asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Jonatha » Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Hi all,

Just came on-line to see how the world XI Vs Asia XI was turning out.
Christ what a***poor line up! 5 english players? Come on and One
of the hollioke sisters? They must of been hard up for players?
No south africans either! I see the aussies aren't represented well
either SG law? When was the last time he played a ODI. How come lara
wasn't available?

i see the Asia XI is no great shakes either! no tendulkar, ganguly and
dravid
(yeah i know they are busy with county cricket).

The should change the world best to "to is all we could scrape together"

Still Nathan Astle looks in good nick!
Jonathan

 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by John Hal » Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>Hi all,

>Just came on-line to see how the world XI Vs Asia XI was turning out.
>Christ what a***poor line up!

Looks a pretty useful line-up to me. You are never going to get the 22
best players in the world for a match of this nature; some will have
other commitments. As it is, probably five or six of those involved
would be in a world best one-day eleven.

Quote:
> 5 english players?

Not unreasonable, given that the match is being played in England,
surely? Had such a match been played in New Zealand, say, I bet four or
five New Zealanders would have been playing.

Quote:
> Come on and One
>of the hollioke sisters? They must of been hard up for players?

Shane Warne dropped out at the last minute with a dodgy knee, so they
needed a short notice replacement. That's the only reason Ben Hollioake
played.

Quote:
>No south africans either!

Aren't they involved in a one day series in Sri Lanka at the moment?

Quote:
> I see the aussies aren't represented well
>either SG law? When was the last time he played a ODI.

He's a very fine one day player, who would probably walk into most
countries' one day sides.

Quote:
> How come lara
>wasn't available?

Ask Lara.

Quote:

>i see the Asia XI is no great shakes either! no tendulkar, ganguly and
>dravid
>(yeah i know they are busy with county cricket).

Yep, that's the reason for the last two being absent. Tendulkar was due
to captain the Asian side, but went down with chickenpox yesterday. A
side with Anwar, De Silva, Azzaruddin, Saqlain Mushtaq, Akram, Kumble,
Srinath, Mongia doesn't look too bad to me.

Quote:

>The should change the world best to "to is all we could scrape together"

They look like two pretty useful sides to me, either of which would
probably have beaten any of the England, West Indies or Zimbabwe sides
who've just finished their triangular tournament.

Quote:

>Still Nathan Astle looks in good nick!

Yep.
--
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asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Razi Chaudhr » Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Sachin's departure did cause Asia XI to looks unbalanced side. Now with 4
bats and 6 bowlers and Mongia comming at #5.

Regards
Razi Chaudhry


Quote:

> Yep, that's the reason for the last two being absent. Tendulkar was due
> to captain the Asian side, but went down with chickenpox yesterday. A
> side with Anwar, De Silva, Azzaruddin, Saqlain Mushtaq, Akram, Kumble,
> Srinath, Mongia doesn't look too bad to me.


 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Jan Buxto » Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> > How come lara
> >wasn't available?

> Ask Lara.

The injury that is preventing him playing for the Windies vs Leics this
weekend.

--
Jan

 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Autism » Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>Sachin's departure did cause Asia XI to looks unbalanced side. Now with 4
>bats and 6 bowlers and Mongia comming at #5.

Also Warne for BC Hollioake (who appeared to have Warne's
shirt with "Pely" (apparently Pelican) on it)
 
 
 

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Post by bob » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> >No south africans either!

> Aren't they involved in a one day series in Sri Lanka at the moment?

Alan donald is in england and hansie isn't doing much at the moment.
 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Mac Attac » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> > >No south africans either!

> > Aren't they involved in a one day series in Sri Lanka at the moment?
> Alan donald is in england and hansie isn't doing much at the moment.

My ass Hansie's not doing much. He's probably too busy counting the money
he got from all the interviews.
 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by John Hal » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>> >No south africans either!

>> Aren't they involved in a one day series in Sri Lanka at the moment?
>Alan donald is in england and hansie isn't doing much at the moment.

Donald was required by Warwickshire, and somehow I don't think having
Cronje play would have been a very good idea! :)
--
John Hall

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                                     Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Rohan Chandr » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>Yep, that's the reason for the last two being absent. Tendulkar was due
>to captain the Asian side, but went down with chickenpox yesterday. A

Now is that convenient or what ? And before someone tells me he has a
doctors certificate, just remember what Anjali (his wife) does for a
living. Chicken pox my foot, he's counting his stash.

Rohan.

 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Phil. G. Felt » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> Hi all,

> Just came on-line to see how the world XI Vs Asia XI was turning out.
> Christ what a***poor line up! 5 english players? Come on and One
> of the hollioke sisters? They must of been hard up for players?
> No south africans either! I see the aussies aren't represented well
> either SG law? When was the last time he played a ODI. How come lara
> wasn't available?

> i see the Asia XI is no great shakes either! no tendulkar, ganguly and
> dravid
> (yeah i know they are busy with county cricket).

> The should change the world best to "to is all we could scrape together"

> Still Nathan Astle looks in good nick!
> Jonathan

Who said they were supposed to be the "world best"?  The name is rest of the
world.  Given that 4 of the Test playing nations are engaged in Test series
at present it's no surprise that certain countries are not represented.  They
seemed to be fairly evenly matched although with the 5 English players the RoW
XI was still strong enough to beat the Asia XI (too many Indians?).

Phil.

 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Rachel Harla » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>Who said they were supposed to be the "world best"?  The name is rest of the
>world.  Given that 4 of the Test playing nations are engaged in Test series
>at present it's no surprise that certain countries are not represented.  They
>seemed to be fairly evenly matched although with the 5 English players the
>RoW
>XI was still strong enough to beat the Asia XI (too many Indians?).

Why was this game held anyway? I seem to remember hearing that it was to raise
money for charity or for Surrey CCC or something. Whatever the reason, how is
it helping the game? They complain that too many meaningless games are played
and then go staging 'Asia fixers XI' (er, not my words) against 'Anybody who
just happens to be in England at the time XI'.

Rachel.

 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by michaelgood.. » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00



Quote:
> Hi all,

<snip moaning>

Did Hussain really get booed when he came in to bat ?  Anyone know why
? (this is according to Michael Henderson - I'd like to think his
theory is wrong)

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Post by James Knigh » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> >Who said they were supposed to be the "world best"?  The name is rest of
the
> >world.  Given that 4 of the Test playing nations are engaged in Test
series
> >at present it's no surprise that certain countries are not represented.
They
> >seemed to be fairly evenly matched although with the 5 English players
the
> >RoW
> >XI was still strong enough to beat the Asia XI (too many Indians?).

> Why was this game held anyway? I seem to remember hearing that it was to
raise
> money for charity or for Surrey CCC or something. Whatever the reason, how
is
> it helping the game? They complain that too many meaningless games are
played
> and then go staging 'Asia fixers XI' (er, not my words) against 'Anybody
who
> just happens to be in England at the time XI'.

> Rachel.

When it comes down to the crunch none of the Rest of the world vs Asia
matches have any real significance except plain enjoyment for the players
and spectators.  The match was aimed at raising money for enhancing the
Oval, which it succeeded in doing.  I suppose it was a bit like a
testimonial, not to a player, but to a part of cricketing history.

I'd expect the batting/bowling/fielding averages to be recorded within the
1st class books, but obviously not at international level.

James Knight

 
 
 

asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by Mike Holma » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:40:00 +0100, "James Knight"

Quote:

>> Why was this game held anyway? I seem to remember hearing that it was to
>raise
>> money for charity or for Surrey CCC or something. Whatever the reason, how
>is
>> it helping the game? They complain that too many meaningless games are
>played
>> and then go staging 'Asia fixers XI' (er, not my words) against 'Anybody
>who
>> just happens to be in England at the time XI'.

>When it comes down to the crunch none of the Rest of the world vs Asia
>matches have any real significance except plain enjoyment for the players
>and spectators.  The match was aimed at raising money for enhancing the
>Oval, which it succeeded in doing.  I suppose it was a bit like a
>testimonial, not to a player, but to a part of cricketing history.

>I'd expect the batting/bowling/fielding averages to be recorded within the
>1st class books, but obviously not at international level.

Why on earth would you expect the stats from an exhibition game to be
recorded in anything remotely official?

As you say, this was a benefit game with no significance other than a
bit of fun, like the WG Grace 150th Birthday match (proceeds to the
Princess *** Fund) a couple of years ago.

Rachel's question about how it helps the game therefore misses the
point by quite a distance. There are benefit games every week
involving celebrity XIs formed from those who happen to be somewhere
in the vicinity and not otherwise engaged - it's just that nobody
usually reports on such exhibitions. It's pretty standard for an
overseas player who gets a benefit from a county to be able to get
most of his current national side to turn up for a 40-over do against
his county side at some club ground or other, for instance.

This one was just organised on a bigger scale than most, with huge
amounts of pre-game publicity and flying a few players in, with the
aim of attracting thousands of paying customers rather than the usual
few hundred who roll up for benefit events.

Why anyone would take such a game seriously or regard it as any kind
of valid test of Asia v ROW is quite beyond me.

Cheers,

Mike
--
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asia XI vs rest of the world XI is a joke

Post by James Knigh » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> >> Why was this game held anyway? I seem to remember hearing that it was
to
> >raise
> >> money for charity or for Surrey CCC or something. Whatever the reason,
how
> >is
> >> it helping the game? They complain that too many meaningless games are
> >played
> >> and then go staging 'Asia fixers XI' (er, not my words) against
'Anybody
> >who
> >> just happens to be in England at the time XI'.

> >When it comes down to the crunch none of the Rest of the world vs Asia
> >matches have any real significance except plain enjoyment for the players
> >and spectators.  The match was aimed at raising money for enhancing the
> >Oval, which it succeeded in doing.  I suppose it was a bit like a
> >testimonial, not to a player, but to a part of cricketing history.

> >I'd expect the batting/bowling/fielding averages to be recorded within
the
> >1st class books, but obviously not at international level.
> Why on earth would you expect the stats from an exhibition game to be
> recorded in anything remotely official?

Aren't they ?  I'd just assumed that some of the worlds best players
competing against each other would be at a far higher level than let's say a
county one day game.

Cheers,

James Knight