disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

Post by Rex Bak » Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:32:31


Has anyone heard of any more information about the
behaviour of the Pakistani cricket fans in the last
couple of matches?

Over here in Australia, we can't get any TV coverage
of the series because of some dispute, so it is hard
to know exactly what is going on.

What I heard from the news here, was that there was a
near riot when the latest game between Pak. and Aust.
was called of because of the weather? Is this true
or is the media doing its usual "over-exaggeration"?

I hope that this isn't going to be like the "ridiculous"
behaviour of the English soccer fans. The news here said
spectators were throwing rocks and bottles at players
and other spectators. If this is true, then this sort
of disgraceful childishness shouldn't be allowed to
continue - I wouldn't be suprised if teams in future
refused to tour Pakistan.

BUT, I hope it wasn't as bad as the news reported.

Any info apreciated.
Rex.


 
 
 

disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

Post by sl.. » Fri, 28 Oct 1994 18:43:07

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What I heard from the news here, was that there was a

Quote:
> near riot when the latest game between Pak. and Aust.
> was called of because of the weather? Is this true
> or is the media doing its usual "over-exaggeration"?

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 I wouldn't be suprised if teams in future
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 refused to tour Pakistan.
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Quote:
> BUT, I hope it wasn't as bad as the news reported.

> Any info apreciated.
> Rex.



Hi Rex!
 It is really bad if that happened, but , as you said it maybe a media's
over - exaggeration. And I wont be surprised if western media twist the story.

Coming to your point of other teams not touring Pakistan any more because of
crowd behavior is strange. Almost all countries currently playing Test Cricket
have one problem or other. Specially crowd behavior is very much in question
in countries like West Indies where Abdul Qadir was provocated by the crowd
some years ago, Sri lanka where great Miandad was bothered by crowd and India
where Great Gavaskar refused to play in Calcutta and players like Miandad and
Zaheer Abass were shown light from the crowd while they were batting.

Countries like Australia had bad players behavior when Lille kicked Miandad.
I would also mention England who have produced players like Gatting who have
no manners at all and not to forget BIG MOUTH  Botham . Gatting almost ruined
the series between Pak and Eng because of his bad behavior and it was only
resolved  when foreign offices of the two countries got involved and forced
Gatting to appologize.

So please dont say that only Pakistan has a problem and teams again might not
travel there. Because if that is the criteria then nobody will be traveling
anywhere. Once again don't take me wrong and feel that I support bad behavior
of the crowd. I strongly condem it but my point is only that dont blame
Pakistan only.
I hope you understand my point.

Take care
Ali

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disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

Post by Ravi N Arunkundr » Mon, 31 Oct 1994 02:22:23

Quote:

>continue - I wouldn't be suprised if teams in future
>refused to tour Pakistan.

Cricket(ing) Fans in the sub-continent are known to throw the
occasional tantrum and are prone to rioting occasionally when things
dont quite work out their way (which is pretty often ?). Pakistani
fans in particular are known for their *** protests, and are given
to invading the pitch, hurling stuff at the players and register their
displeasure in no uncertain terms. I remeber the '90 tour by India of
Pak (which as most Pak. tours go, was a very satisfactory one for the
home team) when Pak. when the home teaming was reeling at 28 for 4 in
Karachi with 14 overs gone, more importantly with Javed Miandad gone,
the crowds decided that enough was enough and manhandled a few indian
players and broke up the match. In a very sporting gesture Javed and a
few Pakistani players appealed for calm (should I say Clemency ?), but
it was as effective as singing hymns to stop a rampaging bull elephant
(or should I say an Elephant on the Jihad ?). Which was a pity because
the Indian team would somehow have managed to snatch a defeat from
Jaws of victory as they have demonstrated on innumerous occasions in
the past againt Pakistan.

In any case there was no match and the crowds went home triumphant at
having prevailed againt the superior numbers (of 11 !)...

Read Ray Robinson's "Wildest Tests" for for What Paki. crowds are
capable of doing when the going gets rough - (which means the crowd has
got going ! ) A detailed chronicle and the most humorous indictment of
Paki. and Indian (also West Indian I think) crowd behaviour.

ravi (who thinks Paki. crowds can hold their own against football
thugs of Liverpoool fame).

 
 
 

disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

Post by Amitabha Lahi » Thu, 03 Nov 1994 21:00:53

[This article is not about comparisons of X fans with Y fans.]

Quote:

> I think you forgot to mention that Indian crowd is not an exception also.
> Remember when Asif Iqbal and Imran took teams to India, Pakistani batsmen
> were thrown lights from the crowd to distract their attention while they were
> batting . Another incident is when Hindu extremist group threatened to kill
> Pakistani players if they come to calcutta to play the WC final when India/Pak

Wait, wait. I think you are confusing different things. The Shiv Sena group
made threats about the `safety of the Pakistani team' if they came to play
a Test at *Bombay*, not Calcutta. When Asif Iqbal took his team to India,
he decided to retire from Test cricket at the last match in Calcutta. It
was his farewell game, and when he went for the kill along with Miandad on
the last day (300-ish required in two sessions) the Calcutta crowd would
not have grudged him a farewell victory. And when he was out so unluckily
-- Javed's drive deflecting onto the stumps from Doshi's hand -- the crowd
gave him a reception that befit a vanquished knight. That reception was not
one that could be easily bettered by another stadium.

Quote:
> jointly hosted the world Cup. Thank god we din't qualify and so was the case
> with India. Even great Gavaskar had hard time with the crowd in calcutta.

The great Gavaskar and the Calcutta crowd. Never mind.

Amitabha
--

No one else is responsible for what I say and vice versa.

 
 
 

disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

Post by Diwakar H. Prabhak » Fri, 04 Nov 1994 01:44:25

: When Asif Iqbal took his team to India,
: he decided to retire from Test cricket at the last match in Calcutta. It
: was his farewell game, and when he went for the kill along with Miandad on
: the last day (300-ish required in two sessions) the Calcutta crowd would
: not have grudged him a farewell victory. And when he was out so unluckily
: -- Javed's drive deflecting onto the stumps from Doshi's hand -- the crowd
: gave him a reception that befit a vanquished knight. That reception was not
: one that could be easily bettered by another stadium.

Yeah, I remeber this match very well. Asif Iqbal and Javed Miandad were
among the best runners between wickets and ironically Asif Iqbal was
run-out in his last match !!! He got a tremedous ovation when he walked
back.

Diwakar

 
 
 

disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

Post by sl.. » Thu, 03 Nov 1994 06:59:22

  Pakistani
 fans in particular are known for their *** protests, and are given

Quote:
> to invading the pitch, hurling stuff at the players and register their
> displeasure in no uncertain terms. I remeber the '90 tour by India of
> Pak (which as most Pak. tours go, was a very satisfactory one for the
> home team) when Pak. when the home teaming was reeling at 28 for 4 in
> Karachi with 14 overs gone, more importantly with Javed Miandad gone,
> the crowds decided that enough was enough and manhandled a few indian
> players and broke up the match. In a very sporting gesture Javed and a
> few Pakistani players appealed for calm (should I say Clemency ?), but
> it was as effective as singing hymns to stop a rampaging bull elephant
> (or should I say an Elephant on the Jihad ?). Which was a pity because
> the Indian team would somehow have managed to snatch a defeat from
> Jaws of victory as they have demonstrated on innumerous occasions in
> the past againt Pakistan.

> In any case there was no match and the crowds went home triumphant at
> having prevailed againt the superior numbers (of 11 !)...
> ravi (who thinks Paki. crowds can hold their own against football
> thugs of Liverpoool fame).

I think you forgot to mention that Indian crowd is not an exception also.
Remember when Asif Iqbal and Imran took teams to India, Pakistani batsmen
were thrown lights from the crowd to distract their attention while they were
batting . Another incident is when Hindu extremist group threatened to kill
Pakistani players if they come to calcutta to play the WC final when India/Pak
jointly hosted the world Cup. Thank god we din't qualify and so was the case
with India. Even great Gavaskar had hard time with the crowd in calcutta.

Do you think Indian crowd can also hold their own against football thugs of
Liverpool fame????????

Taka care
Ali

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disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

Post by Ravi N Arunkundr » Sat, 05 Nov 1994 07:29:31

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>I think you forgot to mention that Indian crowd is not an exception also.

Tut Tut, my friend. That is exactly what I did not forget to mention.
There are three references to Indian Crowds there in that mail, which
you have carefully edited out. Such falg waving and polemics and
paranoia are quite uncalled for.

ravi (who wonders why you guys sing the national anthem at the drop of hat )

 
 
 

disgraceful behaviour of Pakistani fans.....

Post by Zaki U. Kha » Sun, 06 Nov 1994 08:43:43

Quote:
> Pakistani fans in particular are known for their *** protests, and are
> given to invading the pitch, hurling stuff at the players

                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^

** I think you are unfairly singling out only the Pakistani fans. You
conveniently forget fans all over the world who are equally unruly and
uncivilized. Recently, some Indian fans hurled bottles at Walsh, which
could have seriously hurt him. Also, consider the *** during/after
many soccer matches and the *** of fans in the US after basketball or
ice hockey games.

Z.U.Khan