Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by sdavmo » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:50:19


He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that is
very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as a lad.
I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when he's
playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is going on
there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games that England
could play in such an appallingly disconnected manner as shown in
ODIs 1 & 2).)

Anyway, in this morning's "The Spin", here's an amusing take on
assembling an XI of "gents of ample proportion". It doesn't have
Boon or Gatting (not really tubby enough), but it's a large guys
team I will be happy to endorse.

[quote]

Adam Parore said last week that the well-proportioned opener Jesse
Ryder was "too fat and is in no fit state to play for New Zealand,
and if I was still in the national side, I wouldn't want him in my
dressing room". Well, the Spin can reveal it is neither so picky nor
so fattist, especially after his unbeaten 79 off 62 balls this
morning. And to prove the point, it has selected an XI of the very
best tubbies.

1. Jesse Ryder - The fact that Ryder has as many chins as first-class
hundreds (five) is neither here nor there. Like Peter Crouch and his
fabled "touch", Ryder has good hands for a big man and was spotted
during the Twenty20 series attempting Superman-style catches on the
boundary. Oh, and he failed to turn up for a game for Ireland against
Surrey shortly after telling the New Zealand selectors that he wasn't
available for an A tour of Australia... because he was going to play
for Ireland instead. Quite simply, the stuff of legend.

2. Mark Cosgrove - It must be extra-tough being a fat cricketer in
Australia, so you can't say Cosgrove hasn't earned the right to
partner Ryder and get involved in a comedy run-out in the first over.
Before he went on to play three ODIs, Cosgrove was suspended by South
Australia for returning from a spell in English club cricket having
gobbled too many kebabs with extra chilli sauce. But he lost five
pounds and in his next 10 innings made 109*, 71, 89, 40, 184, 26,
71*, 0, 74 and 76. It's the kind of spirit this XI needs.

3. Colin Milburn - If the Spin had been more than a twinkle in the
milkman's son's eye when Milburn was strutting his stuff for
Northants and England, it feels sure it would have found a hero for
life. Wisden always called him thinks like "amply proportioned",
which was very generous. He was, by all accounts, a superbly fearless
player until a car injury robbed him of the use of his left eye. As a
Durham lad, he could have pointed the Antipodean openers in the
direction of some decent beer too.

4. Darren Lehmann - Squeezes out WG Grace - if you'll forgive the
unpleasant image - because WG cultivated his gut in the days when you
hardly needed to run anyway. They called him "Boof", which is why
Cosgrove, his spiritual heir at South Australia, was known as "Mini
Boof". Basically, he was a stunning batsman who liked a fag and a
pint and was forever labelled as "the last of a dying breed", which
must be news to his team-mates.

5. Inzamam-ul-Haq - Look, the guy went to great lengths, OK? He told a
Pakistan team-mate to bring him a bat from the dressing-room so that
he could practise his cover-drive on the goon in the crowd at Toronto
who had been heckling him with cries of "aloo" (Urdu for potato)
through a megaphone. That takes dedication, and so did Inzy's
attitude to nets: watch the others get on with it from the comfort of
a wicker chair. A frighteningly good arm makes him a must.

6. Arjuna Ranatunga - Ian Healy denies ever telling Ranatunga that
"you're not allowed a runner for being a fat ****", but, hey, there's
no smoke without fire, especially if Arjuna is manning the barbecue.
But Healy did once suggest that the best way to lure the big man out
of his crease was to "put a Mars Bar on a good length". His
speciality was walking singles that persuaded fielders to hurl the
ball at the stumps in irritation - and concede several overthrows in
the process.

7. Tariq Iqbal - Who he? Well, quite. He's the wicketkeeper who caught
Brian Lara when Kenya humbled West Indies in the 1996 World Cup at
Pune. That moment inspired one of the great understatements from
Wisden: "The collapse became critical when Lara was caught behind by
Tariq Iqbal, whose stout figure and village-standard juggling had
hitherto caused much mirth." In other words, let's all laugh at the
fat man. Alas, a glorious international career lasted just four days.

8. Ramesh Powar - You have to admire his attempts to deflect attention
from his waistline by wearing a pair of Su Pollardesque red-rimmed
shades, but in he comes to bowl his perky off-breaks and belly-flop
over the ball at third man. You can't teach qualities like that.

9. Ian Austin - Our very own Mike Selvey once likened "Bully" Austin
to a stoker on a merchant's steamer, which is good enough for us.
It's easy to laugh at the pre-1999 World Cup predictions which made
Austin favourite to be the competition's leading wicket-taker (he
ended up playing two games and taking three wickets), so the Spin
will do it: ha ha! But his bowling at the death was one of the
reasons Lancashire kept winning one-day trophies in the 1990s, and he
would ensure the team never went short of top-quality pies.

10. Jimmy Ormond - Poor bloke. If ever one picture has ruined a man's
career - and the Spin should know - it's the one of Ormond with his
shirt off in New Zealand during the 2001-02 tour. So he looked like
he enjoyed a vindaloo! What of it? The man can bowl. And if Lehmann
ever runs out of cigarettes, Ormond is the man to save the day.

11. Dwayne Leverock - You'd be in urgent need of a lobotomy if you
left this fella out. At 19 stone, his warm-up routines in the
dressing-room quite literally send tremors through the opposition,
and his slip catch during the World Cup against India remains one of
cricket's greatest pieces of unexpected theatre. And don't forget:
when England played Bermuda in a World Cup warm-up match, he took two
for 32 with his fat left-armers. An ample figure in every sense.

[end quote]
--
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Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by John Hal » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:00:11


Quote:

>Anyway, in this morning's "The Spin", here's an amusing take on
>assembling an XI of "gents of ample proportion". It doesn't have
>Boon or Gatting (not really tubby enough), but it's a large guys
>team I will be happy to endorse.

I think Gatt would be greatly offended by the suggestion that he wasn't
really tubby enough. :) Other obvious omissions that spring to mind are
WG. Billy Murdoch, Warwick Armstrong and Colin Cowdrey.
--
John Hall
            "Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"
            attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp,
            a former director of the Bank of England

 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by Sali » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:20:19


Quote:
> 6. Arjuna Ranatunga - Ian Healy denies ever telling Ranatunga that
> "you're not allowed a runner for being a fat ****", but, hey, there's
> no smoke without fire, especially if Arjuna is manning the barbecue.

Strange. In Healy's autobiography, 'Hands and Heals' he discusses
making a comment along those lines - don't think he called him a fat
*** outright, but said 'take a look at yourself porky - that's why
you're not allowed a runner'.

 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by sdavmo » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:00:10

Quote:



>> Anyway, in this morning's "The Spin", here's an amusing take on
>> assembling an XI of "gents of ample proportion". It doesn't have
>> Boon or Gatting (not really tubby enough), but it's a large guys
>> team I will be happy to endorse.

> I think Gatt would be greatly offended by the suggestion that he
> wasn't really tubby enough. :) Other obvious omissions that spring
>  to mind are WG. Billy Murdoch, Warwick Armstrong and Colin
> Cowdrey.

Craig McMillan's another one. Not fat, but husky and in perpetual
danger of one pizza and six pack too many sending him into the next
category of size. Like Beefy towards the end of his career. Or perhaps
"well built" as I used to claim during my rugby playing days (after
being moved from fullback in my ***s to wing-forward in my
20s to #8 in my 30s.)

Zimbabwean medium-pacer Eddo Brandes is another prime candidate for
the teletubbies squad. Anyone asked point-blank by McGrath "Why are
you so ***ing fat?" should be on the 2nd team short-list.
--
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Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by Karl » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:56:19


Quote:



>>> Anyway, in this morning's "The Spin", here's an amusing take on
>>> assembling an XI of "gents of ample proportion". It doesn't have Boon or
>>> Gatting (not really tubby enough), but it's a large guys team I will be
>>> happy to endorse.

>> I think Gatt would be greatly offended by the suggestion that he wasn't
>> really tubby enough. :) Other obvious omissions that spring
>>  to mind are WG. Billy Murdoch, Warwick Armstrong and Colin Cowdrey.

> Craig McMillan's another one. Not fat, but husky and in perpetual
> danger of one pizza and six pack too many sending him into the next
> category of size. Like Beefy towards the end of his career. Or perhaps
> "well built" as I used to claim during my rugby playing days (after
> being moved from fullback in my ***s to wing-forward in my
> 20s to #8 in my 30s.)

I guessed by some of your posts that you were no longer a spring chicken,
but I didn't think you were old enough to have played rugby back the days of
the 2-3-2 scrum.

Karl

<snip>

 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by sdavmo » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:09:30

Quote:






>>>> Anyway, in this morning's "The Spin", here's an amusing take
>>>> on assembling an XI of "gents of ample proportion". It
>>>> doesn't have Boon or Gatting (not really tubby enough), but
>>>> it's a large guys team I will be happy to endorse.
>>> I think Gatt would be greatly offended by the suggestion that
>>> he wasn't really tubby enough. :) Other obvious omissions that
>>> spring to mind are WG. Billy Murdoch, Warwick Armstrong and
>>> Colin Cowdrey.
>> Craig McMillan's another one. Not fat, but husky and in perpetual
>>  danger of one pizza and six pack too many sending him into the
>> next category of size. Like Beefy towards the end of his career.
>> Or perhaps "well built" as I used to claim during my rugby
>> playing days (after being moved from fullback in my ***s to
>> wing-forward in my 20s to #8 in my 30s.)

> I guessed by some of your posts that you were no longer a spring
> chicken, but I didn't think you were old enough to have played
> rugby back the days of the 2-3-2 scrum.

> Karl

> <snip>

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Technically, my coach called the position "flanker" when I was told I
was too old, too slow, too large to play fullback any more (didn't
effect my kicking though). But the last few years of club play in
SoCal had me playing at #8. At least I still got to play. Until I was
36 when I was loaned to another team that was a man short (Riverside
3rds, when I was playing for Unicorns 3rds out of Fountain Valley).)
On the opening kickoff I went up to catch the ball next to touch and
had one of my erstwhile club mates piledrive into my ribs...before I
caught the ball! The dirty ***er! At the end of that game (15 years
ago or thereabouts) as I wheezed off the pitch lying to my wife about
how I felt OK (like I fooled her for one minute...har har har) I
decided that maybe the time had come to gracefully hobble off stage
left, and leave collision sports to younger and fitter men.

[pause for a moment of wistful reflection]

Sadly cricket is heading the same way, which is a *** because I love
the game more than any other sport I've ever played or watched. So I
tell all the young blokes to enjoy it while they can. No matter how
good you are, how fit you may be, how buff, how skilfull, how
competitive...your body will eventually break-down and your reflexes
betray you. Which is certainly something that Gilchrist must have seen
as he looked into the mirror recently and asked that guy what he
thought. As Jagger so eloquently put it: "Time waits for no one, no
favours has he. Time waits for no one, and he won't wait for me."

I'm working with getting a new team going in the LA friendly league
(as opposed to the higher standard of play but rather less friendly
SCCA). We start play in about 6 weeks. I've noticed incredible
stiffness in my joints as I've been practicing and going to the gym.
Especially in my knees, which have been problematic for some time (at
least the last 6 years), which has got in the way of my wife and I
ballroom dancing -- which is a shame, since I was a decent social
dancer and my wife was a pretty good competitive dancer (think any
female celebrity eliminated in the late-middle of the pack of any
season of "Dancing With The Stars/Strictly Come Dancing"). It may just
be that in the next couple of years in order to continue to dance
('cos I know which side my bread is buttered) my involvement with
local cricket will come down to an increase in umpiring and once in
blue moon playing...except for the wild slogging "family cricket" that
we do with heavy tennis balls, kids from 6 to 60, and a couple of
fielding-mad dogs, on holidays 3-5 times a year.

I think I'll be OK with calling it a day, if I can just manage one
more passably good innings (40 would be about right with a few 4s and
one 6,and one decent cover drive) and one more really devious spell of
leg-spin against proper cricketers half my age. Then I can look at the
unpleasant reality of being a worn-out 50 year old and accept that it
really is over and it's time to watch it on TV (or at least on the
next available internet feed).

Anyway, regardless of all that, I wouldn't change anything -- unless
Dr. Who and the Tardis come by and he tells me to bring my whites 'cos
England's a man short and they desperately need me to bat at 11. :-)
My guitar work and keyboard playing is still only marginally effected
by carpal tunnel and perpetual joint stiffness. (One of those other
wonderful surprises that seem so far way when young.) The advantage of
not being that good to begin with is that there's less of a painful
coming back to earth as the skills fade. It will be a while yet before
I have to hang those boots up. When I do it will probably be because
my two sons are coming on like gangbusters and it will be time to let
them have the stage, and all my recording equipment!
--
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Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by shineythin » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:12:56


Quote:
> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that is
> very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as a lad.
> I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when he's
> playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is going on
> there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games that England
> could play in such an appallingly disconnected manner as shown in
> ODIs 1 & 2).)

On the evidence of yesterday, I'd be more worried about whether Broad
Jr (who, incidentally, looks about 15, i.e., the same age as Bobs) is
the second coming of Andre Adams. Rarely can so much rubbish have been
bowled in such a short space of time by one so young.
 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by Andrew Dunfor » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:45:20


Quote:

>> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that is
>> very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as a lad.
>> I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when he's
>> playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is going on
>> there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games that England
>> could play in such an appallingly disconnected manner as shown in
>> ODIs 1 & 2).)

> On the evidence of yesterday, I'd be more worried about whether Broad
> Jr (who, incidentally, looks about 15, i.e., the same age as Bobs) is
> the second coming of Andre Adams. Rarely can so much rubbish have been
> bowled in such a short space of time by one so young.

My seven year old took one look at Broad and announced: "he looks like a
doll".

I take it there are no tears in your household at the departure of Andre
Adams to the ICL?

Andrew

 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by kenhig.. » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:46:34


Quote:
> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that is
> very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as a lad.
> I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when he's
> playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is going on
> there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games that England
> could play in such an appallingly disconnected manner as shown in
> ODIs 1 & 2).)

> Anyway, in this morning's "The Spin", here's an amusing take on
> assembling an XI of "gents of ample proportion". It doesn't have
> Boon or Gatting (not really tubby enough), but it's a large guys
> team I will be happy to endorse.

> [quote]

> Adam Parore said last week that the well-proportioned opener Jesse
> Ryder was "too fat and is in no fit state to play for New Zealand,
> and if I was still in the national side, I wouldn't want him in my
> dressing room". Well, the Spin can reveal it is neither so picky nor
> so fattist, especially after his unbeaten 79 off 62 balls this
> morning. And to prove the point, it has selected an XI of the very
> best tubbies.

> 1. Jesse Ryder - The fact that Ryder has as many chins as first-class
> hundreds (five) is neither here nor there. Like Peter Crouch and his
> fabled "touch", Ryder has good hands for a big man and was spotted
> during the Twenty20 series attempting Superman-style catches on the
> boundary. Oh, and he failed to turn up for a game for Ireland against
> Surrey shortly after telling the New Zealand selectors that he wasn't
> available for an A tour of Australia... because he was going to play
> for Ireland instead. Quite simply, the stuff of legend.

> 2. Mark Cosgrove - It must be extra-tough being a fat cricketer in
> Australia, so you can't say Cosgrove hasn't earned the right to
> partner Ryder and get involved in a comedy run-out in the first over.
> Before he went on to play three ODIs, Cosgrove was suspended by South
> Australia for returning from a spell in English club cricket having
> gobbled too many kebabs with extra chilli sauce. But he lost five
> pounds and in his next 10 innings made 109*, 71, 89, 40, 184, 26,
> 71*, 0, 74 and 76. It's the kind of spirit this XI needs.

> 3. Colin Milburn - If the Spin had been more than a twinkle in the
> milkman's son's eye when Milburn was strutting his stuff for
> Northants and England, it feels sure it would have found a hero for
> life. Wisden always called him thinks like "amply proportioned",
> which was very generous. He was, by all accounts, a superbly fearless
> player until a car injury robbed him of the use of his left eye. As a
> Durham lad, he could have pointed the Antipodean openers in the
> direction of some decent beer too.

I hope he has more fortune than 'Ollie'.

A one off, someone who was almost always 'shit or bust', larger than
life, capable of turning a match on its head, probably too fond of a
drink and a good time, though that wasn't so unusual for the times.
Sad how he ended up

Higgs

 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by dodo » Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:45:31


Quote:
> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that is
> very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as a lad.
> I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when he's
> playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is going on
> there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games that England
> could play in such an appallingly disconnected manner as shown in
> ODIs 1 & 2).)

> Anyway, in this morning's "The Spin", here's an amusing take on
> assembling an XI of "gents of ample proportion". It doesn't have
> Boon or Gatting (not really tubby enough), but it's a large guys
> team I will be happy to endorse.

> [quote]

> Adam Parore said last week that the well-proportioned opener Jesse
> Ryder was "too fat and is in no fit state to play for New Zealand,
> and if I was still in the national side, I wouldn't want him in my
> dressing room". Well, the Spin can reveal it is neither so picky nor
> so fattist, especially after his unbeaten 79 off 62 balls this
> morning. And to prove the point, it has selected an XI of the very
> best tubbies.

> 1. Jesse Ryder - The fact that Ryder has as many chins as first-class
> hundreds (five) is neither here nor there. Like Peter Crouch and his
> fabled "touch", Ryder has good hands for a big man and was spotted
> during the Twenty20 series attempting Superman-style catches on the
> boundary. Oh, and he failed to turn up for a game for Ireland against
> Surrey shortly after telling the New Zealand selectors that he wasn't
> available for an A tour of Australia... because he was going to play
> for Ireland instead. Quite simply, the stuff of legend.

> 2. Mark Cosgrove - It must be extra-tough being a fat cricketer in
> Australia, so you can't say Cosgrove hasn't earned the right to
> partner Ryder and get involved in a comedy run-out in the first over.
> Before he went on to play three ODIs, Cosgrove was suspended by South
> Australia for returning from a spell in English club cricket having
> gobbled too many kebabs with extra chilli sauce. But he lost five
> pounds and in his next 10 innings made 109*, 71, 89, 40, 184, 26,
> 71*, 0, 74 and 76. It's the kind of spirit this XI needs.

> 3. Colin Milburn - If the Spin had been more than a twinkle in the
> milkman's son's eye when Milburn was strutting his stuff for
> Northants and England, it feels sure it would have found a hero for
> life. Wisden always called him thinks like "amply proportioned",
> which was very generous. He was, by all accounts, a superbly fearless
> player until a car injury robbed him of the use of his left eye. As a
> Durham lad, he could have pointed the Antipodean openers in the
> direction of some decent beer too.

> 4. Darren Lehmann - Squeezes out WG Grace - if you'll forgive the
> unpleasant image - because WG cultivated his gut in the days when you
> hardly needed to run anyway. They called him "Boof", which is why
> Cosgrove, his spiritual heir at South Australia, was known as "Mini
> Boof". Basically, he was a stunning batsman who liked a fag and a
> pint and was forever labelled as "the last of a dying breed", which
> must be news to his team-mates.

> 5. Inzamam-ul-Haq - Look, the guy went to great lengths, OK? He told a
> Pakistan team-mate to bring him a bat from the dressing-room so that
> he could practise his cover-drive on the goon in the crowd at Toronto
> who had been heckling him with cries of "aloo" (Urdu for potato)
> through a megaphone. That takes dedication, and so did Inzy's
> attitude to nets: watch the others get on with it from the comfort of
> a wicker chair. A frighteningly good arm makes him a must.

> 6. Arjuna Ranatunga - Ian Healy denies ever telling Ranatunga that
> "you're not allowed a runner for being a fat ****", but, hey, there's
> no smoke without fire, especially if Arjuna is manning the barbecue.
> But Healy did once suggest that the best way to lure the big man out
> of his crease was to "put a Mars Bar on a good length". His
> speciality was walking singles that persuaded fielders to hurl the
> ball at the stumps in irritation - and concede several overthrows in
> the process.

> 7. Tariq Iqbal - Who he? Well, quite. He's the wicketkeeper who caught
> Brian Lara when Kenya humbled West Indies in the 1996 World Cup at
> Pune. That moment inspired one of the great understatements from
> Wisden: "The collapse became critical when Lara was caught behind by
> Tariq Iqbal, whose stout figure and village-standard juggling had
> hitherto caused much mirth." In other words, let's all laugh at the
> fat man. Alas, a glorious international career lasted just four days.

> 8. Ramesh Powar - You have to admire his attempts to deflect attention
> from his waistline by wearing a pair of Su Pollardesque red-rimmed
> shades, but in he comes to bowl his perky off-breaks and belly-flop
> over the ball at third man. You can't teach qualities like that.

> 9. Ian Austin - Our very own Mike Selvey once likened "Bully" Austin
> to a stoker on a merchant's steamer, which is good enough for us.
> It's easy to laugh at the pre-1999 World Cup predictions which made
> Austin favourite to be the competition's leading wicket-taker (he
> ended up playing two games and taking three wickets), so the Spin
> will do it: ha ha! But his bowling at the death was one of the
> reasons Lancashire kept winning one-day trophies in the 1990s, and he
> would ensure the team never went short of top-quality pies.

> 10. Jimmy Ormond - Poor bloke. If ever one picture has ruined a man's
> career - and the Spin should know - it's the one of Ormond with his
> shirt off in New Zealand during the 2001-02 tour. So he looked like
> he enjoyed a vindaloo! What of it? The man can bowl. And if Lehmann
> ever runs out of cigarettes, Ormond is the man to save the day.

> 11. Dwayne Leverock - You'd be in urgent need of a lobotomy if you
> left this fella out. At 19 stone, his warm-up routines in the
> dressing-room quite literally send tremors through the opposition,
> and his slip catch during the World Cup against India remains one of
> cricket's greatest pieces of unexpected theatre. And don't forget:
> when England played Bermuda in a World Cup warm-up match, he took two
> for 32 with his fat left-armers. An ample figure in every sense.

> [end quote]

Another big guy from the associate countries was Sanjay Thuraisingham
of Canada, who took a few wickets in the '99 (?) and '03 world cups.
Your pace attack in any case is a bit weak.
 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by sdavmo » Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:18:42

Quote:


>> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that
>> is very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as
>> a lad. I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when
>> he's playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is
>> going on there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games
>> that England could play in such an appallingly disconnected
>> manner as shown in ODIs 1 & 2).)

> On the evidence of yesterday, I'd be more worried about whether
> Broad Jr (who, incidentally, looks about 15, i.e., the same age as
> Bobs) is the second coming of Andre Adams. Rarely can so much
> rubbish have been bowled in such a short space of time by one so
> young.

He does look young. In his defense he wasn't alone in getting carved
up in that sorry excuse for a bowling effort. I hope all the bowlers
got an explosive earful from Moores and their position coach (Gibson
is it). I've never seen Andre Adams bowl but I'll take it that he
has a bit of a rep as a pie merchant.
--
Cheers,
SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
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Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by sdavmo » Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:38:57

Quote:


>> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that
>> is very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as
>> a lad. I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when
>> he's playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is
>> going on there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games
>> that England could play in such an appallingly disconnected
>> manner as shown in ODIs 1 & 2).)

>> Anyway, in this morning's "The Spin", here's an amusing take on
>> assembling an XI of "gents of ample proportion". It doesn't have
>> Boon or Gatting (not really tubby enough), but it's a large guys
>> team I will be happy to endorse.

>> [quote]

>> Adam Parore said last week that the well-proportioned opener
>> Jesse Ryder was "too fat and is in no fit state to play for New
>> Zealand, and if I was still in the national side, I wouldn't want
>> him in my dressing room". Well, the Spin can reveal it is neither
>> so picky nor so fattist, especially after his unbeaten 79 off 62
>> balls this morning. And to prove the point, it has selected an XI
>> of the very best tubbies.

>> 1. Jesse Ryder - The fact that Ryder has as many chins as
>> first-class hundreds (five) is neither here nor there. Like Peter
>> Crouch and his fabled "touch", Ryder has good hands for a big man
>> and was spotted during the Twenty20 series attempting
>> Superman-style catches on the boundary. Oh, and he failed to turn
>> up for a game for Ireland against Surrey shortly after telling
>> the New Zealand selectors that he wasn't available for an A tour
>> of Australia... because he was going to play for Ireland instead.
>> Quite simply, the stuff of legend.

>> 2. Mark Cosgrove - It must be extra-tough being a fat cricketer
>> in Australia, so you can't say Cosgrove hasn't earned the right
>> to partner Ryder and get involved in a comedy run-out in the
>> first over. Before he went on to play three ODIs, Cosgrove was
>> suspended by South Australia for returning from a spell in
>> English club cricket having gobbled too many kebabs with extra
>> chilli sauce. But he lost five pounds and in his next 10 innings
>> made 109*, 71, 89, 40, 184, 26, 71*, 0, 74 and 76. It's the kind
>> of spirit this XI needs.

>> 3. Colin Milburn - If the Spin had been more than a twinkle in
>> the milkman's son's eye when Milburn was strutting his stuff for
>> Northants and England, it feels sure it would have found a hero
>> for life. Wisden always called him thinks like "amply
>> proportioned", which was very generous. He was, by all accounts,
>> a superbly fearless player until a car injury robbed him of the
>> use of his left eye. As a Durham lad, he could have pointed the
>> Antipodean openers in the direction of some decent beer too.

> I hope he has more fortune than 'Ollie'.

Indeed.

Quote:
> A one off, someone who was almost always 'shit or bust', larger
> than life, capable of turning a match on its head, probably too
> fond of a drink and a good time, though that wasn't so unusual for
> the times. Sad how he ended up

> Higgs

Yes it is. I read his autobiography when I was in boarding school,
right around the time he was attempting a comeback. A very good lad
who got a seriously rotten deal losing an eye. Had it been the other
eye he might have had a reasonable chance at that comeback. I liked
the fact that as swashbuckling as his batting was (very "West Indian"
I would have called it back then), he also had excellent technique and
was very capable defensively, if that was what was needed. Can you
imagine for a minute had he not had his accident (at age 28), and he
lived up to his promise, what a difference he might have made to the
character of England's play in the 70s? And (as his Wisden obituary
ponders) what if he had still been in the picture when Botham was
breaking into the England side? That would have a sight to behold.

The Wikipedia page is fairly comprehensive and accurate TTBOMK.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Milburn>

The cricinfo page contains the comprehensive Wisden obituary:
<http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/17018.html>
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Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by shineythin » Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:50:45


Quote:



> >> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that is
> >> very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as a lad.
> >> I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when he's
> >> playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is going on
> >> there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games that England
> >> could play in such an appallingly disconnected manner as shown in
> >> ODIs 1 & 2).)

> > On the evidence of yesterday, I'd be more worried about whether Broad
> > Jr (who, incidentally, looks about 15, i.e., the same age as Bobs) is
> > the second coming of Andre Adams. Rarely can so much rubbish have been
> > bowled in such a short space of time by one so young.

> My seven year old took one look at Broad and announced: "he looks like a
> doll".

> I take it there are no tears in your household at the departure of Andre
> Adams to the ICL?

The cigars and champagne have been brought out...
 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by shineythin » Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:54:02


Quote:


> >> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that
> >> is very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as
> >> a lad. I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when
> >> he's playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is
> >> going on there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games
> >> that England could play in such an appallingly disconnected
> >> manner as shown in ODIs 1 & 2).)

> > On the evidence of yesterday, I'd be more worried about whether
> > Broad Jr (who, incidentally, looks about 15, i.e., the same age as
> > Bobs) is the second coming of Andre Adams. Rarely can so much
> > rubbish have been bowled in such a short space of time by one so
> > young.

> He does look young. In his defense he wasn't alone in getting carved
> up in that sorry excuse for a bowling effort. I hope all the bowlers
> got an explosive earful from Moores and their position coach (Gibson
> is it). I've never seen Andre Adams bowl but I'll take it that he
> has a bit of a rep as a pie merchant.
> --

You take it correctly. Deliveries that bounce twice on the way to the
batsman, others that go over the batsman's head on the full. Wondrous
stuff...
 
 
 

Is Jesse Ryder the 2nd coming of Colin Milburn?

Post by sdavmo » Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:30:48

Quote:




>>>> He has a very uncomplicated aggressive approach to batting that
>>>> is very entertaining, that reminds me a lot of seeing Milburn as
>>>> a lad. I hope he can continue thrashing the ball every where when
>>>> he's playing against someone other than England. (And WTF is
>>>> going on there? I'd never have believed after the 20/20 games
>>>> that England could play in such an appallingly disconnected
>>>> manner as shown in ODIs 1 & 2).)
>>> On the evidence of yesterday, I'd be more worried about whether
>>> Broad Jr (who, incidentally, looks about 15, i.e., the same age as
>>> Bobs) is the second coming of Andre Adams. Rarely can so much
>>> rubbish have been bowled in such a short space of time by one so
>>> young.
>> He does look young. In his defense he wasn't alone in getting carved
>> up in that sorry excuse for a bowling effort. I hope all the bowlers
>> got an explosive earful from Moores and their position coach (Gibson
>> is it). I've never seen Andre Adams bowl but I'll take it that he
>> has a bit of a rep as a pie merchant.
>> --
> You take it correctly. Deliveries that bounce twice on the way to the
> batsman, others that go over the batsman's head on the full. Wondrous
> stuff...

Sounds just about right for my new club! :-)
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