First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by McD » Fri, 01 Jan 1999 04:00:00


Just curious...but can anyone supply some details on cricketers from
'unlikely' countries playing first class cricket anywhere in the world?
By 'unlikely' I mean that they come from countries which are some way
off attaining test status e.g. Holland, Canada, New Zealand (just
kidding about that, Kiwis).

Have a great new year.

Joseph

 
 
 

First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Marie-Ann » Fri, 01 Jan 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> Just curious...but can anyone supply some details on cricketers from
> 'unlikely' countries playing first class cricket anywhere in the world?
> By 'unlikely' I mean that they come from countries which are some way
> off attaining test status e.g. Holland, Canada, New Zealand (just
> kidding about that, Kiwis).

> Have a great new year.

> Joseph

Hi Joseph - and a happy new year to you.  

I can only think one player in Australian F/C cricket who meets your
requirements.  Victorian off-spinner John Davison was born in Canada.  

Another that sprang to mind, but retired a couple of years ago, was  
Neil Maxwell.  The former Victorian and New South Wales allrounder,
who was involved with NZ cricket last I heard, was born in Fiji.

That's the best I can do from here.

Call the fire brigade; there's bound to be flames from New Zealand!  ;-)  

- Cheers, MAC!

 
 
 

First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Sulla9 » Fri, 01 Jan 1999 04:00:00

1st Class players from unusual countries that I can think of (mainly from
English counties)

Paul Jan Bakker - Holland and Hampshire
Andre van Troost - Holland and Somerset
Ole Mortensen - Denmark and Derbyshire
Roland Lefebvre - Holland and Glamorgan

There are others, but I'll need to think further!

Cheers,

Alexe Sulla

 
 
 

First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by John Hal » Fri, 01 Jan 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Just curious...but can anyone supply some details on cricketers from
>'unlikely' countries playing first class cricket anywhere in the world?
>By 'unlikely' I mean that they come from countries which are some way
>off attaining test status e.g. Holland, Canada, New Zealand (just
>kidding about that, Kiwis).

Xenophon Balaskas, who played for South Africa, was Greek by birth.

Ted Dexter was born in Milan and Freddie Brown in Lima, but of course
that doesn't mean that they were Italian or Peruvian respectively.

Quote:

>Have a great new year.

And a Happy New Year to you and all of rsc.
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First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by (Cybiades) Peter » Fri, 01 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



> >Just curious...but can anyone supply some details on cricketers from
> >'unlikely' countries playing first class cricket anywhere in the world?
> >By 'unlikely' I mean that they come from countries which are some way
> >off attaining test status e.g. Holland, Canada, New Zealand (just
> >kidding about that, Kiwis).

> Xenophon Balaskas, who played for South Africa, was Greek by birth.

> Ted Dexter was born in Milan and Freddie Brown in Lima, but of course
> that doesn't mean that they were Italian or Peruvian respectively.

John Traicos...born Egypt, played Test cricket for the RSA and
Zimbabwe.
Derek Pringle, born Kenya, played Test cricket for England
Dipak Patel, born Kenya, played Test cricket for NZ
Not to mention Phil De Freitas, born Dominica, and played Test cricket
for England...
Can't remember exactly where Devon Malcolm and Chris Lewis were born
in the West Indies...
Oh yeah, Nasser Hussein, born India, plays Test cricket for England.

There's bound to be others; no doubt Aslam will post a list at some
stage.
'Later
Peter
Happy New Year to all concerned

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First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Drew » Fri, 01 Jan 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

> > Just curious...but can anyone supply some details on cricketers from
> > 'unlikely' countries playing first class cricket anywhere in the world?

A lot depends on what you mean by "from" too. Do you just mean "born in"?
There have been plenty of Test players born in Italy, South America etc -
but they are hardly what you would call Italian cricketers.

Quote:
> > By 'unlikely' I mean that they come from countries which are some way
> > off attaining test status e.g. Holland, Canada, New Zealand (just
> > kidding about that, Kiwis).

> > Have a great new year.

> > Joseph

> Hi Joseph - and a happy new year to you.  

> I can only think one player in Australian F/C cricket who meets your
> requirements.  Victorian off-spinner John Davison was born in Canada.  
> Another that sprang to mind, but retired a couple of years ago, was  
> Neil Maxwell.  The former Victorian and New South Wales allrounder,
> who was involved with NZ cricket last I heard, was born in Fiji.

That's true - and it illustrates my initial point. Davo was born in Canada
but is certainly not Canadian. His dad was president of Gordon CC here in
Sydney. Maxy (now playing for Balmain in Sydney but currently under
suspension for a mid-pitch fight) was born in Lautoka where his Australian
parents worked for CSR sugar refinery.

There have plenty of England players actually born in Wales (Croft),
Scotland (Such), Ireland (McCague).

Let's see what I can remember:
Dermot Reeve Hong Kong
Hmmm, that's not very good. My trusty Wisden (1997) says that:
Paul Terry (Hampshire) was born in Germany
Jonathon Longley (Durham) was born in the USA

Quote:

> That's the best I can do from here.

Yes, I haven't been overly helpful either, I'm afraid.

Drewy

 
 
 

First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Richard Edli » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Just curious...but can anyone supply some details on cricketers from
> 'unlikely' countries playing first class cricket anywhere in the world?
> By 'unlikely' I mean that they come from countries which are some way
> off attaining test status e.g. Holland, Canada, New Zealand (just
> kidding about that, Kiwis).

:-)

From cricinfo:

*** TEST PLAYERS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY THEY REPRESENTED ***

PAKISTAN
Qasim Omar              Nairobi, Kenya

ENGLAND
F.R.Brown               Lima, Peru
D.B.Carr                Wiesbaden, Germany
E.R.Dexter              Milan, Italy
P.H.Edmonds             Lusaka, Nthn Rhodesia (now Zambia)
D.R.Pringle             Nairobi, Kenya
N.V.Radford             Luanshya, Nthn Rhodesia (now Zambia)
D.A.Reeve               Kowloon, Hong Kong
V.P.Terry               Osnabruck, Germany

AUSTRALIA
A.Cotter                Palestine (now Israel)

SOUTH AFRICA
FJ Cook                 Java (now in Indonesia)
DEJ Ironside            Mozambique
LA Markham              Mbabane, Swaziland
AJ Tracois              Zagazig, Egypt (also represented Zimbabwe)
RJ Westcott             Lisbon, Portugal

WEST INDIES
G.A.Headley             Colon, Panama
K.H.Weekes              USA

NEW ZEALAND
D.N.Patel               Nairobi, Kenya

INDIA
S.A.Durani              Kabul, Afghanistan
A.Gandotra              Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Lall Singh              Kuala Lumpur, Malaya (now Malaysia)
P.Sen                   Comilla, Bengal (now in Bangladesh)

SRI LANKA
None

ZIMBABWE
AJ Tracois              Zagazig, Egypt (also represented South Africa)

(As an interesting aside, according to the cricinfo register, all Sri
Lankan players have been Sri Lankans by birth.)

Richard.

 
 
 

First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Francis Payn » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



> >Just curious...but can anyone supply some details on cricketers from
> >'unlikely' countries playing first class cricket anywhere in the world?
> >By 'unlikely' I mean that they come from countries which are some way
> >off attaining test status e.g. Holland, Canada, New Zealand (just
> >kidding about that, Kiwis).

> Xenophon Balaskas, who played for South Africa, was Greek by birth.

Born in Kimberley, South Africa, I'm afraid.
 
 
 

First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Nick Knowle » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


<SNIP>
>From cricinfo:

>*** TEST PLAYERS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY THEY REPRESENTED ***
<SNIPPED>

Bit of a short list for England:-
Ranji, Pataudi, Duleepsinjhi, Hussain, Cowdrey, Lamb, Smith (x2), Greig
(x2), Pringle, Malcolm, DeFreitas, Lewis, Caddick, Hollioake (x2), White,
Benjamin, Patel, Hick, Small, Williams (Neil), could go on for ages
probably.
And Australia - half the side in Test #1 were English, and Grimmett & Julian
were Kiwis.

Nick
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Post by John Hal » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

>> Xenophon Balaskas, who played for South Africa, was Greek by birth.

>Born in Kimberley, South Africa, I'm afraid.

You're probably right. My reference, not entirely helpfully, just says
he was of "Greek origin", which I took to mean that he was born in
Greece.
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           Though loss of honour was a wrench
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Post by Richard Edli » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



> <SNIP>
> >From cricinfo:

> >*** TEST PLAYERS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY THEY REPRESENTED ***
> <SNIPPED>

> Bit of a short list for England:-
> Ranji, Pataudi, Duleepsinjhi, Hussain, Cowdrey, Lamb, Smith (x2), Greig
> (x2), Pringle, Malcolm, DeFreitas, Lewis, Caddick, Hollioake (x2), White,
> Benjamin, Patel, Hick, Small, Williams (Neil), could go on for ages
> probably.
> And Australia - half the side in Test #1 were English, and Grimmett & Julian
> were Kiwis.

The list was censored in two ways
1) It relied on cricinfo to have kept it up to date - I think you could
safely assume it's accurate up to 1994-95.
2) As per the title of the thread, it dealt with cricketers from
unlikely (non-test playing) nations.  In England's list there were
Indians, Australians, New Zealanders and Zimbabweans.  BTW, I don't
think Patel (sixpack variety) ever played a test for England ... was
this a different Patel?

Richard,

 
 
 

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Post by (Cybiades) Peter » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> The list was censored in two ways
> 1) It relied on cricinfo to have kept it up to date - I think you could
> safely assume it's accurate up to 1994-95.
> 2) As per the title of the thread, it dealt with cricketers from
> unlikely (non-test playing) nations.  In England's list there were
> Indians, Australians, New Zealanders and Zimbabweans.  BTW, I don't
> think Patel (sixpack variety) ever played a test for England ... was
> this a different Patel?

> Richard,

Forgetting a few other blokes here too...what about all the Rhodesians
who played for South Africa prior to 1970? Jackie du Preez, Colin
Bland, Goofy Lawrence, et al? I forgot about these guys...
'Later
Peter
r.s.c's #1 Zimbabwe fan

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First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Nick Knowle » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:




>> <SNIP>
>> >From cricinfo:

>> >*** TEST PLAYERS BORN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY THEY REPRESENTED ***
>> <SNIPPED>

<SNIPPED>
>BTW, I don't
>think Patel (sixpack variety) ever played a test for England ... was
>this a different Patel?

Fair enough Richard, I'll read the header more closely in future.

The Patel in question, Minal Mahesh (Min) of Kent, played two Tests v India
in 1996.

Nick
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First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Richard Edli » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> Forgetting a few other blokes here too...what about all the Rhodesians
> who played for South Africa prior to 1970? Jackie du Preez, Colin
> Bland, Goofy Lawrence, et al? I forgot about these guys...
> 'Later
> Peter
> r.s.c's #1 Zimbabwe fan

It's probably fair enough to include those guys ... I didn't only
because Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia are geographically in what is now
Zimbabwe.  :-)

Richard.

 
 
 

First class cricketers from 'unlikely' countries

Post by Richard Edli » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> Forgetting a few other blokes here too...what about all the Rhodesians
> who played for South Africa prior to 1970? Jackie du Preez, Colin
> Bland, Goofy Lawrence, et al? I forgot about these guys...
> 'Later
> Peter
> r.s.c's #1 Zimbabwe fan

It's probably fair enough to include those guys ... I omitted them
because Rhodesia and Southern Rhodesia are geographically in what is now
Zimbabwe.  :-)

Richard.