Bombay fall behind on the asking rate

Bombay fall behind on the asking rate

Post by Uday Raja » Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:55:15


122/5 in 29 overs, chasing 255. Which would be a tricky situation
in a dodo, worsened considerably by it actually being a f.c.
match. Madhya Pradesh crawled to 255 in 129 overs, and someone
forgot to tell Bombay it was still an f.c. match when they went
out to bat. Bombay looks dead as a ...well...dodo.
 
 
 

Bombay fall behind on the asking rate

Post by Amol Cricketwall » Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:37:50

Quote:

> 122/5 in 29 overs, chasing 255. Which would be a tricky situation
> in a dodo, worsened considerably by it actually being a f.c.
> match. Madhya Pradesh crawled to 255 in 129 overs, and someone
> forgot to tell Bombay it was still an f.c. match when they went
> out to bat. Bombay looks dead as a ...well...dodo.

Awful performance, even if slightly better than 122/5 by days end.

Basically a poorish side picked, and theyre paying for it. Partly things
they couldnt control of course (Bahutule and Powar off playing for BPXI,
Munaf and Salvi injured - and presumably Mane injured too, since he
made an unbeaten century in the last innings but didnt play this
game).

But other things they *could* control. They picked Abhijit Shetye in
the final squad - he is the backup keeper (and Iam not even totally
sure he ought to be backup keeper, there is some talk that he's helped
by belonging to the club he belongs to - he isnt as good a bat as others
who are keeper-prospects, but he is a very very very stody bat). Now
when Mane got hurt, suddenly they picked Shetye as a specialist opener
for this match! Ridiculous! There are far better pure batsmen in the
city, dozens of them - even better openers, for sure. But they have
Thakkar in the squad (except he's not an opener), and so they went
with the backup keeper to open instead. I dont know whats going on
with them, really.

So Bombay ends up loaded with newcomers in this match - Shinde, Mota
and Shetye all making their debuts I think (and Hazare has barely
played for Bombay before, like 3/4 games in 3 years). A good seamers
pitch, they should never have let MP get 255 - it was 130/6 or
some such, and then basically it was a total team effort from MP
and Bombay's seamers couldnt do anything. Nobody did much, just
everyone put on about 30 runs a wicket. 160-odd for 7, 200 or so
for 8, 230 for 9, 255 allout. A very poor effort by the bowlers
(Agarkar the big culprit, because the rest are totally inexperienced -
Hazare only a few games old, and Shinde and Mota both debutants. They
gave up 34 extras!)

In the batting, a very poor effort again. Shetye failed, as expected
really. Jaffer and Amol were the big disappointments after the last
game. Mota, making a debut, was pushed up to #6 - Iam really not sure
he's a #6 at Ranji level at the moment. And without Bahutule and Powar
the tail has very little batting capability - we've lost count of
the number of times the tail's batting has saved us in the past
couple of seasons. There are other allrounders available, really -
they just didnt get picked. (Where is Robin Morris, for one).

This game should have a result, really - and Bombay is in very bad
shape if thats the case. Already they failed to get full points from
the last match, and they are digging themselves a hole to start the
year (unlike the last couple of years, when they always got fullpoints
early and broke out into a big lead). Their only real hope is to try
and hang on for a long time today (which means batting slower), and
try and get a first-innings lead but also use up enough time to get
a draw and some points from this game. A poor effort overall so
far this season, however.

Sadiq [ batting reverting to that from two years ago ] Yusuf

 
 
 

Bombay fall behind on the asking rate

Post by Uday Raja » Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:14:00

Agree with comments about selection and so on. Well, I don't
disagree, anyway, I don't know much about the fringe and
non-Ranji players.

Quote:
> This game should have a result, really - and Bombay is in very bad
> shape if thats the case. Already they failed to get full points from
> the last match, and they are digging themselves a hole to start the
> year (unlike the last couple of years, when they always got fullpoints
> early and broke out into a big lead).

Yes, this was my concern too. Failed to win the first one, not
looking likely to win this one...a 4-day match gives you 360
overs. They let MP bat for over a third of that in the first
innings, making it unlikely that they can win this one. Which
means they are in serious danger of not making the semi-finals.

Quote:
> Their only real hope is to try
> and hang on for a long time today (which means batting slower), and
> try and get a first-innings lead but also use up enough time to get
> a draw and some points from this game. A poor effort overall so
> far this season, however.

If they get the first innings lead, this match is a draw for
sure. MP will bat out another 120 overs for 250 runs.

 
 
 

Bombay fall behind on the asking rate

Post by Southpa » Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:40:41

<snip>

Quote:

> So Bombay ends up loaded with newcomers in this match - Shinde, Mota
> and Shetye all making their debuts I think (and Hazare has barely
> played for Bombay before, like 3/4 games in 3 years). A good seamers

Incidentally, the guy who ripped through Bombay, Sunil Dholpure, was
also making his FC debut. Big boots to fill too: those of Narendra
Hirwani. Darn good performance on FC debut: 5/68 against the Ranji
champs including the absolute prize wickets - at domestic level - of
Jaffer, Muzumdar, and Agarkar.

Sunil joined his brother Sachin, an opening bat, in the MP XI. Sunil
and Sachin, hmm.

-Samarth [ good day for TN and TN exports, even tho Sathish got a pair:
100 for Maqsood, 49 and 63* for Vasanth, 98 and 3 catches for Prasanna
and some tidy batting/bowling from Raghavendran ].

 
 
 

Bombay fall behind on the asking rate

Post by Amol Cricketwall » Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:14:57

Quote:


> <snip>

> > So Bombay ends up loaded with newcomers in this match - Shinde, Mota
> > and Shetye all making their debuts I think (and Hazare has barely
> > played for Bombay before, like 3/4 games in 3 years). A good seamers

> Incidentally, the guy who ripped through Bombay, Sunil Dholpure, was
> also making his FC debut. Big boots to fill too: those of Narendra
> Hirwani. Darn good performance on FC debut: 5/68 against the Ranji
> champs including the absolute prize wickets - at domestic level - of
> Jaffer, Muzumdar, and Agarkar.

Yep. For which trouble, BTW, Sunil was dropped today when MP took on
Karnataka :-) He is 25 now and has played OD games before, but not
Ranji - and was clearly only a fill-in. They say he's offspin, but for
some reason I thought he bowled seam-up in Bombay, not sure. MP is
suffering his absence too - Karnataka is killing them right now,
133/0 by lunch on the first morning! Karnataka has struggled badly
this season and are still without a point, and are obviously going to
fight very hard (theyve been doing this the past 3/4 years - digging
a hole for themselves early and then getting out of it). They dropped
their captain J.Arun Kumar after the failure to get a point against
Gujarat - and made Somasundar captain for this match, bringing in
young Robin Uthappa to open. And he, strokeplayer that he is (having
a high score of 40 in his life and an average of 11 so far, despite
being a terrific India U19 OD opener) has taken MP to the cleaners on
the first morning, getting 77* by lunch (and 81* currently).

Quote:
> Sunil joined his brother Sachin, an opening bat, in the MP XI. Sunil
> and Sachin, hmm.

Yes, and even more remarkably its a coincidence :-) Sachin was born
in 1985 - and so its unlikely the father knew about Tendulkar, unless
he followed Bombay schools cricket quite closely :-)

Sachin Dholpure has been a bit of a disappointment so far at Ranji
level, thought its early. He was in the MP U25 side a year or two
ago, and was brilliant - young steady opener, who just kept putting
up big scores and looking very good at the U25 level (even at national
U25 level, against Bombay U25 and TN U25 - MP U25 beat them both and
won the U25 title that season). But so far at the Ranji level, now in
his second season, he hasnt really produced any big scores. Hopefully
he will soon.

Quote:
> -Samarth [ good day for TN and TN exports, even tho Sathish got a pair:
> 100 for Maqsood, 49 and 63* for Vasanth, 98 and 3 catches for Prasanna
> and some tidy batting/bowling from Raghavendran ].

A couple of Bombay-exports had a pretty good second round too, in contrast
with the Bombay side itself. Rajesh Pawar basically got Baroda 2 points -
despite putting up 550 on first innings, Maharashtra really seemed to
have the chase under control - they were 420/4 overnight and in great
shape. They went on to under 100 needed with 5 wickets in hand even
on the last morning (with good bats to come - keeper Satbhai, allrounder
Khadkikar etc). But Pawar got 3 quick wickets on the last morning in
a row and basically settled it - he ended up like 50 overs, 5/79 as
Maharashtra fell short. His first good performance for Baroda in his
second season for them.

But the best round of all belonged to Mandar Phadke, of Indian Oil
and Shivaji Park Youngsters, and now Goa. He has stuck to Goa this
season (others like Rohit Rane, Amit Dani etc have left it seems) -
and he is even captaining Goa this year. With their weakened side they
wont go anywhere this season, but Phadke is probably enjoying getting
to play first-class cricket as he deserves to, and is even captaining
and building the team. Services put up 507/5 declared in this match,
and Goa were 80/3 when Phadke came in. From there Goa slid to 180/9
with Phadke at one end - and then the last pair put on 64 runs of
which the #11 made *zero* :-) It sounds like a quite amazing
partnership - 64 runs in 13 overs, of which the #11 made 0 off 32
balls before he was dismissed. Thus it seems that Phadke scored
64* off 22 balls in this partnership (or maybe a bit less, if there
were extras). Either way, he ended up 130* as Goa were 244 allout.

So Goa followed on 263 runs behind. Phadke again came in at 80/3,
and this time he made 125* and was in the middle for 64 overs as
Goa managed to survive to a draw.

So Mandar Phadke, finally getting to play first-class cricket as he
has always deserved to, has now played 12 Ranji Trophy games in his
career. In those 12 games he has scored 6 centuries, and made a
little over a 1000 runs at a career average of 63. It would be
nice if he at least got some Duleep Trophy consideration sometime -
but it is unlike to happen I suppose.

Sadiq [ Uthappa just got his maiden ton. Good on the kid ] Yusuf

P.S. Punjab 113/7 against Baroda, off 47 overs - and not a single
ball has been bowled by a spinner yet. Good to see Mohali retains
its character. Yuvraj was bowled for a duck however.

P.P.S. The Assam/UP game in Kanpur is being played at the Kamla
Club, due to the test match. Pre-lunch, first day, 142/5 off 30
overs (almost 5/over), all 5 wickets to the pacemen. So not all
pitches in Kanpur are slow and lifeless :-)