Gatting, Hick do a Shastri...

Gatting, Hick do a Shastri...

Post by Sudhama Gopal » Tue, 22 Jun 1993 22:32:27


Have Gatting and Hick earned a repreive by scoring fifties in the second
inning?? If so then I would definitely compare it with Vengsarkar of the
seventies and Shastri of the mid and late eighties - players who performed
only when their place was in question. In fairness to Gatting though, he did
not have a miserable tour of India - so also Hick. England's problem is that
the bowlers are doing such a terrible job that an average job by the batsmen
will definitely ensure a defeat. Consistent stellar performances are the need
of the hour as far as English batsmen go - to be honest, if your bowlers give
the first four batsmen of the opposing side the luxury of (almost) reaching
three figures, it becomes hard to conceive what changes in the batting lineup
would be adequate to match that effort.
On a slightly unrelated note, I find it most amazing how some English batsmen
can be so good against pace and so miserably poor against spin (e.g. Lamb
and Smith). One would have thought that the English county championship with
all it's talent from overseas players would bring up batsmen who would be
equally at ease with pace and spin.
Finally, is this goodbye for Chris Lewis - if I'm not mistaken his match
performance would be 2 wickets and a pair. However beat old Beefy might be
today, I'd choose him over Lewis - just for a look see if not anything.

Sudhama

 
 
 

Gatting, Hick do a Shastri...

Post by Balakrishnan Gopalakrishn » Tue, 22 Jun 1993 18:53:12

|> Have Gatting and Hick earned a repreive by scoring fifties in the second
|> inning?? If so then I would definitely compare it with Vengsarkar of the
|> seventies and Shastri of the mid and late eighties - players who performed
|> only when their place was in question.

        Shastri had perfected this art! It was so ***y irritating. Just when
the selectors would finally realize that he wasn't doing anything useful, he
would score a hundred or take a few wickets and get to play another 4-5 tests!
-Balky

 
 
 

Gatting, Hick do a Shastri...

Post by Sunil Tao » Wed, 23 Jun 1993 04:53:22


|>

|> |> Have Gatting and Hick earned a repreive by scoring fifties in the second
|> |> inning?? If so then I would definitely compare it with Vengsarkar of the
|> |> seventies and Shastri of the mid and late eighties - players who performed
|> |> only when their place was in question.
|>
|>
|>   Shastri had perfected this art! It was so ***y irritating. Just when
|> the selectors would finally realize that he wasn't doing anything useful, he
|> would score a hundred or take a few wickets and get to play another 4-5 tests!
|> -Balky

I agree. But it is only true about Shastri. I don't think Vengsarkar was that
sort of guy. All I can say is Vengy was very unlucky that few recognize his
contributions to Indian middle order batting.

-Sunil

 
 
 

Gatting, Hick do a Shastri...

Post by Sudhama Gopal » Wed, 23 Jun 1993 10:45:34

Quote:


>|>

>|> |> Have Gatting and Hick earned a repreive by scoring fifties in the second
>|> |> inning?? If so then I would definitely compare it with Vengsarkar of the
>|> |> seventies and Shastri of the mid and late eighties - players who performed
>|> |> only when their place was in question.
>|>
>|>
>|>       Shastri had perfected this art! It was so ***y irritating. Just when
>|> the selectors would finally realize that he wasn't doing anything useful, he
>|> would score a hundred or take a few wickets and get to play another 4-5 tests!
>|> -Balky

>I agree. But it is only true about Shastri. I don't think Vengsarkar was that
>sort of guy. All I can say is Vengy was very unlucky that few recognize his
>contributions to Indian middle order batting.

>-Sunil

 Well, I said Vengsarkar of the seventies. He should have been dropped right
after the Australia - NZ tour of 1980-81 where he was an abject failure. Till
then he had done little to warrant an assured place in the side. The rest, of
course, is history. Vengsarkar, BTW, is my favourite batsman - but I must
admit he blossomed late in his career. Also, he was a shaky starter. If only
the jokers at BCCI had'nt suspended him for six months after the disastrous
WI tour.........

Sudhama

 
 
 

Gatting, Hick do a Shastri...

Post by Sunil Tao » Thu, 24 Jun 1993 06:21:57

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|> >|>
|> >|>         Shastri had perfected this art! It was so ***y irritating. Just when
|> >|> the selectors would finally realize that he wasn't doing anything useful, he
|> >|> would score a hundred or take a few wickets and get to play another 4-5 tests!
|> >|> -Balky
|> >
|> >I agree. But it is only true about Shastri. I don't think Vengsarkar was that
|> >sort of guy. All I can say is Vengy was very unlucky that few recognize his
|> >contributions to Indian middle order batting.
|> >
|> >-Sunil
|>
|>  Well, I said Vengsarkar of the seventies. He should have been dropped right
|> after the Australia - NZ tour of 1980-81 where he was an abject failure. Till
|> then he had done little to warrant an assured place in the side. The rest, of
|> course, is history. Vengsarkar, BTW, is my favourite batsman - but I must
|> admit he blossomed late in his career. Also, he was a shaky starter. If only
                                                                        ^^^^^^^^
|> the jokers at BCCI had'nt suspended him for six months after the disastrous
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> WI tour.........
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes you are absoluely right. Had those jokers not acted foolishly, Vengy could

have left the Indain cricket scene much more refspectfully.

Sunil.

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|> Sudhama
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