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Post by Mike Holman » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 01:47:15


NZ ought to have won this Test series, by most reasonable measures.

But if there's one thing it's unwise to bet your shirt on, it's
England failing to save a match. They can collapse in two sessions on
day one, and then bat for two days the next time round.

I shall now attempt to irritate the Lord High Priest of Understanding
Randomness (Failed) by ascribing some meaning to this.

My theory, which is mine, is this, this theory of mine that it is:

England's players are rather unimaginative.

Give them a defined task, like "Take the 10 wickets of these batsmen
under these conditions for under 368 to win a Test match" or "Bat for
145 overs in these conditions against these to save a Test", or "Score
275 in 50 overs on a pitch you've seen in action to win an odo", and
they can work out what to do.

Give them an undefined task like "Go out and get as many runs as you
can" or "Take wickets on whatever sort of pitch this is", and they
have no idea at all. They can just about manage things if they have
worked out that their opponents are really dangerous, but when they've
done their back-room analyses and come up with the conclusion that a
set of bowlers are not all that challenging so they'll have to work
out how to react to them and what to do for themselves, they are lost
without a compass.

Cheers,

Mike
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Post by tendulkar.co » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:00:28

Quote:

> NZ ought to have won this Test series, by most reasonable measures.

> But if there's one thing it's unwise to bet your shirt on, it's

> England failing to save a match. They can collapse in two sessions on

> day one, and then bat for two days the next time round.

> I shall now attempt to irritate the Lord High Priest of Understanding

> Randomness (Failed) by ascribing some meaning to this.

> My theory, which is mine, is this, this theory of mine that it is:

> England's players are rather unimaginative.

> Give them a defined task, like "Take the 10 wickets of these batsmen

> under these conditions for under 368 to win a Test match" or "Bat for

> 145 overs in these conditions against these to save a Test", or "Score

> 275 in 50 overs on a pitch you've seen in action to win an odo", and

> they can work out what to do.

> Give them an undefined task like "Go out and get as many runs as you

> can" or "Take wickets on whatever sort of pitch this is", and they

> have no idea at all. They can just about manage things if they have

> worked out that their opponents are really dangerous, but when they've

> done their back-room analyses and come up with the conclusion that a

> set of bowlers are not all that challenging so they'll have to work

> out how to react to them and what to do for themselves, they are lost

> without a compass.

> Cheers,

> Mike

> --

It helped England in all those cases that the pitch was dead/road.

 
 
 

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Post by jzfredrick » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:23:36

I wonder if it's 1 part unimaginative, 1 part complacent.

I don't think Eng's last 4 "first innings of first Test in away series" dire results are pure coincidence. You haven't said they are, I'm just pointing out there's a difficult to explained reason for it.

Still, I much prefer today's England than last decade's one. Then we'd regularly lose matches that we should've won/drawn. Today, we draw/win matches that we should lose.

 
 
 

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Post by alve » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:00:12

Quote:

> NZ ought to have won this Test series, by most reasonable measures.

> But if there's one thing it's unwise to bet your shirt on, it's
> England failing to save a match. They can collapse in two sessions on
> day one, and then bat for two days the next time round.

> I shall now attempt to irritate the Lord High Priest of Understanding
> Randomness (Failed) by ascribing some meaning to this.

> My theory, which is mine, is this, this theory of mine that it is:

> England's players are rather unimaginative.

> Give them a defined task, like "Take the 10 wickets of these batsmen
> under these conditions for under 368 to win a Test match" or "Bat for
> 145 overs in these conditions against these to save a Test", or "Score
> 275 in 50 overs on a pitch you've seen in action to win an odo", and
> they can work out what to do.

> Give them an undefined task like "Go out and get as many runs as you
> can" or "Take wickets on whatever sort of pitch this is", and they
> have no idea at all. They can just about manage things if they have
> worked out that their opponents are really dangerous, but when they've
> done their back-room analyses and come up with the conclusion that a
> set of bowlers are not all that challenging so they'll have to work
> out how to react to them and what to do for themselves, they are lost
> without a compass.

> Cheers,

> Mike

There's 3 stages of a great team.

Stage I - Talent is assembled. They're young and keen. Will go flat out and
play & train hard all the time. They're driven to reach #1. Win win win.

Stage II - They've reached #1. Having achieved this, the principal
motivation is removed. Money, women, being a celeb on the teev etc are more
attractive options than spending a couple of hours practicing your
leg-cutter. You, and your collective, only go flat out when necessary. The
odd unexpected loss/draw occur.

Stage III - The words "re-building phase", "transitional stage" etc appear
routinely.  

Eng/RSA/Ire/RotW are at about 2.4.

alvey