Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by Peter Watkin » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Hmmm.  I just watched a great game of cricket.  Both sides had heroes
and villains aplenty.  (Can Daryl Lehmann hit the side of a barn?  Can
Paul Reiffel catch away from the MCG?)  But I can't help wondering about
Steve Waugh's bowling options.  In South Africa's innings, Gibbs and
Kirsten were having no trouble playing the pace bowlers.  Glenn McGrath
(one of the world's best bowlers) couldn't find a troubling length.
Then Shane Warne comes on and reminds us why he is a great bowler.
Shit!  It looks like this wicket is taking fast, bouncy spin.  Then
Steve Waugh gives "Kallis and Rhodes" a few overs of nice gentle "Moody
& Waugh M." to get their eyes in.  Next thing you know, they're in the
high forties and South Africa are back in the match.

Somehow I feel that Mark Taylor would have tried a couple of overs of
Michael Bevan.  He may have trouble landing it on a tarpaulin, but when
he gets it right, his leggie and wrong'un are magic.

Any opinions :)

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Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by Karthik Aghor » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00

If everything you're saying is right, you're in trouble vs Pakistan. Those
guys can play Warne in their sleep.  If McGrath doesn't bowl his customary
great stuff to rattle the top-order a bit, it'll be a long day for you
Ozzies.  But then Pak can destroy themselves as well as (or better than)
you can destroy them!

Good luck
Ragamuffin

: Hmmm.  I just watched a great game of cricket.  Both sides had heroes
: and villains aplenty.  (Can Daryl Lehmann hit the side of a barn?  Can
: Paul Reiffel catch away from the MCG?)  But I can't help wondering about
: Steve Waugh's bowling options.  In South Africa's innings, Gibbs and
: Kirsten were having no trouble playing the pace bowlers.  Glenn McGrath
: (one of the world's best bowlers) couldn't find a troubling length.
: Then Shane Warne comes on and reminds us why he is a great bowler.
: Shit!  It looks like this wicket is taking fast, bouncy spin.  Then
: Steve Waugh gives "Kallis and Rhodes" a few overs of nice gentle "Moody
: & Waugh M." to get their eyes in.  Next thing you know, they're in the
: high forties and South Africa are back in the match.

: Somehow I feel that Mark Taylor would have tried a couple of overs of
: Michael Bevan.  He may have trouble landing it on a tarpaulin, but when
: he gets it right, his leggie and wrong'un are magic.

: Any opinions :)

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Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by Yossaria » Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> Hmmm.  I just watched a great game of cricket.  Both sides had heroes
> and villains aplenty.  (Can Daryl Lehmann hit the side of a barn?  Can
> Paul Reiffel catch away from the MCG?)  But I can't help wondering about
> Steve Waugh's bowling options.  In South Africa's innings, Gibbs and
> Kirsten were having no trouble playing the pace bowlers.  Glenn McGrath
> (one of the world's best bowlers) couldn't find a troubling length.
> Then Shane Warne comes on and reminds us why he is a great bowler.
> Shit!  It looks like this wicket is taking fast, bouncy spin.  Then
> Steve Waugh gives "Kallis and Rhodes" a few overs of nice gentle "Moody
> & Waugh M." to get their eyes in.  Next thing you know, they're in the
> high forties and South Africa are back in the match.

> Somehow I feel that Mark Taylor would have tried a couple of overs of
> Michael Bevan.  He may have trouble landing it on a tarpaulin, but when
> he gets it right, his leggie and wrong'un are magic.

I think bowling Mark Waugh was OK but he should have gone for Bevan instead
of Moody. He could easily have picked up a couple of wickets. I was ready
to start a *** mob when Reiffel dropped that catch and you are spot on
about Lehman. It would help if he got some runs once in a while too.

 
 
 

Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by James Stewar » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00

You do realise that a 5th bowler needed to bowl 10? You do know that. It
was either bowl them when the run rate was creeping along at 2.00 or
bowl them towards the end of the innings which would have been suicide.

Waugh had no option and he had to get rid of the tenth bowler quick, ie
the mWaugh and Moody combo.  Plus MWaugh ate up some of Reiffels overs

Quote:

> Hmmm.  I just watched a great game of cricket.  Both sides had heroes
> and villains aplenty.  (Can Daryl Lehmann hit the side of a barn?  Can
> Paul Reiffel catch away from the MCG?)  But I can't help wondering about
> Steve Waugh's bowling options.  In South Africa's innings, Gibbs and
> Kirsten were having no trouble playing the pace bowlers.  Glenn McGrath
> (one of the world's best bowlers) couldn't find a troubling length.
> Then Shane Warne comes on and reminds us why he is a great bowler.
> Shit!  It looks like this wicket is taking fast, bouncy spin.  Then
> Steve Waugh gives "Kallis and Rhodes" a few overs of nice gentle "Moody
> & Waugh M." to get their eyes in.  Next thing you know, they're in the
> high forties and South Africa are back in the match.

> Somehow I feel that Mark Taylor would have tried a couple of overs of
> Michael Bevan.  He may have trouble landing it on a tarpaulin, but when
> he gets it right, his leggie and wrong'un are magic.

> Any opinions :)

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Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by -BEN » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>You do realise that a 5th bowler needed to bowl 10? You do know that.
>It was either bowl them when the run rate was creeping along at 2.00 or
>bowl them towards the end of the innings which would have been suicide.

>Waugh had no option and he had to get rid of the tenth bowler quick,

I agree 100%.  However he did leave M Waugh on too long.  As soon as the
10 overs were up (between MW & TM), I would've taken them both off.

-BEN

 
 
 

Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by Will Sutto » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Hmmm.  I just watched a great game of cricket.  Both sides had heroes
> and villains aplenty.  (Can Daryl Lehmann hit the side of a barn?  Can
> Paul Reiffel catch away from the MCG?)  But I can't help wondering about
> Steve Waugh's bowling options.  In South Africa's innings, Gibbs and
> Kirsten were having no trouble playing the pace bowlers.  Glenn McGrath
> (one of the world's best bowlers) couldn't find a troubling length.
> Then Shane Warne comes on and reminds us why he is a great bowler.
> Shit!  It looks like this wicket is taking fast, bouncy spin.  Then
> Steve Waugh gives "Kallis and Rhodes" a few overs of nice gentle "Moody
> & Waugh M." to get their eyes in.  Next thing you know, they're in the
> high forties and South Africa are back in the match.

> Somehow I feel that Mark Taylor would have tried a couple of overs of
> Michael Bevan.  He may have trouble landing it on a tarpaulin, but when
> he gets it right, his leggie and wrong'un are magic.

> Any opinions :)

Bevans bowling has reached a stage where it is shocking. I can just imagine
Bevan bowling long hops...full tosses....wides and letting Sth Africa of the hook.

And it was best that he get his "5th" bowler out of the way why the Africans were in a
defensive mind set. I think Steve did a good job .

BTW....what if Bevan had bowled a couple of overs and was smashed , I could
imagine the people calling for Waughs head........ definitely a case of been damned if
you do and damned if you dont

 
 
 

Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by Ashe » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:25:03 +1000, Peter Watkins

Quote:

>Hmmm.  I just watched a great game of cricket.  Both sides had heroes
>and villains aplenty.  (Can Daryl Lehmann hit the side of a barn?  Can
>Paul Reiffel catch away from the MCG?)  But I can't help wondering about
>Steve Waugh's bowling options.  In South Africa's innings, Gibbs and
>Kirsten were having no trouble playing the pace bowlers.  Glenn McGrath
>(one of the world's best bowlers) couldn't find a troubling length.
>Then Shane Warne comes on and reminds us why he is a great bowler.
>Shit!  It looks like this wicket is taking fast, bouncy spin.  Then
>Steve Waugh gives "Kallis and Rhodes" a few overs of nice gentle "Moody
>& Waugh M." to get their eyes in.  Next thing you know, they're in the
>high forties and South Africa are back in the match.

I thought he captained the side the best I've ever seen to date.
I was a critic of S Waugh but after that performance in the semi final
I just thought maybe he has finally learnt from the errors of the
past.

I was a bit surprised Moody didn't bowl off spin as in the
Commonwealth Games. Moody also bowls off spin for WA
on the odd ocassion.

In any case I thought S Waugh did a fantastic job at captaining
the side in the semi finals. S Waugh in the lead up matches
did not do the right feild settings in my opinion but now I think
he's getting quite a bit better at deciding when to bowl his bowlers
and how to set feilds. I think he often over attacked in the earlier
games where restricting the flow of runs often gets more wickets.

Quote:
>Somehow I feel that Mark Taylor would have tried a couple of overs of
>Michael Bevan.  He may have trouble landing it on a tarpaulin, but when
>he gets it right, his leggie and wrong'un are magic.

Bevan bowls to many four balls where he bowls to short and
gets thrashed. And with only 213 to defend could not risk Bevan.
 
 
 

Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by Mac Attac » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> I was a bit surprised Moody didn't bowl off spin as in the
> Commonwealth Games. Moody also bowls off spin for WA
> on the odd ocassion.

If the selectors had that in mind they would've chosen Miller.

Mac

 
 
 

Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by Ashe » Sun, 20 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

>> I was a bit surprised Moody didn't bowl off spin as in the
>> Commonwealth Games. Moody also bowls off spin for WA
>> on the odd ocassion.

>If the selectors had that in mind they would've chosen Miller.

Yes but can only take 15 to the WC as you know.
Moody mainly bowls medium pace but can bowl off
spin if required.
 
 
 

Steve Waugh's captaincy - handling of bowlers suspect?

Post by Opti » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> If everything you're saying is right, you're in trouble vs Pakistan. Those
> guys can play Warne in their sleep.

hehe maybe they should have taken a nap instead of facing him then!

Regards,

A ***y gloating Aussie (It does feel good to win)


Quote:

> If everything you're saying is right, you're in trouble vs Pakistan. Those
> guys can play Warne in their sleep.  If McGrath doesn't bowl his customary
> great stuff to rattle the top-order a bit, it'll be a long day for you
> Ozzies.  But then Pak can destroy themselves as well as (or better than)
> you can destroy them!

> Good luck
> Ragamuffin


> : Hmmm.  I just watched a great game of cricket.  Both sides had heroes
> : and villains aplenty.  (Can Daryl Lehmann hit the side of a barn?  Can
> : Paul Reiffel catch away from the MCG?)  But I can't help wondering about
> : Steve Waugh's bowling options.  In South Africa's innings, Gibbs and
> : Kirsten were having no trouble playing the pace bowlers.  Glenn McGrath
> : (one of the world's best bowlers) couldn't find a troubling length.
> : Then Shane Warne comes on and reminds us why he is a great bowler.
> : Shit!  It looks like this wicket is taking fast, bouncy spin.  Then
> : Steve Waugh gives "Kallis and Rhodes" a few overs of nice gentle "Moody
> : & Waugh M." to get their eyes in.  Next thing you know, they're in the
> : high forties and South Africa are back in the match.

> : Somehow I feel that Mark Taylor would have tried a couple of overs of
> : Michael Bevan.  He may have trouble landing it on a tarpaulin, but when
> : he gets it right, his leggie and wrong'un are magic.

> : Any opinions :)

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