ICC Test Rankings Question

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Maxx » Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:12:45


South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
well as obviously being the top ranked team.

Has this ever happened before?

 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by alve » Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:31:33

Quote:

> South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> Has this ever happened before?

Yes. SG Law held all the individual rankings simultaneously and carried the
team to #1 as well.

 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Maxx » Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:39:39


Quote:

> > South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> > categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> > well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> > Has this ever happened before?

> Yes. SG Law held all the individual rankings simultaneously and carried the
> team to #1 as well.

I'll take that as a No then.

 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Jellor » Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:33:11


Quote:


> > > South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> > > categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> > > well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> > > Has this ever happened before?

> > Yes. SG Law held all the individual rankings simultaneously and carried the
> > team to #1 as well.

> I'll take that as a No then.

Alvey finds it difficult to praise anyone.
 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Andrew B » Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:51:50

Quote:

> South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> Has this ever happened before?

Might depend on how far back you're prepared to go. After the 1948 Ashes, Bradman was the top batsman, Lindwall the top bowler and (I suspect) Miller the top all-rounder.
 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Maxx » Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:25:53


Quote:

> > South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> > categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> > well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> > Has this ever happened before?

> Might depend on how far back you're prepared to go. After the 1948 Ashes, Bradman was the top batsman, Lindwall the top bowler and (I suspect) Miller the top all-rounder.

Yeah that would include ever.....not bad company indeed!
 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Mike Holman » Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:42:30

On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 00:12:45 -0800 (PST), Maxx

Quote:
>South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
>categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
>well as obviously being the top ranked team.

>Has this ever happened before?

No. South Africa have never before been top in all those categories at
once.

Cheers,

Mike

--

 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Maxx » Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:50:34


Quote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 00:12:45 -0800 (PST), Maxx

> >South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> >categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> >well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> >Has this ever happened before?

> No. South Africa have never before been top in all those categories at
> once.

Ah there had to be one clever one :-)
 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Mad Hamis » Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:06:48

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 01:51:50 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B."

Quote:


>> South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
>> categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
>> well as obviously being the top ranked team.

>> Has this ever happened before?

>Might depend on how far back you're prepared to go. After the 1948 Ashes, Bradman was the top batsman, Lindwall the top bowler and (I suspect) Miller the top all-rounder.

Could be interesting around WWI as well.

it's possible you'd have a time when Rhodes or Woolley was the top
allrounder, Hobbs the top batsman and Barnes the top bowler
--
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ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Bob Duber » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:15:52


Quote:
> South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> Has this ever happened before?

Don't know. I do know that for most of the time international cricket
has been played there were no rankings, so, to use the obvious
example, Clive Lloyd's West Indies teams never held all the top spots
in the rankings because there were no rankings.
 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Maxx » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:26:09


Quote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 00:12:45 -0800 (PST), Maxx

> >South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> >categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> >well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> >Has this ever happened before?

> No. South Africa have never before been top in all those categories at
> once.

Although you'd have to think that during the 70's there woudl've been
Richards/Pollock, Procter, Procter eh Mike?
 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Andrew B » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:26:58

Quote:


> > South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> > categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> > well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> > Has this ever happened before?

> Don't know. I do know that for most of the time international cricket
> has been played there were no rankings, so, to use the obvious
> example, Clive Lloyd's West Indies teams never held all the top spots
> in the rankings because there were no rankings.

They never held all the top spots in the retrospective rankings because at the time the best all-rounders were Botham, Hadlee, Imran and Kapil while the WI just had great bowlers who could bat a bit.
 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Maxx » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:32:43


Quote:

> > South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> > categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> > well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> > Has this ever happened before?

> Don't know. I do know that for most of the time international cricket
> has been played there were no rankings, so, to use the obvious
> example, Clive Lloyd's West Indies teams never held all the top spots
> in the rankings because there were no rankings.

Actually yes we do know Bob.  For example, on 7 Feb 1981 Viv Richards
was the top ranked batsman and Joel Garner for bowling, and I'm sure
the Windies would have been the top team.  The top allrounder at the
time was Botham, and I can't think of any West Indian allrounders from
Lloyd's era who would be up there, can you?

Check it out:

http://www.relianceiccrankings.com/datespecific/test/

 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by Maxx » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:54:25



Quote:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 01:51:50 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B."



> >> South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
> >> categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
> >> well as obviously being the top ranked team.

> >> Has this ever happened before?

> >Might depend on how far back you're prepared to go. After the 1948 Ashes, Bradman was the top batsman, Lindwall the top bowler and (I suspect) Miller the top all-rounder.

> Could be interesting around WWI as well.

> it's possible you'd have a time when Rhodes or Woolley was the top
> allrounder, Hobbs the top batsman and Barnes the top bowler

You're right about Hobbs and Barnes, but Aubrey Faulkner was the top
ranked allrounder.
 
 
 

ICC Test Rankings Question

Post by John Hal » Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:48:40



Quote:


>> > South Africa has the number one in all four ICC Test Ranking
>> > categories- Amla batting, Steyn bowling and Kallis allroundering, as
>> > well as obviously being the top ranked team.

>> > Has this ever happened before?

>> Don't know. I do know that for most of the time international cricket
>> has been played there were no rankings, so, to use the obvious
>> example, Clive Lloyd's West Indies teams never held all the top spots
>> in the rankings because there were no rankings.

>They never held all the top spots in the retrospective rankings
>because at the time the best all-rounders were Botham, Hadlee,
>Imran and Kapil while the WI just had great bowlers who could
>bat a bit.

A little earlier though, in the early to mid 1960s, they might have
done, though I haven't checked. Arguably Sobers was the best batsman and
the best all-rounder, and Hall the best bowler.
--
John Hall

          "Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."
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