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Hello Folks,

Much of the debate regarding fast bowling and eating
meat can be resolved by understanding the bowling of
Charlaine Lea Mason who is listed as "FAST" or 90mph
and happens to be  in the Austrailian women's team.

This could verify the theory that fast bowling is all
technique and rythm and has nothing to do with aggressive
behaviour, brute strength or meat eating.

The way to develop fast bowlers in countries like India
is as follows:

For the MRF foundation they should recruit 12-13 year old
tracks stars who have excelled at the national level in the
200m, 400m and 800m events. M Holding was a 400m world class
sprinter. The track athelete can also make a career in parallel
bowling and track. For example Jerry Rice of the SF 49ers was a
track star and wide receiver specialists. The NFL is full of it.
Most College football players where excellent track stars in
High School.

When I was training at the U.S Olympic training center a huge
emphasis was made on technique and it superseeded diet and
other issues to excel. When 12-13 years learn this technique at
a young age it gets cemented in their brain for the rest of their
career.

I hope somebody important in the MRF foundation is reading this?

Nikhil Shah

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Except that "fast" is not a measure of mph. Until there's a radar reading on her
bowling I'd expect that "fast" there means "fast compared to other women
bowlers"

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Mad Hamish

Hamish Laws

I am actually surprised that she is regarded as fast at all.  I had
always regarded Mason as fast-medium and Fitzpatrick as the only real
fast women's bowler in the world.

Fitz is noticably quicker

Cheers

Di

(Actually, this reminds me of a comment a friend of mine once said.
When asked what she bowled, she replied, nothing special, slow, slow
medium, and was got "Aaah, a New Zealand fast then?".  Hahahah!)

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Did she bowl against NZ recently? If so, she isn't that fast since I can't remember
any woman bowler bowling any faster than a shade over medium pace.

120 kilopascals an hour? How fast is that in km/h?

George

Well if you want to be pedantic, Pascals is Pa.

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yep; Charmaine Masons speed is 120 kilo-pico-hours, which is the same
as a nano-hour, which is about half a millisecond.  That sounds pretty
fast, whatever it means :)

jonivar

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Since kilometers per hour is a universal standard
for speed why list the bowlers as "FAST" or "MEDIUM".

Why not just show the average speeds of bowlers in mph
or kmph currently detected by radar. That way we can
eliminate the confusion with speed and not have a "FAST"
bowling standard for men or women?

Anyway, Fitz and Mason both are both quite remarkable if they can
achieve these speeds of around 120 kph. Some men in the
international arena bowl at that speeds.
Off-course, consistent line and length and ability to swing
may become a factor.

But if Fitz and Mason are in the 140kph range then they can
start bowling in the men's team if they cannot swing it or
bowl consistently on a good length spot.

Nikhil Shah

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She bowls in the high 120kph

Baden

whch puts her in "fast medium" in the male bowler classifcation.

It's about the pace McGrath bowls at when he's keeping a fair bit back.

If she's accurate and does a bit with the ball it makes her a good bowler, if
she's the equivalent of an express bowler for the women then it's not really an
argument for diet or physiology, because it's unclear where it is in the
distribution.

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Mad Hamish

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The Speeds generated by Fitz and Mason are comparable to
genuine pace although not at the same level as Brett Lee
or an Akhtar. I would catergorize, but give due respect to
women's cricket that "fast" bowling would result with more
emphasis on rythm and technique and not brute physical strength
or diet. Here is my breakdown

1. Technique and Rythm: 60 %
2. Physiology/Strength: 30 %
3. Diet               : 10 %

We have known that 17 year olds when they generate medium
pace, start generating fast-medium at 19 and then really
fast at 21-23 years, meaning that as they get stronger and
stronger they get faster and faster and diet can help them
become stronger.

But on the other hand not all strong bowlers can generate
high speeds. The technique and rythm can be a major factor
otherwise they would be chucking!

Jeff Thomson had the catapult action where he used a lot
of shoulder strength and later got it injured later. He used pure
strength and very little technique which could be an exception.

Most West Indian bowlers rely more on rythm and track
atheletism.

Nikhil Shah

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I understand there has been radar readings of Catherine Fitzpatrck at
78mph. My impression would be that Charmain Mason is not quite as quick
as her (I've watched them both several times) but she is a sight more
accurate and would be my pick if I had only one choice for my team. She
was player of the series against England recently when the Aussies won
4-0, and in one match by the biggest margin they have ever beaten
England, 220 runs. She took 5 for 9 in one match and 15 wickets in the
series.

At a game at lords in 1998, when both were playing, I approached a few
county players and said if they could chose one player from the Aus XI
to play for the county, in the way the men have overseas players, who
would they pick. Almost without exception it was "Charly" Mason.

Local contacts in Australia tell me one or two players have been
measured as faster than "Fitz" but not by much, and they have not made
it to international level. There is no-one of this pace on the England
scene and I don't think there is in New Zealand either.

Don
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