Curtly : Fast medium?

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by Mark Bostoc » Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Notice how the caption writers at Channel 9 have Curtly Ambrose
as a right arm fast medium bowler, not right arm fast. I wouldn't
consider Curtly to be the same same speed as Paul Reiffel, even in his
form slump.

 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by Matthew Hob » Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Notice how the caption writers at Channel 9 have Curtly Ambrose
>as a right arm fast medium bowler, not right arm fast. I wouldn't
>consider Curtly to be the same same speed as Paul Reiffel, even in his
>form slump.

I too noticed this. Doesn't seem that long ago since Curtly was
terrorizing the likes of Dean Jones with his pace. I don't think he has
slowed down enough to be classed as "fast-medium".

 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by Blair Trew » Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>>Notice how the caption writers at Channel 9 have Curtly Ambrose
>>as a right arm fast medium bowler, not right arm fast. I wouldn't
>>consider Curtly to be the same same speed as Paul Reiffel, even in his
>>form slump.

>I too noticed this. Doesn't seem that long ago since Curtly was
>terrorizing the likes of Dean Jones with his pace. I don't think he has
>slowed down enough to be classed as "fast-medium".

The same people described Malcolm Marshall at his peak as 'fast-medium',
so I'm not sure exactly what one has to do to be called 'fast'.

Blair Trewin

 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by Colin Lo » Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:00:00




: >
: >>Notice how the caption writers at Channel 9 have Curtly Ambrose
: >>as a right arm fast medium bowler, not right arm fast. I wouldn't
: >>consider Curtly to be the same same speed as Paul Reiffel, even in his
: >>form slump.
: >
: >I too noticed this. Doesn't seem that long ago since Curtly was
: >terrorizing the likes of Dean Jones with his pace. I don't think he has
: >slowed down enough to be classed as "fast-medium".
: The same people described Malcolm Marshall at his peak as 'fast-medium',
: so I'm not sure exactly what one has to do to be called 'fast'.

Craig McDermott is classed as fast-medium as well. I have no idea how they
do the classifications. Someone posted the McDermott was timed bowling as
fast as Donald (classed Fast, and rightly so). Perhaps they feel Curtly
can't produce that really quick ball anymore.

Colin

 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by Joshua Saunder » Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Quote:



>>>Notice how the caption writers at Channel 9 have Curtly Ambrose
>>>as a right arm fast medium bowler, not right arm fast. I wouldn't
>>>consider Curtly to be the same same speed as Paul Reiffel, even in his
>>>form slump.

>>I too noticed this. Doesn't seem that long ago since Curtly was
>>terrorizing the likes of Dean Jones with his pace. I don't think he has
>>slowed down enough to be classed as "fast-medium".

Well then, WTF would they call the likes of Akram and McGrath who ARE
clearly faster? I mean if you call Ambrose "fast", then all 4 WI pacemen
are "fast", along with McGrath, Gillespie, Kasprowicz, Fleming, Wasim
Akram, Waqar Younis, etc.

Dennis Lillee in his dotage became a clever fast-medium bowler. Ambrose is
doing the same thing, except for the clever bit. And I don't remember
anyone getting hot under the collar when Channel 9 started referring to
Lillee as "fast-medium" - around 82/3 IIRC. And nor should they have,
because he was (Rackemann and Lawson clearly faster in those days). As is
Ambrose now.

Josh

 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by mn.. » Thu, 19 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Quote:




>>>>Notice how the caption writers at Channel 9 have Curtly Ambrose
>>>>as a right arm fast medium bowler, not right arm fast. I wouldn't
>>>>consider Curtly to be the same same speed as Paul Reiffel, even in his
>>>>form slump.

>>>I too noticed this. Doesn't seem that long ago since Curtly was
>>>terrorizing the likes of Dean Jones with his pace. I don't think he has
>>>slowed down enough to be classed as "fast-medium".

> Well then, WTF would they call the likes of Akram and McGrath who ARE
> clearly faster? I mean if you call Ambrose "fast", then all 4 WI pacemen
> are "fast", along with McGrath, Gillespie, Kasprowicz, Fleming, Wasim
> Akram, Waqar Younis, etc.

McGraith faster than Curtly, you've got to be joking, when he came to New
Zealand not so long ago, McGraith could not even bowl faster than Danny
Morrison, let along Curtly, Akram used to be a fast bowler, I think he slowed
down now, sh he can be called a 'fast-meidum', I believe the bowlers that can
be termed 'fast bowler' currently are: Waqar Younis. Allan Donald and Curtly
Ambrose, not sure about Ian Bishop.  

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Quote:
> Dennis Lillee in his dotage became a clever fast-medium bowler. Ambrose is
> doing the same thing, except for the clever bit. And I don't remember
> anyone getting hot under the collar when Channel 9 started referring to
> Lillee as "fast-medium" - around 82/3 IIRC. And nor should they have,
> because he was (Rackemann and Lawson clearly faster in those days). As is
> Ambrose now.

> Josh

 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by Michael Cull » Thu, 19 Dec 1996 04:00:00


[snips]

Quote:
>McGraith faster than Curtly, you've got to be joking,

He's not joking. IMHO, McGrath is *clearly* faster than Ambrose at the
moment.

cheers,

Mic. (http://www.iap.net.au/~tiger/)
Cross Purposes Studios (Web & Graphic Design)

Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by <R.J.R.. » Sun, 22 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Quote:



> >>>Notice how the caption writers at Channel 9 have Curtly Ambrose
> >>>as a right arm fast medium bowler, not right arm fast. I wouldn't
> >>>consider Curtly to be the same same speed as Paul Reiffel, even in his
> >>>form slump.

> >>I too noticed this. Doesn't seem that long ago since Curtly was
> >>terrorizing the likes of Dean Jones with his pace. I don't think he has
> >>slowed down enough to be classed as "fast-medium".

> Well then, WTF would they call the likes of Akram and McGrath who ARE
> clearly faster? I mean if you call Ambrose "fast", then all 4 WI pacemen
> are "fast", along with McGrath, Gillespie, Kasprowicz, Fleming, Wasim
> Akram, Waqar Younis, etc.

> Dennis Lillee in his dotage became a clever fast-medium bowler. Ambrose is
> doing the same thing, except for the clever bit. And I don't remember
> anyone getting hot under the collar when Channel 9 started referring to
> Lillee as "fast-medium" - around 82/3 IIRC. And nor should they have,
> because he was (Rackemann and Lawson clearly faster in those days). As is
> Ambrose now.

> Josh

 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by Stuart Calde » Fri, 03 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:




>> >>>Notice how the caption writers at Channel 9 have Curtly Ambrose
>> >>>as a right arm fast medium bowler, not right arm fast. I wouldn't
>> >>>consider Curtly to be the same same speed as Paul Reiffel, even in his
>> >>>form slump.

>> >>I too noticed this. Doesn't seem that long ago since Curtly was
>> >>terrorizing the likes of Dean Jones with his pace. I don't think he has
>> >>slowed down enough to be classed as "fast-medium".

>> Well then, WTF would they call the likes of Akram and McGrath who ARE
>> clearly faster? I mean if you call Ambrose "fast", then all 4 WI pacemen
>> are "fast", along with McGrath, Gillespie, Kasprowicz, Fleming, Wasim
>> Akram, Waqar Younis, etc.

>> Dennis Lillee in his dotage became a clever fast-medium bowler. Ambrose is
>> doing the same thing, except for the clever bit. And I don't remember
>> anyone getting hot under the collar when Channel 9 started referring to
>> Lillee as "fast-medium" - around 82/3 IIRC. And nor should they have,
>> because he was (Rackemann and Lawson clearly faster in those days). As is
>> Ambrose now.

>> Josh

Would Allan Donald also be fast-medium?
--
Stuart Calder
 
 
 

Curtly : Fast medium?

Post by Joshua Saunder » Sat, 04 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Quote:



>>> Dennis Lillee in his dotage became a clever fast-medium bowler. Ambrose is
>>> doing the same thing, except for the clever bit. And I don't remember
>>> anyone getting hot under the collar when Channel 9 started referring to
>>> Lillee as "fast-medium" - around 82/3 IIRC. And nor should they have,
>>> because he was (Rackemann and Lawson clearly faster in those days). As is
>>> Ambrose now.

>Would Allan Donald also be fast-medium?

I wouldn't think so. If Donald bowls fast, then he's still fast. I've not
heard of anyone decrying his drop-off in pace0, so I wold assume he is as
fast as ever - ie. fast. :-)

Josh