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by **Robin..** » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Arguably, the three best batsmen of the 1980's were: Border, Gavaskar, and Miandad

Here are their home/away career stats. from cricinfo:

Tests Runs 100's Avg.

Border:
Home 81 5743 13 45.94
Away 72 5431 14 56.57

Gavaskar:
Home 65 5067 16 50.17
Away 60 5055 18 52.11

Miandad:
Home 59 4701 14 61.67
Away 56 3715 9 44.07

Does this say anything about the abilities of these batsmen?

by **s..** » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

u> writes:
>Arguably, the three best batsmen of the 1980's were: Border, Gavaskar, and Mian
dad

>Here are their home/away career stats. from cricinfo:

> Tests Runs 100's Avg.

>Border:
> Home 81 5743 13 45.94
> Away 72 5431 14 56.57

>Gavaskar:
> Home 65 5067 16 50.17
> Away 60 5055 18 52.11

>Miandad:
> Home 59 4701 14 61.67
> Away 56 3715 9 44.07

>Does this say anything about the abilities of these batsmen?

From these numbers, it appears that Miandad's average is significantly better
at home. Zaheer Abbas and Mudasser Nazar also come to my mind as batsman who
were really difficult to get out in Pakistan (atleast to Indian bowlers). Can
anybody post Vivian Richard's, Geoff Boycott's and Greg Chappell's batting
statistics?

by **P.Ganesh Murth** » Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:00:00

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> Arguably, the three best batsmen of the 1980's were: Border, Gavaskar, and Miandad

Picky ..picky, yes, but the name of one West Indian bat seems to have
been left off from the list above...maybe his case is not "arguable"::)

cheers,
ganesh.

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P.Ganesh Murthy
CS dept .,Purdue university.

by **Jai Nataraj** » Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:00:00

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: > Arguably, the three best batsmen of the 1980's were: Border, Gavaskar, and Miandad

: Picky ..picky, yes, but the name of one West Indian bat seems to have
: been left off from the list above...maybe his case is not "arguable"::)

And my all-time favourite David Gower !
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by **Venkatesh Sridhar** » Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:00:00

: Arguably, the three best batsmen of the 1980's were: Border, Gavaskar, and Miandad

[...]

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Since we're expressing personal opinions about batsmen here, in my opinion,
Viv Richards in the mood could outdo all your three (perfectly justified)
selections rolled into one.

Before you look at the stats, take a look at some of the man's innings, and
you'll see what I'm talking about...

Win or lose, forever Windies.
Venky (Venkatesh Sridharan).

by **s..** » Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>On stats Dean Jones has a case as well. Averaged over 50 for the decade.

I think you should also consider the total number of runs a batsman has scored.
I do not think he has scored more than 5000 test runs. However I really liked
to see Dean Jones bat.

On the basis of test averages + test runs scored, Border, Gavaskar, Viv
Richards, Miandad and Greg Chappell have the strongest claims.

Sambit.

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by **Sankar** » Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:00:00

No it doesn't....

On any given day Viv Richards was far superior to any
of the above three. I would say the best three are

Richards
Border
Miandad

in that order.

Sankara

by **Jane_..** » Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:00:00

It was I who did the unpardonable, forgot THE best bat of the '80's, Viv Richards.

To make amends, I have here his home/away record, taken from cricinfo:

Tests Runs Centuries Avg.
Home 51 3311 11 48.71
Away 70 5229 13 51.27

Just like Gavaskar and Border, his record away is superior to his record at home.
This is not the case for Miandad. Does this lessen Miandad's achievements in some
way? A friend of mine claimed that Miandad got out LBW only once in Pakistan.
Could some more informed soul correct this?

by **Lester Nis** » Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:00:00

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> My top six would probably be (in batting order):
> Gordon Greenidge
> Desmond Haynes
> Sunil Gavaskar
> Viv Richards
> Javed Miandad
> Greg Chappell

> Apologies to:
> Allan Border
> Clive Lloyd (no wonder the West Indies were so hard to beat)
> Zaheer Abbass

You've all forgotten Graeme Pollock, the best batsman the world has seen since
Bradman.

by **Tim Fountai** » Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:00:00

My top six would probably be (in batting order):
Gordon Greenidge
Desmond Haynes
Sunil Gavaskar
Viv Richards
Javed Miandad
Greg Chappell

Apologies to:
Allan Border
Clive Lloyd (no wonder the West Indies were so hard to beat)
Zaheer Abbass

by **Shariq Ahmed Tari** » Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Arguably, the three best batsmen of the 1980's were: Border, Gavaskar, and Miandad

> Here are their home/away career stats. from cricinfo:

> Tests Runs 100's Avg.

> Border:
> Home 81 5743 13 45.94
> Away 72 5431 14 56.57

> Gavaskar:
> Home 65 5067 16 50.17
> Away 60 5055 18 52.11

> Miandad:
> Home 59 4701 14 61.67
> Away 56 3715 9 44.07

> Does this say anything about the abilities of these batsmen?

Well I think if definitely weighs in favor of Border and Gavaskar IMHO.
And more so for Border than Gavaskar. However I would not look too much
into these stats. Home umpires and home conditions certainly give a
player an advantage, but that certainly was not a case for Allan (to alll
you critics of Aussie umpiring what do you have to say now....j/k)

Would anyone be kind enough to home and away averages of the other three
great batsmen of the 80s, Greenidge, Gower, and Vivian Richards.

Shariq

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by **R. Bharat R** » Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:00:00

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>No it doesn't....
>On any given day Viv Richards was far superior to any
>of the above three. I would say the best three are
>Richards
>Border
>Miandad

You wouldn't happen to be a Vishy fan, would you??

Quote:

>in that order.
>Sankara

:):)

Bharat

PS: Sorry for the inside Indian-joke. For the non-Indians, in the
mid-to-late 70s there was a huge debate about who was better,
Vishwanath or Gavaskar. Virtually everyone from the South (including
me) swore by Vishy, and those from the West of India picked Gavaskar.
As time passed on and Vishy faded.. er bloated.. away, and Gavaskar
seemed to go from strength to strength, many of us changed our views
to "Vishy was better to watch, etc., but Gavaskar was the man."

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by **@GUNET.GEORGETOWN.ED** » Wed, 27 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> > My top six would probably be (in batting order):
> > Gordon Greenidge
> > Desmond Haynes
> > Sunil Gavaskar
> > Viv Richards
> > Javed Miandad
> > Greg Chappell

> > Apologies to:
> > Allan Border
> > Clive Lloyd (no wonder the West Indies were so hard to beat)
> > Zaheer Abbass

> You've all forgotten Graeme Pollock, the best batsman the world has seen since
> Bradman.

I would replace Haynes with Border, the best left-handed batsmen (ever?).

by **s..** » Wed, 27 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>>>> My top six would probably be (in batting order):
>> Gordon Greenidge
>> Desmond Haynes
>> Sunil Gavaskar
>> Viv Richards
>> Javed Miandad
>> Greg Chappell

>> Apologies to:
>> Allan Border
>> Clive Lloyd (no wonder the West Indies were so hard to beat)
>> Zaheer Abbass

>You've all forgotten Graeme Pollock, the best batsman the world has seen since
>Bradman.

I have never seen Pollock bat because S.A. was banned from playing Test
cricket for so long. So, your assessment must be based mostly on first class
cricket! Does he have a Bradmanesque average there or is your assessment on
the basis of how he scored his runs?

And how did everybody forget Barry Richards.............
Sambit.

by **P.Ganesh Murth** » Wed, 27 Mar 1996 04:00:00

> I would replace Haynes with Border, the best left-handed batsmen (ever?).