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by **virenpratapsin** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:33:27

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/482318.cms

Now, nothing wrong in making statements, but for once can Hayden first
learn to play cricket properly and the way it has to be played at an
international level..The guy cant even differentaite between the way
he has scooped the ball back to the bowler or hit iton the ground...as
a batsman, he should be the best judge as to whether he has scoped it
or not, but the guy keeps nooding his head every time the umpire gives
him out(of course he is out clearly)..
there are 3 instances I have seen(there could be more, the way he
triesto bully around the opposition and the umpires) where he has
scooped the ball back to the bowler..

1>Once in the 2002Ashes series...the bowler was Ashley Giles and he
had scooped it...and not ready to leave...Kurtzen had togive himout

2>Once in India he did that and there the same..he was just standing
his ground..dontrecallwho the bowler was..

3>Now, in the first final against Balaji...and kept on nodding his
head and suggesting he had hit it on the ground...

Now, the irony is that his partner Gilchrist is on the move
tocallhimself the "best sportspirit around"(ofcourse, thats keeping in
mind the excessive sledging he did to Dravid in the testmatches)and
Hayden is the opposite...

Its alright to call other batsman intimidated, but first learn to
playcricket the way it is...then, your statements will have some
value.

by **Sanjay Kuma** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 01:58:06

When everything is going right with you, one can give all kinds of
statments.
I get the impression that the Indians are tired. They have been playing
for a long time. Also the VB series has too many ODI matches. To add to
the problems, the indian bowling has not been very good. Gilly,Hayden
and Ponting have scored 6 plus an over in the first 15 overs. If these
three were to be dismissed quickly, then it would be a different game.

Quote:

> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/482318.cms

> Now, nothing wrong in making statements, but for once can Hayden first
> learn to play cricket properly and the way it has to be played at an
> international level..The guy cant even differentaite between the way
> he has scooped the ball back to the bowler or hit iton the ground...as
> a batsman, he should be the best judge as to whether he has scoped it
> or not, but the guy keeps nooding his head every time the umpire gives
> him out(of course he is out clearly)..
> there are 3 instances I have seen(there could be more, the way he
> triesto bully around the opposition and the umpires) where he has
> scooped the ball back to the bowler..

> 1>Once in the 2002Ashes series...the bowler was Ashley Giles and he
> had scooped it...and not ready to leave...Kurtzen had togive himout

> 2>Once in India he did that and there the same..he was just standing
> his ground..dontrecallwho the bowler was..

> 3>Now, in the first final against Balaji...and kept on nodding his
> head and suggesting he had hit it on the ground...

> Now, the irony is that his partner Gilchrist is on the move
> tocallhimself the "best sportspirit around"(ofcourse, thats keeping in
> mind the excessive sledging he did to Dravid in the testmatches)and
> Hayden is the opposite...

> Its alright to call other batsman intimidated, but first learn to
> playcricket the way it is...then, your statements will have some
> value.

by **Anonymou** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 03:22:50

If Hayden doesn't know how to play cricket and is still the best batsman in
the world then he must be awfully good. The fact is that the Indians have
no answers for batsmen like Hayden, who intimidate Indian bowlers and
fielders, or for fast bowlers who intimidate Indian batsboys.

by **Ben Gusse** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 03:22:50

Quote:

> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/482318.cms

> Now, nothing wrong in making statements, but for once can Hayden first
> learn to play cricket properly and the way it has to be played at an
> international level..The guy cant even differentaite between the way
> he has scooped the ball back to the bowler or hit iton the ground...as
> a batsman, he should be the best judge as to whether he has scoped it
> or not, but the guy keeps nooding his head every time the umpire gives
> him out(of course he is out clearly)..
> there are 3 instances I have seen(there could be more, the way he
> triesto bully around the opposition and the umpires) where he has
> scooped the ball back to the bowler..

> 1>Once in the 2002Ashes series...the bowler was Ashley Giles and he
> had scooped it...and not ready to leave...Kurtzen had togive himout

> 2>Once in India he did that and there the same..he was just standing
> his ground..dontrecallwho the bowler was..

> 3>Now, in the first final against Balaji...and kept on nodding his
> head and suggesting he had hit it on the ground...

> Now, the irony is that his partner Gilchrist is on the move
> tocallhimself the "best sportspirit around"(ofcourse, thats keeping in
> mind the excessive sledging he did to Dravid in the testmatches)and
> Hayden is the opposite...

> Its alright to call other batsman intimidated, but first learn to
> playcricket the way it is...then, your statements will have some
> value.

Obviously these statements invalidate the fact that he is probably the best
opener in the world.

Regards,
Ben.

by **Anonymou** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 03:29:29

The Indian fear of pace is a not a new one and has nothing to do with being
tired. Whether they win or lose the fact is that pace and bounce rattles
most Indians since they don't have much experience against it as India does
not have any pace bowlers.

--

Quote:

> When everything is going right with you, one can give all kinds of
> statments.
> I get the impression that the Indians are tired. They have been playing
> for a long time. Also the VB series has too many ODI matches. To add to
> the problems, the indian bowling has not been very good. Gilly,Hayden
> and Ponting have scored 6 plus an over in the first 15 overs. If these
> three were to be dismissed quickly, then it would be a different game.

by **Logan Modahal** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:06:08

Wasn't Hayden the joker who told that VVS Laxman will be a failure/can't
play short pitched ball in Aus. prior to the tour. I am looking forward
for the tour of SL where Ricky (who gets atleast one gift of notout
decision from umpires every innings before scoring 20) Pinting goes back
to his binary scores.

These bunch of Oz's are morons.

Quote:

> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/482318.cms

> Now, nothing wrong in making statements, but for once can Hayden first
> learn to play cricket properly and the way it has to be played at an
> international level..The guy cant even differentaite between the way
> he has scooped the ball back to the bowler or hit iton the ground...as
> a batsman, he should be the best judge as to whether he has scoped it
> or not, but the guy keeps nooding his head every time the umpire gives
> him out(of course he is out clearly)..
> there are 3 instances I have seen(there could be more, the way he
> triesto bully around the opposition and the umpires) where he has
> scooped the ball back to the bowler..

> 1>Once in the 2002Ashes series...the bowler was Ashley Giles and he
> had scooped it...and not ready to leave...Kurtzen had togive himout

> 2>Once in India he did that and there the same..he was just standing
> his ground..dontrecallwho the bowler was..

> 3>Now, in the first final against Balaji...and kept on nodding his
> head and suggesting he had hit it on the ground...

> Now, the irony is that his partner Gilchrist is on the move
> tocallhimself the "best sportspirit around"(ofcourse, thats keeping in
> mind the excessive sledging he did to Dravid in the testmatches)and
> Hayden is the opposite...

> Its alright to call other batsman intimidated, but first learn to
> playcricket the way it is...then, your statements will have some
> value.

by **Sanjay Kuma** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:45:18

Even the aussies were 3 down for some 20 runs in Perth. Gilly and
Simonds played quite well. If the indians had some luck (Laxam dropped
gilly), the aussies would have been 70/5. No need to talk about ZIM.
Nobody was spared on the WACA.

Playing for a long time does make a difference, but for prof players
it should not be an excuse.

Quote:

> The Indian fear of pace is a not a new one and has nothing to do with being
> tired. Whether they win or lose the fact is that pace and bounce rattles
> most Indians since they don't have much experience against it as India does
> not have any pace bowlers.

> --

>>When everything is going right with you, one can give all kinds of
>>statments.
>>I get the impression that the Indians are tired. They have been playing
>>for a long time. Also the VB series has too many ODI matches. To add to
>>the problems, the indian bowling has not been very good. Gilly,Hayden
>>and Ponting have scored 6 plus an over in the first 15 overs. If these
>>three were to be dismissed quickly, then it would be a different game.

by **Loony Tune** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:50:14

Quote:

> When everything is going right with you, one can give all kinds of
> statments.
> I get the impression that the Indians are tired. They have been playing
> for a long time. Also the VB series has too many ODI matches. To add to
> the problems, the indian bowling has not been very good. Gilly,Hayden
> and Ponting have scored 6 plus an over in the first 15 overs. If these
> three were to be dismissed quickly, then it would be a different game.

FWIW, the aussies too have played as long as the Indians. If the Indians are
tired, that reflects on their poor physical fitness for which they and they
themselves are to blame.

Let's quit whinging and agree that the Aussies have India sorted out in the
odos

lt

by **Anonymou** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 05:28:18

The Aussies may not score well against pace, although most seem to prefer
it, but they don't seem to be scared of it either. I am not sure but I
think Dravid doesn't appear to be scared of it either. Not sure about
Laxman. SRT is in-between. Sehwag, Ganguly, Yuvraj, Agarkar appear quite
scared.

--

Quote:

> Even the aussies were 3 down for some 20 runs in Perth. Gilly and
> Simonds played quite well. If the indians had some luck (Laxam dropped
> gilly), the aussies would have been 70/5. No need to talk about ZIM.
> Nobody was spared on the WACA.

> Playing for a long time does make a difference, but for prof players
> it should not be an excuse.

by **The Wo** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 07:14:50

Quote:

> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/482318.cms

> Now, the irony is that his partner Gilchrist is on the move
> tocallhimself the "best sportspirit around"(ofcourse, thats keeping in
> mind the excessive sledging he did to Dravid in the testmatches)

ROTFL

Quote:

> Its alright to call other batsman intimidated, but first learn to
> playcricket the way it is...then, your statements will have some
> value.

Quite right - the correct way to play cricket is to claim bumped catches and
tamper with the ball.

by **Mad Hamis** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 07:40:21

Quote:

>When everything is going right with you, one can give all kinds of
>statments.
>I get the impression that the Indians are tired. They have been playing
>for a long time. Also the VB series has too many ODI matches. To add to
>the problems, the indian bowling has not been very good. Gilly,Hayden
>and Ponting have scored 6 plus an over in the first 15 overs. If these
>three were to be dismissed quickly, then it would be a different game.

Australia has been playing for just as long.
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

Mad Hamish
Hamish Laws

by **virenpratapsin** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 07:47:53

Quote:

> If Hayden doesn't know how to play cricket and is still the best batsman in
> the world then he must be awfully good. The fact is that the Indians have
> no answers for batsmen like Hayden, who intimidate Indian bowlers and
> fielders, or for fast bowlers who intimidate Indian batsboys.

Once again... Indian bowling is something that "intimidates"
batsmen..doesnt it?? the likes of Lou Vincent have clobbered Indian
bowling just a season ago..let alone Nathan Astle or Fleming...

having an great average against India doesnt mean squat...I can tell
you several batsman aroundthe worldwho areon the verge of getting
dropped andplay against India and play the series of their career...

nobody questioning, Hayden's ability...just questioning his "penchant"
at taking cheap shots at Indians(and oppositon)

even Bradman didnt doubt Tendulkar, but Hayden thinks Sachin is
intimidated ? what say ?

by **alve** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:04:06

Quote:

> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/482318.cms

Yeah, Hayden really has no right to comment.

A Test batting average of 83 & an odo average of 51 against India
totally devalues his comments on them.

Goose.

alvey

by **Anonymou** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:38:01

Quote:

> having an great average against India doesnt mean squat

Check his average against other teams.

by **Vinay Deolalik** » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:37:38

Quote:

> FWIW, the aussies too have played as long as the Indians. If the Indians are
> tired, that reflects on their poor physical fitness for which they and they
> themselves are to blame.
> lt

I would tend to agree with the point you make. If you watch Indian
sport, you often are fed the reason that "in the end we were just
tired" as if the opposition was resting all this time. I have heard it
time and again in hockey, especially when we give up half time leads
to lose in the dying minutes. But the fact of the matter is that the
physical and mental endurance to give off your best till the end of
the game/series is a big part of the sport. Great teams are those who
can provide that final surge and win when all others are tired.
Indeed, that is when the real test of your character as a sportsman
comes into the picture. WE simply cannot give that as an excuse.

Indeed, in some sports, especially middle and long distance track
events, the difference between the champion and the also ran is *only*
in the last few moments. Cricket is not quite as dramatic, but the
concept is the same. In a long series, the one who has the most mental
fortitude wins in the end. If India are not physically fit or mentally
strong (and both these are very related IMO)
then that is their problem and they must rectify it. Surely it cannot
provide us with an excuse for poor performance at the end of a tour.

Vinay

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