a backgrounder on a player I saw during the AXA
league game at Lords on 7/6/98.

He is a Durham player by the name of M Foster. Scored 70 and was a decent
bowler. Hit one of the biggest sixes I have seen (Hit the pavillion roof at
Lords).

Also I was impressed with Shah in the field but he did not look good with
the bat.

Others that impressed

D Nash -- Msex
Langer -- Of course
A Fraser -- 4 wickets M sex

M Betts -- Durham 3 wickets.

Are any of these players amongst the next crop or not? (obviously Langer is
Australian and can not be included in that question)

Regards

Justin

 
 
 

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Post by Garyt » Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:00:00

J

Quote:
> D Nash -- Msex
> Langer -- Of course
> A Fraser -- 4 wickets M sex

> M Betts -- Durham 3 wickets.

> Are any of these players amongst the next crop or not? (obviously
> Langer is
> Australian and can not be included in that question)

Are you perhaps talking about the D Nash that now plays test cricket for
New Zealand?  He is indeed a prospect, (has been for a few years, some
might say). If you happened to be following cricket in 1994, you may
have seen him get match figures of 11 for 169 in a test at Lords, and
scoring 56 with the bat in his only innings.

Currently he's in Sri Lanka, about to play Sri Lanka and India.

--
Garyth [still trying to get himself a "NashFan" nick on irc]

 
 
 

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Post by Justin Pat » Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> J

> > D Nash -- Msex
> > Langer -- Of course
> > A Fraser -- 4 wickets M sex

> > M Betts -- Durham 3 wickets.

> > Are any of these players amongst the next crop or not? (obviously
> > Langer is
> > Australian and can not be included in that question)

> Are you perhaps talking about the D Nash that now plays test cricket for
> New Zealand?  He is indeed a prospect, (has been for a few years, some
> might say). If you happened to be following cricket in 1994, you may
> have seen him get match figures of 11 for 169 in a test at Lords, and
> scoring 56 with the bat in his only innings.

I don't think it was him. It was only 2 weeks ago and I thought only one
O/S palyer could play for a county that being Langer. Also Nash kept in
this game and batted number 5.

I do agree though that NZ Dion Nash is a good prospect though.

Justin

 
 
 

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Post by Duane Pette » Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> J

> > D Nash -- Msex
> > Langer -- Of course
> > A Fraser -- 4 wickets M sex

> > M Betts -- Durham 3 wickets.

> > Are any of these players amongst the next crop or not? (obviously
> > Langer is
> > Australian and can not be included in that question)

> Are you perhaps talking about the D Nash that now plays test cricket for
> New Zealand?  He is indeed a prospect, (has been for a few years, some
> might say). If you happened to be following cricket in 1994, you may
> have seen him get match figures of 11 for 169 in a test at Lords, and
> scoring 56 with the bat in his only innings.

Heh I knew sooner or later before someone inadvertedly noticed this. I
saw the name first a couple of years ago when the New Zealand Under 19
side (including such notables as current NZ players McMillan and
Vettori, David Sewell, as well as soon-to-be Matt Bell, amongst other
now many first-class regulars) toured England (whose main name was Ben
Hollioake, and led by Owais Shah, Under 19 World Cup final captain
against us).

Being the ultra intelligent person that I am, I figured it was unlikely
to be Dion Nash masquerading as a 18 year old English schoolboy, so I
did a little checking - David (Charles) Nash in fact, he just happens to
now play for Middlesex like Dion did (mutter grumble ... damn you Gatts
and Middlesex ... blah blah ... killed his back from overuse ... mumble
... blasted idiots ... sigh ... never want another NZer to play there
again mutter).

Quote:
> Garyth [still trying to get himself a "NashFan" nick on irc]

Oi! You know I got in first and have it patented, trademarked,
copywritten, locked away in a Swiss bank vault, ...

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Post by Ian Sowma » Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:



> > J

> > > D Nash -- Msex
> > > Langer -- Of course
> > > A Fraser -- 4 wickets M sex

> > > M Betts -- Durham 3 wickets.

> > > Are any of these players amongst the next crop or not? (obviously
> > > Langer is
> > > Australian and can not be included in that question)

> > Are you perhaps talking about the D Nash that now plays test cricket for
> > New Zealand?  He is indeed a prospect, (has been for a few years, some
> > might say). If you happened to be following cricket in 1994, you may
> > have seen him get match figures of 11 for 169 in a test at Lords, and
> > scoring 56 with the bat in his only innings.

> I don't think it was him. It was only 2 weeks ago and I thought only one
> O/S palyer could play for a county that being Langer. Also Nash kept in
> this game and batted number 5.

> I do agree though that NZ Dion Nash is a good prospect though.

> Justin

I think the Nash in question is David. He may well have been one of
three 'keepers on the A tour to Ken/SL in the winter. That doesn't make
him an England  candidate though. On the other hand, Mel Betts is: he's
the leading wickettaker this season and was perhaps `unlucky' not to get
12th man duties for the Lord's Test. I haven't seen much of Betts in
action though, or indeed much of Foster, who by all accounts has played
very well all season. Higher honours not imminent though.

Ian.

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Holma » Thu, 18 Jun 1998 04:00:00


decided to opine:

Quote:
>Hello,

>Can somebody please give me a backgrounder on a player I saw during the AXA
>league game at Lords on 7/6/98.

>He is a Durham player by the name of M Foster. Scored 70 and was a decent
>bowler. Hit one of the biggest sixes I have seen (Hit the pavillion roof at
>Lords).

Former Yorks (and several other places) player. Spent a few years
hawking himself round on trials and not doing very well, although he
was obviously capable of hitting the ball hard and high, until he
finally got a contract with Durham.

Quote:
>Also I was impressed with Shah in the field but he did not look good with
>the bat.

That's unusual. He's getting better and better with the bat, and will
undoubtedly play for England, although I doubt that will happen for
about five years.

Quote:
>Others that impressed

>D Nash -- Msex
>Langer -- Of course
>A Fraser -- 4 wickets M sex

>M Betts -- Durham 3 wickets.

>Are any of these players amongst the next crop or not? (obviously Langer is
>Australian and can not be included in that question)

David Nash is having a very good season. He's supposed to be the
reserve wicket-keeper, but he's done so well in the IIs the last
couple of years that he's been put in the first team solely as a
batsman.

I'm not sure this is a good idea. Nash has the batting ability to be
another Healy or Knott at Test level, but he won't get there if he
doesn't spend time behind the stumps actually keeping. And the
continual rumpus over Stewart's role in the England side shows that we
can ill afford not to have all-rounders, such as wicket-keepers who
get 50s and more, available for selection.

Betts has started this season very well, and has reached the attention
of the selectors and pundits. I haven't seen him yet, but he is
supposed to be in the Cowan/Giddins league, ie just behind Headley and
Caddick as reserves for Gus, Goughie, and Toady.

The other Fraser is Gus's elder brother, who had an unsuccessful
period playing for Middx before going and spending a few seasons being
unsuccessful for Essex. He's playing for Middx this season on a match
by match basis, because apart from Gus and the odd spell from Johnson,
the Middx seam attack is pretty thin.

So, I'd say you saw three possible England players of the future:
Betts, if he keeps his form, is likely to play within the next two
years given the perpetual shortage of English pace bowlers who are
both good and fit. Owais Shah is in my mind a definite, but not before
about 2002 at the earliest. Whether Nash will get to play for England
is most likely to be dependent on him keeping, but he is also young,
and could develop into a major batsman instead. Look for him around
2003-5, I'd say.

Cheers,

Mike

--
Non sine Rampo Britannia victoriam habebit

 
 
 

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Post by Will » Fri, 19 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Are you perhaps talking about the D Nash that now plays test cricket for
>New Zealand?

He's talking about the 19 year old Middlesex wicketkeeper, David Nash

-----
W

 
 
 

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Post by Will » Fri, 19 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>Also I was impressed with Shah in the field but he did not look good with
>the bat.

You didn't like his batting?  Oh.

Quote:
>D Nash -- Msex
>Langer -- Of course
>A Fraser -- 4 wickets M sex

>M Betts -- Durham 3 wickets.

>Are any of these players amongst the next crop or not? (obviously Langer is
>Australian and can not be included in that question)

Melvin Betts is England's leading wicket taker this year, and looks a decent
prospect.  David Nash continues to impress, and could well be playing for
England soon.  A Fraser is Angus' brother, Alistair.  He's paid on a
mcth-by-match basis - not really a prospect :)

-----
W

 
 
 

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Post by Garyt » Fri, 19 Jun 1998 04:00:00

J

Quote:
> I don't think it was him. It was only 2 weeks ago and I thought only
> one
> O/S palyer could play for a county that being Langer. Also Nash kept
> in
> this game and batted number 5.

> I do agree though that NZ Dion Nash is a good prospect though.

> Justin

Hmmm you're right of course.  I just saw the D Nash and Middlesex and
jumped to conclusions :-)
....since discovered it was David Nash.

--
Garyth