Lets Hope Ramprakash gets the nod, everyone would love to see that.

Lets Hope Ramprakash gets the nod, everyone would love to see that.

Post by Professor » Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:12:47


Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.
 
 
 

Lets Hope Ramprakash gets the nod, everyone would love to see that.

Post by Mike Goodin » Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:20:36


Quote:
> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.

Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
why not Ramps ?

Mike Gooding
--------------------

 
 
 

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Post by Walter Mitt » Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:06:05

Quote:


>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.

> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
> why not Ramps ?

> Mike Gooding
> --------------------

The players in the team were picked for a reason.

Stick with them. Get behind them. Give them some confidence.

This baying for *** is ridiculous.

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Fo » Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:06:58

Quote:



>>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.
>> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
>> why not Ramps ?

>> Mike Gooding
>> --------------------

> The players in the team were picked for a reason.

> Stick with them. Get behind them. Give them some confidence.

> This baying for *** is ridiculous.

you  must  be  mad,  bopara is a one  day player bell is  rubbish and
colly  has  been totally  worked  out  by  australia
i like the guy  but there is  no point  him playing at all.
time  to bring in a new  middle  order  en bloc

andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Walter Mitt » Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:32:04

Quote:




>>>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.
>>> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
>>> why not Ramps ?

>>> Mike Gooding
>>> --------------------

>> The players in the team were picked for a reason.

>> Stick with them. Get behind them. Give them some confidence.

>> This baying for *** is ridiculous.

> you  must  be  mad,  bopara is a one  day player bell is  rubbish and
> colly  has  been totally  worked  out  by  australia
> i like the guy  but there is  no point  him playing at all.
> time  to bring in a new  middle  order  en bloc

> andrew

Some magical middle order that you conjure up? You can't even upper case
your typing never mind pick a cricket team old chap.
 
 
 

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Post by Luke Curti » Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:52:40

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:06:58 GMT, Andrew Fox

Quote:




>>>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.
>>> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
>>> why not Ramps ?

>>> Mike Gooding
>>> --------------------

>> The players in the team were picked for a reason.

>> Stick with them. Get behind them. Give them some confidence.

>> This baying for *** is ridiculous.

>you  must  be  mad,  bopara is a one  day player bell is  rubbish and
>colly  has  been totally  worked  out  by  australia

Well that is very strange that legends like McGrath and Warne (and Lee
and Clark for that matter) could not "work out" Collingwood when he
scored 206 at the Adelaide Oval but the current Aus bowlers can?

In Cardiff he was the second highest scorer in the first innings and
the highest scorer in the second innings, almost single handedly
saving the game.

At Lords in the second innings he scored a quick 50 to set up the
early declaration and set up the win.

3 failures do not make him worthy of dropping - Cook has not passed 32
in the last 4 innings but I don't see you suggesting dropping him.

Considering that in the last year prior to the Ashes he has scored 135
and 61 against SA, 108 against India, 113, 96, 161 and 60no against WI
- he has scored a century in every series he is due one this series.

Quote:
>i like the guy  but there is  no point  him playing at all.
>time  to bring in a new  middle  order  en bloc

Like who?

Quote:

>andrew

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Post by mike » Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:27:22


Quote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:06:58 GMT, Andrew Fox





> >>>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.
> >>> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
> >>> why not Ramps ?

> >>> Mike Gooding
> >>> --------------------

> >> The players in the team were picked for a reason.

> >> Stick with them. Get behind them. Give them some confidence.

> >> This baying for *** is ridiculous.

i doubt whether they will drop any of the batsmen. to drop
them now would be to admit they made a mistake keeping
Bopara etc after lords and edgbaston, and selectors dont
like to admit they got anything wrong.

i thought ramps should have been picked for the last tour of
oz, but i think its a bit unlikely now. i think sidebottom should
have played not harmison at headingley, and they needed
an extra batsman rather than swann.

also, there seems a policy of not dropping players becos
it might upset them.

mike

 
 
 

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Post by Walter Mitt » Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:36:27

Quote:

> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:06:58 GMT, Andrew Fox




>>>>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.
>>>> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
>>>> why not Ramps ?

>>>> Mike Gooding
>>>> --------------------

>>> The players in the team were picked for a reason.

>>> Stick with them. Get behind them. Give them some confidence.

>>> This baying for *** is ridiculous.

>>you  must  be  mad,  bopara is a one  day player bell is  rubbish and
>>colly  has  been totally  worked  out  by  australia

> Well that is very strange that legends like McGrath and Warne (and Lee
> and Clark for that matter) could not "work out" Collingwood when he
> scored 206 at the Adelaide Oval but the current Aus bowlers can?

> In Cardiff he was the second highest scorer in the first innings and
> the highest scorer in the second innings, almost single handedly
> saving the game.

> At Lords in the second innings he scored a quick 50 to set up the
> early declaration and set up the win.

> 3 failures do not make him worthy of dropping - Cook has not passed 32
> in the last 4 innings but I don't see you suggesting dropping him.

> Considering that in the last year prior to the Ashes he has scored 135
> and 61 against SA, 108 against India, 113, 96, 161 and 60no against WI
> - he has scored a century in every series he is due one this series.

>>i like the guy  but there is  no point  him playing at all.
>>time  to bring in a new  middle  order  en bloc

> Like who?

Exactly. Now watch the *** letters scuttle away like roaches in the
light beam.

Cricket is a game of split seconds and decision making. Bopara wasnt out
through any fault of his own in the last innings and Bell needs to be
given time. He has helped England out before and will again.

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:28:22


Quote:

>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:06:58 GMT, Andrew Fox




>>>>>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.
>>>>> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
>>>>> why not Ramps ?

>>>>> Mike Gooding
>>>>> --------------------

>>>> The players in the team were picked for a reason.

>>>> Stick with them. Get behind them. Give them some confidence.

>>>> This baying for *** is ridiculous.

>>>you  must  be  mad,  bopara is a one  day player bell is  rubbish and
>>>colly  has  been totally  worked  out  by  australia

>> Well that is very strange that legends like McGrath and Warne (and Lee
>> and Clark for that matter) could not "work out" Collingwood when he
>> scored 206 at the Adelaide Oval but the current Aus bowlers can?

>> In Cardiff he was the second highest scorer in the first innings and
>> the highest scorer in the second innings, almost single handedly
>> saving the game.

>> At Lords in the second innings he scored a quick 50 to set up the
>> early declaration and set up the win.

>> 3 failures do not make him worthy of dropping - Cook has not passed 32
>> in the last 4 innings but I don't see you suggesting dropping him.

>> Considering that in the last year prior to the Ashes he has scored 135
>> and 61 against SA, 108 against India, 113, 96, 161 and 60no against WI
>> - he has scored a century in every series he is due one this series.

>>>i like the guy  but there is  no point  him playing at all.
>>>time  to bring in a new  middle  order  en bloc

>> Like who?

> Exactly. Now watch the *** letters scuttle away like roaches in the
> light beam.

> Cricket is a game of split seconds and decision making. Bopara wasnt out
> through any fault of his own in the last innings and Bell needs to be
> given time. He has helped England out before and will again.

Forget Bopara's unfortunate second innings dismissal - that's a red herring.
The nailed-on clue as to why he needs to be dropped was his dismissal in the
first innings: ordinary ball which did nothing special, utterly limp shot.

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:34:20


Quote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:06:58 GMT, Andrew Fox




>>>>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.
>>>> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
>>>> why not Ramps ?

>>>> Mike Gooding
>>>> --------------------

>>> The players in the team were picked for a reason.

>>> Stick with them. Get behind them. Give them some confidence.

>>> This baying for *** is ridiculous.

>>you  must  be  mad,  bopara is a one  day player bell is  rubbish and
>>colly  has  been totally  worked  out  by  australia

> Well that is very strange that legends like McGrath and Warne (and Lee
> and Clark for that matter) could not "work out" Collingwood when he
> scored 206 at the Adelaide Oval but the current Aus bowlers can?

I'm not going to join the Collingwood-out brigade - you can't drop him while
Pietersen is absent and Bopara would be the first to go anyway - but citing
the 206 at Adelaide doesn't really prove anything.  Firstly because it was
three years ago, but also because after that he didn't reach 30 again in
seven further innings in the series.  Sounds to me like the Australian
bowlers did rather work him out.

<snip>

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by Andrew Dunfor » Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:36:22


Quote:


>>> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.

>> Well, we keep bringing back other pea hearts like Bell and Harmison,
>> why not Ramps ?

>> Mike Gooding
>> --------------------

> The players in the team were picked for a reason.

Indeed, to fulfil Law 1.1:

"A match is played between two sides, each of eleven players, one of whom
shall be captain."

<snip>

Andrew

 
 
 

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Post by alve » Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:49:28

Quote:

> Not feet-stuck-in-the-mud Robert Key.

I don't care who they pick except one. BOPARA MUST PLAY!
He's been a ***ing goldmine for me.

alvey

 
 
 

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Post by alve » Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:27:06

snip irrrrrelevant

Quote:

> Forget Bopara's unfortunate second innings dismissal - that's a red herring.
> The nailed-on clue as to why he needs to be dropped was his dismissal in the
> first innings: ordinary ball which did nothing special, utterly limp shot.

And that's the mystifying thing about Bopara.

Most batsmen have a weakness somewhere; Hayden battled all his career
against over-reaching for the ball for a cover drive, Punter can be had lbw
with a late in*** (because he falls across too far) and Baby B doesn't
always play down the correct line against off-spinners, however the bowler
can pay a heavy toll if they don't get it right. Otoh, Ravi Bop, and to a
lesser extent, Cook, have their main weakness right in the centre of the
dreaded Corridor of Uncertainty. That region where the batsman is unsure of
whether to play a forward defence or a back defence. It really does make me
wonder how they've actually scored so many fc runs when they have a
significant, *defensive* weakness slap bang in the middle of the box that
the bowler's stock ball should be.

alvey

 
 
 

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Post by Yuk Tan » Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:53:02



Quote:

> And that's the mystifying thing about Bopara.

> Most batsmen have a weakness somewhere; Hayden battled all his
> career against over-reaching for the ball for a cover drive,
> Punter can be had lbw with a late in*** (because he falls
> across too far) and Baby B doesn't always play down the correct
> line against off-spinners, however the bowler can pay a heavy toll
> if they don't get it right. Otoh, Ravi Bop, and to a lesser
> extent, Cook, have their main weakness right in the centre of the
> dreaded Corridor of Uncertainty. That region where the batsman is
> unsure of whether to play a forward defence or a back defence. It
> really does make me wonder how they've actually scored so many fc
> runs when they have a significant, *defensive* weakness slap bang
> in the middle of the box that the bowler's stock ball should be.

Isn't the corridor of uncertainty that line just outside offstump where
one is uncertain whether to play or not? What you're describing is the
"two man's land", as (mis)coined by Ken Barrington.

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Cheers, ymt.

 
 
 

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Post by Julia » Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:17:25

Quote:



>> And that's the mystifying thing about Bopara.

>> Most batsmen have a weakness somewhere; Hayden battled all his
>> career against over-reaching for the ball for a cover drive,
>> Punter can be had lbw with a late in*** (because he falls
>> across too far) and Baby B doesn't always play down the correct
>> line against off-spinners, however the bowler can pay a heavy toll
>> if they don't get it right. Otoh, Ravi Bop, and to a lesser
>> extent, Cook, have their main weakness right in the centre of the
>> dreaded Corridor of Uncertainty. That region where the batsman is
>> unsure of whether to play a forward defence or a back defence. It
>> really does make me wonder how they've actually scored so many fc
>> runs when they have a significant, *defensive* weakness slap bang
>> in the middle of the box that the bowler's stock ball should be.

> Isn't the corridor of uncertainty that line just outside offstump where
> one is uncertain whether to play or not? What you're describing is the
> "two man's land", as (mis)coined by Ken Barrington.

Yes, at least as far as I can make out (he's beginning to lose the plot)
Boycott's "Corridor of Uncertainty" is pre***ly
a matter of line rather than length.