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Post by MILDEN » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 21:33:46


"Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
Australians as being " a great man"?
If this is the case, I will shut up, since he is your captain and
representative and this must be who makes you proud. If not, I will continue my
"words" with Deano.
 
 
 

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Post by Simon Crutchle » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 21:49:12


Quote:
> "Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
> excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
> Australians as being " a great man"?
> If this is the case, I will shut up, since he is your captain and
> representative and this must be who makes you proud. If not, I will
continue my
> "words" with Deano.

I asked for his signature at the '92 world cup game against NZ and he told
me to F*!# OFF! David Boon said the same. Good manners those Australians!

BTW I'm not an Aussie.

 
 
 

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Post by Moby » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 22:01:45

Quote:

> I asked for his signature at the '92 world cup game against NZ and he told
> me to F*!# OFF! David Boon said the same. Good manners those Australians!

> BTW I'm not an Aussie.

Which game?

Moby

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Holman » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 22:10:10

Twas on Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:49:12 -0000 that "Simon Crutchley"

Quote:


>> "Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
>> excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
>> Australians as being " a great man"?
>> If this is the case, I will shut up, since he is your captain and
>> representative and this must be who makes you proud. If not, I will
>continue my
>> "words" with Deano.

>I asked for his signature at the '92 world cup game against NZ and he told
>me to F*!# OFF! David Boon said the same. Good manners those Australians!

Yabbit asking for their signatures on your petition to have Australia
banned from further international cricket was surely a bit ambitious?

Chhers,

Mike

 
 
 

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Post by Simon Crutchle » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 22:28:40


Quote:

> > I asked for his signature at the '92 world cup game against NZ and he
told
> > me to F*!# OFF! David Boon said the same. Good manners those
Australians!

> > BTW I'm not an Aussie.

> Which game?

> Moby

It was the opening game in Auckland. NZ won by 37 runs.
 
 
 

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Post by Simon Crutchle » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 22:31:22


<snip>

Quote:
> Yabbit asking for their signatures on your petition to have Australia
> banned from further international cricket was surely a bit ambitious?

> Chhers,

> Mike

Sorry, what?
 
 
 

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Post by pedr » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 22:49:02


Quote:
> "Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
> excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
> Australians as being " a great man"?
> If this is the case, I will shut up, since he is your captain and
> representative and this must be who makes you proud. If not, I will
continue my
> "words" with Deano.

"Great Man".... no I don't think he is, and I don't think the majority of
other Auusies would think that.  IMHO, Steve is lacking a number of
charactersistics that would classify him as a "Great Man", like humility,
compassion....I think the term should be reserved for people like Sir Edward
'Weary' Dunlop (if you don't know who he is, do a google search).

BUT he is a great man for the job... different context

later
pedro

 
 
 

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Post by Zigg » Sat, 02 Mar 2002 03:55:13


Quote:
> "Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
> excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
> Australians as being " a great man"?
> If this is the case, I will shut up, since he is your captain and
> representative and this must be who makes you proud. If not, I will
continue my
> "words" with Deano.

The word 'great' is one of the most over used in history.

No he is definitely not a great man.

Great cricketer and Captain - yes.

 
 
 

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Post by Zigg » Sat, 02 Mar 2002 03:56:13


Quote:


> > "Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
> > excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
> > Australians as being " a great man"?
> > If this is the case, I will shut up, since he is your captain and
> > representative and this must be who makes you proud. If not, I will
> continue my
> > "words" with Deano.

> I asked for his signature at the '92 world cup game against NZ and he told
> me to F*!# OFF! David Boon said the same. Good manners those Australians!

> BTW I'm not an Aussie.

What a whinger!
He was being polite.
Normally, like Hughes, they hit you with a bat.
 
 
 

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Post by Rod Princ » Sat, 02 Mar 2002 04:02:47



Quote:
> "Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
> excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
> Australians as being " a great man"?

Absolutely.

Cheers,
Rod.

 
 
 

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Post by lcf » Sat, 02 Mar 2002 04:38:43

Thanks for your honesty. From my point of view Waugh simply does not qualify
for that label. He deserves to be called an excellent individual cricketer -
mainly because he bats so well under pressure. But Waugh personifies the
following for me, which will always deprive him of the label of "great
captain":

* immodest; boastful
* incredible hypocrite
* personally abusive sledger
* lack of any conscience
* poor loser
* egotistical
* rejects any criticism
* inconsiderate
* does not control his players
* uses tactics that violate the spirit of the game


Quote:

> "Great Man".... no I don't think he is, and I don't think the majority of
> other Auusies would think that.  IMHO, Steve is lacking a number of
> charactersistics that would classify him as a "Great Man", like humility,
> compassion....I think the term should be reserved for people like Sir
Edward
> 'Weary' Dunlop (if you don't know who he is, do a google search).

> BUT he is a great man for the job... different context

> later
> pedro

 
 
 

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Post by Stuart Bulloc » Sat, 02 Mar 2002 06:17:23

Quote:

>"Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
>excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
>Australians as being " a great man"?
>If this is the case, I will shut up, since he is your captain and
>representative and this must be who makes you proud. If not, I will continue my
>"words" with Deano.

In terms of cricketing - I think the Waugh's magnificent.  But in
terms of captaining as being an all-round thing; both on and off the
field, then he pales in comparison to Mark Taylor... who I have always
rated as a great captain and gentleman (despite the side burns I saw
him wearing not long ago.)

However, in terms of sheer winning ruthlessness he is a captain very
much in the mold of Don Bradman - another ruthless captain.

Initially I thought Steve Waugh was very much an off the field captain
in the mold of Alan Border (who once, when told that the England team
was weaker because of the injuries, replied: "It only hurts when
you're losing."); but he is even more ruthless and calculating.  No,
he is more like the type of captain that Bradman was.

My 2 pence,

SPB

 
 
 

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Post by Ken Higg » Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:05:03

Quote:


> > I asked for his signature at the '92 world cup game against NZ and he told
> > me to F*!# OFF! David Boon said the same. Good manners those Australians!

> > BTW I'm not an Aussie.

> Which game?

> Moby

Taking a stab in the dark, I'd say Aus v NZ

Higgsy

 
 
 

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Post by Simo » Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:18:35


Quote:
> "Deano" says Steve waugh is a "great man". I understand that he is an
> excelllent cricketer and possibly a great captain. Is he perceived by
> Australians as being " a great man"?
> If this is the case, I will shut up, since he is your captain and
> representative and this must be who makes you proud. If not, I will continue my
> "words" with Deano.

He's a great man who has some failings (e.g. recent press conferences in
Australia).  This recent stink about him saying "I wish we could have
beaten [the South Africans] more" is completely unjustified, IMO, because
when it comes down to it he said nothing that wasn't true.  

--
Simon Kent - esrever ni liame

 
 
 

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Post by Moby » Sat, 02 Mar 2002 08:23:59

Quote:




> > > I asked for his signature at the '92 world cup game against NZ and he
> told
> > > me to F*!# OFF! David Boon said the same. Good manners those
> Australians!

> > > BTW I'm not an Aussie.

> > Which game?
> It was the opening game in Auckland. NZ won by 37 runs.

And where were you sitting?

Moby