Post loss Indian team analysis

Post loss Indian team analysis

Post by Ranjan Bhag » Sun, 24 Apr 1994 01:12:47


Now that India has once again managed to lose a game that they should have
won...after all chasing 250 on that dead Sharjah track with all their
batting might should not have been too tough.....But India just can't
get the monkey off their back at Sharjah...and lose to Pakistan once
again. Congrats to Pakistan and now let's focus on the Indian team
player by player:
1. SRT: Had two good knocks but IMO should not open for India esp. with
Prabhakar being back in action. I feel SRT tends to chance his arm a
little too much trying to hit over the top in the first 15 and twice
now in successive innings has got out playing attcking shots in the air
and being caught. I think SRT being our best bat should be #3.
2. Ahzar: Flopped against Pakistan......and his failure today was a big
reason for India's debacle. Should stick to #4 but needs to shuffle his
bowlers around a little better in ODI's. Although IMO he did OK in the
final as far as rotating the bowlers.
3. Siddhu: Had a good tournamnent and should open on a regular basis.
4. Kambli: Showed good temperament in the final and although has been
successful at #3 in the past.....he should continue at #5.
5. Jadeja: Flopped today..trying to play a SRT shot to Akram. But
nevertheless makes our ODI team based on his utlity.....However with
Prabhakar back it's unsure if I will play him esp. if Kapil also makes
the team instead of Prasad in the ODI team. But based on his gutsy
performances, he should be persisted with at least in the 14.
6. Bedede: Finally got a chance to be a hero today...and almost became
one. His sixes were sweet and I would persist with him at #6 at least in
the ODI team as he is promising.
7. Mongia: Played like a real goof ball today...but I think for now
based on his pretty consistent keeping and reasonable ability to bat, he
should stick around for a while.
8. Kumble: Our strike bowler often got the stick but then these are
Sharjah pitches......There is no question about his ability to make
the team.
9. Chauhan: Very impressive bowling.....I like the way he varies his
line and length in a ODI.......Good team member.
10. Srinath: Vastly improved..should cut down on overstepping at
critical times....but from now on he should be a permanent member
of the team,,,even with Prabhakar and Kapil back.
11. Prasad: Good effort ...he has the physical ability and will improve.
He should at least be in the 14 or 16.
12. Bhupinder: Sharjah was a nightmare...but the selectors should not
unceremoniously dump him forever. He will be dropped but if he performs
exceptionally well at the domestic level then maybe he can get another
chance on some more helpful pitches and conditions.
13. Raju: Did not see him at all but I don't think he goes anywhere at
least as far as tests are concerned.
14. Ankola: I will prefer Prasad over Ankola in my 14 although to be
fair to Ankola the selectors ought to keep him in mind.

Now based on the fact that Prabhakar, Kapil, Manjrekar are fit and
available for the WI series. Here are my teams:

14 for ODI
Azza, SRT, Siddhu, Jadeja, Kapil, Kambli, Bedede, MOngia, Kumble, Raju,
Chauhan, Srinath, Prabhakar, Prasad

14 for tests
Basically for tests I'll substitute Kapil with Manjrekar. The reason
being that with Srinath and Prabhakar opening bowling and with all 3
spinners (since we play WI at home)...there is no room for Kapil Dev in
the Indian test team. However Kapil is a must for ODI's with his baility
ability to bowl tight, slog as well as provide stability so that our
tail does not start at #8.

The only reason I chose Manjrekar instead of Amre is that against the
powerful WI bowling attack.....Manjrekar would technically bring
stability if he is chosen over Bedede at #6. Plus Manjrekar is also
comfortable at #3.

If Ravi Shastri demonstrates an ability to bowl consistently, he could
also be a good ODI candidate because I still think that in certain
scenarios he could make a contribution with his ability to face fast
bowling and also left arm spin bowling.

Even though WI will play on spinning tracks..they have enough fire power
to bother even the best of batsmen on these pitches and hence Shastri
could make a case even though it may not be a popular choice.

And I would really like to see a no-nonsense manager like Gavaskar take
over...even though Wadekar's done a great job, I think Gavsakar's a
shrewd tactician and can give India that extra will to win at times when
they need it.

 
 
 

Post loss Indian team analysis

Post by Spaceman Spif » Tue, 26 Apr 1994 04:09:44


says:
Quote:

>12. Bhupinder: Sharjah was a nightmare...but the selectors should not
>unceremoniously dump him forever. He will be dropped but if he performs
>exceptionally well at the domestic level then maybe he can get another
>chance on some more helpful pitches and conditions.

i would be interested in knowing what positives you saw in bhupinder's
bowling which makes him a candidate for recall to the side. his action
sucks, he has no pace, and he doesn't get any discernable movement of the
ball. hell, why not recall madan lal?

Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

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Post loss Indian team analysis

Post by Shivanand Bhajek » Tue, 26 Apr 1994 08:38:43

        Bhooopinder stuff deleted...

Quote:
>ball. hell, why not recall madan lal?

        Madan Lal was a good bowler. He has been a major contributor
        to some of India's victories in the past.

        (a) Against WI playing under Pataudi 1974/75(?)
        (b) Against Fletcher's England at B'bay 1981(?).

        He was the imp. member of India WCup 83 squad. IMO he should
        have been the Man of the finals...
--
  shivanand

 
 
 

Post loss Indian team analysis

Post by Spaceman Spif » Tue, 26 Apr 1994 17:12:37


Bhajekar) says:
Quote:

>>ball. hell, why not recall madan lal?

>        Madan Lal was a good bowler. He has been a major contributor
>        to some of India's victories in the past.

yes, he did have some value in ODI matches. his bowling was just innocuous
enough for the batsmen to take chances and get out. as a test match bowler
he was a joke. what can you say about an *opening bowler* who plays 40 odd
tests for 67 wickets? a man who goes 7(8?) consecutive tests without taking
a single wicket?

Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

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Been walking all morning
went walking all night
I can't see much difference
between the dark and light

 
 
 

Post loss Indian team analysis

Post by Shamim Naq » Wed, 27 Apr 1994 05:15:24


|> says:
|> >
|> >12. Bhupinder: Sharjah was a nightmare...but the selectors should not
|> >unceremoniously dump him forever. He will be dropped but if he performs
|> >exceptionally well at the domestic level then maybe he can get another
|> >chance on some more helpful pitches and conditions.
|> >
|> i would be interested in knowing what positives you saw in bhupinder's
|> bowling which makes him a candidate for recall to the side. his action
|> sucks, he has no pace, and he doesn't get any discernable movement of the
|> ball. hell, why not recall madan lal?
|>

Nope, won't work. Madan Lal is coach of the UAE team and, to
paraphrase an RSC nettor, his first loyalties are with UAE. For all we
know, he probably drove straight to Dubai after the Australasia final.

--

Shamim

 
 
 

Post loss Indian team analysis

Post by Murali Iyer, Quad/Graphi » Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:21:18

Quote:


>|> i would be interested in knowing what positives you saw in bhupinder's
>|> bowling which makes him a candidate for recall to the side. his action
>|> sucks, he has no pace, and he doesn't get any discernable movement of the
>|> ball. hell, why not recall madan lal?
>|>

>Nope, won't work. Madan Lal is coach of the UAE team and, to
>paraphrase an RSC nettor, his first loyalties are with UAE. For all we
>know, he probably drove straight to Dubai after the Australasia final.

Well, my "Importer and Distributor" of The Sportstar was kind enough to send
three issues of the magazine in one envelope last week. I am yet to read
thorugh them all, but did catch an interview with Madan Lal after UAE's win
the ICC trophy.

Madan Lal has expressed his disappointment at not being offered the coaching
assignment by DDCA (Delhi and Districts Cricket Assn.). He practically begged
for the job, waited for a year but nothing came about. Madan Lal in the
meantime was coaching the Under-19 team which played against Australian U-19
team (3-Test series level at 1-1). However, when the UAE job was offered just
two months beofre the ICC trophy began, Madan gave up the U-19 job and went
West to UAE. He says, even now he is ready to rush back to Delhi if DDCA offers
the job he would love to take up - coach of Delhi's Ranji team. The pathetic
performances of his former team seem to be hurting him badly.

Just thought I'll share this tidbit with you folks. Madan was felicitated for
the wonderful job he has done of building the UAE team from bits and pieces
cricketers. Now, why does that ring a bell? :-) Oh, yeah. India's sole WC
championship came when she played with a bunch of bits and pieces players!! :-)

Quote:

>Shamim

Regards,

-Murali

 
 
 

Post loss Indian team analysis

Post by Chris Stri » Thu, 28 Apr 1994 06:29:15

|>
|> Stay cool,
|> Spaceman Spiff
|>
|> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head.
|> Listen to the river sing sweet songs to rock my soul.

You really go for the drugged out ones don't you!

:)

Stay even....cooler....man

Chris

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