Sky (NZ) TV Coverage

Sky (NZ) TV Coverage

Post by Francis Payn » Tue, 28 Dec 1999 04:00:00


I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

e.g.

1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

2. The Dilmah Tea Party

3. The commentators

(As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
interested in ANY feedback)

There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
since the first test began.

 
 
 

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Post by jrd » Wed, 29 Dec 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> e.g.

> 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)
> 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

The is a very good idea and should have been throught off a long time ago

Quote:
> 3. The commentators

When is Stephen Boock going to be commentator or are they been use on match
by match  like Danny did the frist test and Wille doing second test. And is
sky going to use all commenatator in the one day series.
Quote:
> (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> interested in ANY feedback)

> There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> since the first test began.


 
 
 

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Post by Francis Payn » Wed, 29 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Stephen Boock will do the one game in Dunedin and possibly the two games
in Christchurch.
Quote:



> > I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> > e.g.

> > 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

> > 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

> The is a very good idea and should have been throught off a long time ago

> > 3. The commentators

> When is Stephen Boock going to be commentator or are they been use on match
> by match  like Danny did the frist test and Wille doing second test. And is
> sky going to use all commenatator in the one day series.

> > (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> > interested in ANY feedback)

> > There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> > since the first test began.


 
 
 

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Post by Craig Mage » Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Much better and more frequent stats - which is important because I know very
few cricket fans who don't also love stats. Cricket is all about stats. So a
definite improvement here.
Dilmah tea party is excellent. Very informal chat with the two best
commentators in NZ. I like the question-answering thing too. Definitely one
to keep.
Commentators are ok. As much as he annoys me after a while, I do miss Glenn
Turners perspective. But having Coney is great. Don't know about Nisbo.
Sometimes he seems a bit out of his depth. I like the guy, but he is a
better rugby commentator.
Quote:

> I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> e.g.

> 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

> 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

> 3. The commentators

> (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> interested in ANY feedback)

> There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> since the first test began.

 
 
 

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Post by robb » Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Coney, I feel, is an excellent commentator, speaks clearly and knows the
game.  Ian Smith is fine, Crowe... well, he's okay but a bit 'airy fairy'.
I also think Turner would be a handy commentator, he has a better cricket
brain than most people in NZ cricket.

DK Morrison's commentary is not yet up to standard.

FWIW I wish I had SS2 so I could watch Aus/India instead of two sub-par
teams.  Some of the bowling yesterday was .. well, very poor.

Cairns looks to be maturing very well though and has to have a claim as the
world's best allrounder these days, either him or Pollock.  CC is still a
juvenile tosser though.

Regards,
Robbo


Quote:
> Much better and more frequent stats - which is important because I know
very
> few cricket fans who don't also love stats. Cricket is all about stats. So
a
> definite improvement here.
> Dilmah tea party is excellent. Very informal chat with the two best
> commentators in NZ. I like the question-answering thing too. Definitely
one
> to keep.
> Commentators are ok. As much as he annoys me after a while, I do miss
Glenn
> Turners perspective. But having Coney is great. Don't know about Nisbo.
> Sometimes he seems a bit out of his depth. I like the guy, but he is a
> better rugby commentator.


> > I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> > e.g.

> > 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

> > 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

> > 3. The commentators

> > (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> > interested in ANY feedback)

> > There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> > since the first test began.

 
 
 

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Post by bobs » Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Coney, I feel, is an excellent commentator, speaks clearly and knows the
> game.  Ian Smith is fine, Crowe... well, he's okay but a bit 'airy fairy'.
> I also think Turner would be a handy commentator, he has a better cricket
> brain than most people in NZ cricket.

> DK Morrison's commentary is not yet up to standard.

> FWIW I wish I had SS2 so I could watch Aus/India instead of two sub-par
> teams.  Some of the bowling yesterday was .. well, very poor.

You want to watch India play?? Hmmm.
Quote:

> Cairns looks to be maturing very well though and has to have a claim as the
> world's best allrounder these days, either him or Pollock.  CC is still a
> juvenile tosser though.

> Regards,
> Robbo



> > Much better and more frequent stats - which is important because I know
> very
> > few cricket fans who don't also love stats. Cricket is all about stats. So
> a
> > definite improvement here.
> > Dilmah tea party is excellent. Very informal chat with the two best
> > commentators in NZ. I like the question-answering thing too. Definitely
> one
> > to keep.
> > Commentators are ok. As much as he annoys me after a while, I do miss
> Glenn
> > Turners perspective. But having Coney is great. Don't know about Nisbo.
> > Sometimes he seems a bit out of his depth. I like the guy, but he is a
> > better rugby commentator.


> > > I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> > > e.g.

> > > 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

> > > 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

> > > 3. The commentators

> > > (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> > > interested in ANY feedback)

> > > There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> > > since the first test began.

 
 
 

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Post by wozz » Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> Coney, I feel, is an excellent commentator, speaks clearly and knows the
> game.  Ian Smith is fine, Crowe... well, he's okay but a bit 'airy fairy'.
> I also think Turner would be a handy commentator, he has a better cricket
> brain than most people in NZ cricket.

Agree with you here.

Quote:
> DK Morrison's commentary is not yet up to standard.

He seems pretty awkward.

Quote:
> FWIW I wish I had SS2 so I could watch Aus/India instead of two sub-par
> teams.  Some of the bowling yesterday was .. well, very poor.

Haha, I'm getting Sky Digital by the end of the month. Only $99 setup
and then $10 less than normal sky per month. According to my uncle
you can flick across channels and not miss a ball of either match.
 
 
 

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Post by bobs » Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:



> > Coney, I feel, is an excellent commentator, speaks clearly and knows the
> > game.  Ian Smith is fine, Crowe... well, he's okay but a bit 'airy fairy'.
> > I also think Turner would be a handy commentator, he has a better cricket
> > brain than most people in NZ cricket.

> Agree with you here.

> > DK Morrison's commentary is not yet up to standard.

> He seems pretty awkward.

> > FWIW I wish I had SS2 so I could watch Aus/India instead of two sub-par
> > teams.  Some of the bowling yesterday was .. well, very poor.

> Haha, I'm getting Sky Digital by the end of the month. Only $99 setup
> and then $10 less than normal sky per month. According to my uncle
> you can flick across channels and not miss a ball of either match.

Uh...surely you mean $10 more than normal sky? Otherwise when and where do I go
to switch? ;-)

How many channels is it? ~25 channels?

 
 
 

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Post by Francis Payn » Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the feedback.

As far as Nisbo (Grant Nisbett) is concerned, it raises an interesting
point.

I think that more use should be made of the professional commentator on
TV (as radio do).

Former test cricketers do not always make for great listening and in
some cases they disagree - neither wanting to concede a point.

From my point of view, working with Nisbo, I can assure you that he
knows his stuff (he's been a cricket commentator on radio and TV far
longer than any of the others).

In addition, his comments man finds it good to work with him as he will
call the game with no frills allowing the expert more space to make his
point.  

Any further comments appreciated.

Quote:

> Much better and more frequent stats - which is important because I know very
> few cricket fans who don't also love stats. Cricket is all about stats. So a
> definite improvement here.
> Dilmah tea party is excellent. Very informal chat with the two best
> commentators in NZ. I like the question-answering thing too. Definitely one
> to keep.
> Commentators are ok. As much as he annoys me after a while, I do miss Glenn
> Turners perspective. But having Coney is great. Don't know about Nisbo.
> Sometimes he seems a bit out of his depth. I like the guy, but he is a
> better rugby commentator.


> > I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> > e.g.

> > 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

> > 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

> > 3. The commentators

> > (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> > interested in ANY feedback)

> > There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> > since the first test began.

 
 
 

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Post by Simon Thomps » Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
> I think that more use should be made of the professional commentator on
> TV (as radio do).

I agree. Many 'comments men' are far better on the radio than they are
on TV. E.g., Richard Hadlee. I think the professional ball-by-ball
commentator gives the comments man more time to think about what they
are going to say. They can also keep them on track, i.e., talking
about the game.

-----------------------------------------
Simon Thompson
Christchurch
New Zealand

 
 
 

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Post by Craig Mage » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

yeah i wish i had Sky Sport 2 as well
although it's nice to know that if i don't make it to a Foorball Kingz home game
that it will be on Sky Sport 1, even if it does mean they take off the Aussie v
India test

Craig

Quote:

> FWIW I wish I had SS2 so I could watch Aus/India instead of two sub-par
> teams.  Some of the bowling yesterday was .. well, very poor.

> Regards,
> Robbo



> > Much better and more frequent stats - which is important because I know
> very
> > few cricket fans who don't also love stats. Cricket is all about stats. So
> a
> > definite improvement here.
> > Dilmah tea party is excellent. Very informal chat with the two best
> > commentators in NZ. I like the question-answering thing too. Definitely
> one
> > to keep.
> > Commentators are ok. As much as he annoys me after a while, I do miss
> Glenn
> > Turners perspective. But having Coney is great. Don't know about Nisbo.
> > Sometimes he seems a bit out of his depth. I like the guy, but he is a
> > better rugby commentator.


> > > I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> > > e.g.

> > > 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

> > > 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

> > > 3. The commentators

> > > (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> > > interested in ANY feedback)

> > > There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> > > since the first test began.

 
 
 

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Post by Craig Mage » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Yes after some thought on this point, I think this is an important point - that he
calls it as it is rather than with some 'agenda' in mind. Not sure 'agenda' is the
word I want but nevertheless.........
Wouldn't want to take anything away from Nisbo (especially in the way of pies,
rolls, any kind of food, by all accounts).

I was very interested to read a posting of yours about month or so ago with
regards to the background of Graeme Hughes - I'm sure lots of NZer's have no idea
of his cricketing background. I think most people associate commentaters with
particular sports, much like actors are stereotyped I guess. Another interesting
person to listen to is Peter Montgomery doing rugby. He really knows his stuff and
I was very impressed.

The Channel Nine commentary team must be getting to the point where some changes
can't be far off.......? I mean in terms of age and
retirements................although they have moved Healy and Taylor in and they
seem to be permament
already......

Go the Black Caps.

Craig.

Quote:

> Thanks for the feedback.

> As far as Nisbo (Grant Nisbett) is concerned, it raises an interesting
> point.

> I think that more use should be made of the professional commentator on
> TV (as radio do).

> Former test cricketers do not always make for great listening and in
> some cases they disagree - neither wanting to concede a point.

> From my point of view, working with Nisbo, I can assure you that he
> knows his stuff (he's been a cricket commentator on radio and TV far
> longer than any of the others).

> In addition, his comments man finds it good to work with him as he will
> call the game with no frills allowing the expert more space to make his
> point.

> Any further comments appreciated.


> > Much better and more frequent stats - which is important because I know very
> > few cricket fans who don't also love stats. Cricket is all about stats. So a
> > definite improvement here.
> > Dilmah tea party is excellent. Very informal chat with the two best
> > commentators in NZ. I like the question-answering thing too. Definitely one
> > to keep.
> > Commentators are ok. As much as he annoys me after a while, I do miss Glenn
> > Turners perspective. But having Coney is great. Don't know about Nisbo.
> > Sometimes he seems a bit out of his depth. I like the guy, but he is a
> > better rugby commentator.


> > > I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> > > e.g.

> > > 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

> > > 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

> > > 3. The commentators

> > > (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> > > interested in ANY feedback)

> > > There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> > > since the first test began.

 
 
 

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Post by Craig Mage » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

$10 less than normal per month ?
are you not getting Movies then ?
i looked into it and its $9.99 per month, but if you want Sky Movies that adds
another $4 per month
so its more expensive than at present with Sky Sport, Movies, Sky 1 and CNN.
Also, to get the $99 setup you must have had Sky for 5 years I think.

Craig.

Quote:

> Haha, I'm getting Sky Digital by the end of the month. Only $99 setup
> and then $10 less than normal sky per month. According to my uncle
> you can flick across channels and not miss a ball of either match.

 
 
 

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Post by Francis Payn » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> Yes after some thought on this point, I think this is an important point - that he
> calls it as it is rather than with some 'agenda' in mind. Not sure 'agenda' is the
> word I want but nevertheless.........

Yes he calls the game without any pretentions and leaves the expert
opinions to the experts.

Quote:
> Wouldn't want to take anything away from Nisbo (especially in the way of pies,
> rolls, any kind of food, by all accounts).

> I was very interested to read a posting of yours about month or so ago with
> regards to the background of Graeme Hughes - I'm sure lots of NZer's have no idea
> of his cricketing background.

Dead right. One criticism of Max was that Sky had this "rugby league
commentator" calling cricket.

Hughes was still playing first grade in Sydney till about four years
ago.

Quote:
> I think most people associate
> commentaters with
> particular sports, much like actors are stereotyped I guess. Another interesting
> person to listen to is Peter Montgomery doing rugby. He really knows his stuff and
> I was very impressed.

Montogomery did the TV commentary for one of the all time famous games
of league - Ponsonby v Cronulla in 1973.

Quote:

> The Channel Nine commentary team must be getting to the point where some changes
> can't be far off.......? I mean in terms of age and
> retirements................although they have moved Healy and Taylor in and they
> seem to be permament
> already......

They are struggling. This awful "target zone" or whatever can't disguise
a tired commentary.
Quote:

> Go the Black Caps.

> Craig.


> > Thanks for the feedback.

> > As far as Nisbo (Grant Nisbett) is concerned, it raises an interesting
> > point.

> > I think that more use should be made of the professional commentator on
> > TV (as radio do).

> > Former test cricketers do not always make for great listening and in
> > some cases they disagree - neither wanting to concede a point.

> > From my point of view, working with Nisbo, I can assure you that he
> > knows his stuff (he's been a cricket commentator on radio and TV far
> > longer than any of the others).

> > In addition, his comments man finds it good to work with him as he will
> > call the game with no frills allowing the expert more space to make his
> > point.

> > Any further comments appreciated.


> > > Much better and more frequent stats - which is important because I know very
> > > few cricket fans who don't also love stats. Cricket is all about stats. So a
> > > definite improvement here.
> > > Dilmah tea party is excellent. Very informal chat with the two best
> > > commentators in NZ. I like the question-answering thing too. Definitely one
> > > to keep.
> > > Commentators are ok. As much as he annoys me after a while, I do miss Glenn
> > > Turners perspective. But having Coney is great. Don't know about Nisbo.
> > > Sometimes he seems a bit out of his depth. I like the guy, but he is a
> > > better rugby commentator.


> > > > I'll ask again, anyone got any comments re Sky's coverage?

> > > > e.g.

> > > > 1. The many statistical tables which were shown (esp day 2)

> > > > 2. The Dilmah Tea Party

> > > > 3. The commentators

> > > > (As I'm involved with the production, no point in me commenting but very
> > > > interested in ANY feedback)

> > > > There are 4500 new subscribers waiting to be connected to Sky - all
> > > > since the first test began.